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Allomantic Tin / Feruchemical Copper Twinborn because those are my favorite powers. I might have chosen Forgery if it had been option because it is my favorite system but I don't think I would be very good at it. Let's just say I am artistically dis-inclined...

Thank you. Part of me is, admittedly, resistant to the idea that the stained-glass window will, given enough time, merge back into the pristine window. Though then the sane, logical majority chimes in with "It's a magic window" so I am definitely becoming open to the idea. It would probably be worth asking Brandon the following question: If Sazed hold onto Harmony for long enough will Ruin and Preservation merge to a point where they lose their distinctiveness and can no longer be separated no matter what?

I wanted to keep my metaphor as non-magical as I could so I was only thinking about more mundane methods. Of course now I feel kind of dense for not thinking of something as obvious as that... My bad. That said I don't think Ruin and Preservation have been merged to such an extent as to make that necessary. If their very atoms have mixed then they would be one piece of glass, not two. For this theory I've been operating under the assumption that the intents of the shards did not exist until during/after the Shattering. The original window would not have been a stained-glass one, it would be like the Wide Window from A Series of Unfortunate Events. Clear and continuous, i.e. it is not made up of smaller pieces of glass. The color, which represents the intents, only developed after the window was broken. A reforming of the Shards would create a window as beautiful as the previous just not the same kind of window. Hopefully that answers your question, if not let me know and I will try to explain better.

Yes, in some instances he has. But it is not exactly fair to expect it of him. I would say a book a year is already above the industry average and I don't feel it is right to expect more of him. That way it is a pleasant surprise when we get more books.

Oh wow, thanks everyone for responding! The only argument against your counter-proposal that I can think of at the moment deals with the semantics of the problem. If the two pieces of glass melt and merge then, in my opinion, they lose their distinctiveness. There isn't a definitive line where one would end and the other begin. Also I also can't see how they could be separated and become the exact same as were before, granted my knowledge of glasswork is limited, but it just doesn't seem possible to me. Thank you for the argument, I will try to think of a better argument. Oh most definitely. I also think having at least half a planet's worth of people aware of his existence helped. However Sazed's actions were probably the deciding factor. This is all plausible, but it runs into the problem I had when writing this theory. We simply don't know very much about the nature of Adonalsium and that makes it incredibly difficult to theorize about. I had to make certain assumptions, such as the intents of the Shards only appearing after the Shattering, but I tried not to not be very specific about what Adonalsium was like. I almost didn't post this theory because of that... I'm glad that you liked it. Like I said above I will try to think of a good rebuttal for his counter-proposal. Thanks for the upvote!

So a prevailing belief at the moment is that Hoid is endeavoring to reform Adonalsium. With the recent revelation about the nature of Harmony, which I will be discussing further down, I no longer believe that reforming Adonalsium is possible. At least not in the way we are thinking. Hoid muses about taking things apart and putting them back together again when talking to Dalinar in Way of Kings. This is the quote a lot of people have been thinking supports the idea that Hoid is trying to put Adonalsium together again. The line “into something like them—yet wholly unlike them at the same time” has led some people, and now myself, to question whether reuniting all of the Shards would recreate Adonalsium. In this theory I will be arguing the negative, bringing the Shards together will not remake Adonalsium. (in a potentially roundabout way that may make absolutely no sense) For the purposes of this thread I will be referring to Adonalsium as if it was a sheet of glass as a nod to the Shardic Lens theory. So, originally there was an unbroken pane of glass through which the power of creation shone. Then for some reason it shattered, creating sixteen Shards. Each has a different intent that filters the light that shines through them, kind of like a distinct color. At the tail end of AMA Brandon answered this question: This quote has blown the minds of a fair number of people, including mine. Before I get to the point I am making, I want to add another quote that shows that even though Harmony is the Shard, Ruin and Preservation still exist. It is my opinion that Ruin and Preservation have become cognitively linked, they have begun to see themselves as part of a greater whole, Harmony. Like Shai describes in the following quote. So what’s my point? The two pieces of glass that are Ruin and Preservation haven’t come together and made a larger piece of glass. They’ve just been soldered together. If that is true for these two Shards I can’t see any reason why having all sixteen would make any difference. Rather than making the pristine sheet of glass that was Adonalsium, they would instead make a stained-glass window. Hopefully this makes since to someone other than myself. Quotes in order of appearance -Way of Kings: Chapter 54 -2013 Reddit AMA -Nov 21 2011 Alloy of Law Signing Report - Lord Juss -The Emperor's Soul: Day Twelve Edit: This section is based in part on Chaos’ Devotion, Dominion, and Convergence Theory. In his theory Chaos describes the concept of “fragments” of shards and differentiates them from Splinters. In regards to my stained-glass metaphor they would both be pieces of glass from their respective Shard but are differentiated by their clarity. Splinters would have the same clarity as the parent Shard while fragments would have be more like frosted glass, transmitting the light in a more diffuse manner. What makes one frosted while the other is clear you’re asking? In my opinion it has to do with the relative strength, for lack of a better term, of their cognitive aspect. The “strength” of the cognitive aspect has to do with its ability to think for itself, a person has a stronger cognitive aspect than a rock for example. But wait! Splinters aren’t sentient. No they are not, but all of the splinters we have seen are attached to something that does have a strong cognitive aspect (i.e. the Returned and the Seons). A strong cognitive aspect helps to focus, and control, the light that is coming through the glass. It is important to remember though that these fragments still have a cognitive aspect to them, not a very strong one, but it is there and helping with the “convergence,” as Chaos put it, of the two shards. In my opinion the history, or rather memories, of an object are a part of its cognitive aspect (supported by the fact that feruchemical copper is a cognitive metal). These fragments can remember being part of something larger and want to be a part of it again (like the wall Shai forged to be painted wanted to be beautiful). It actually has memories of being a part of two things, its respective shard and adonalsium. So if a fragment of Devotion met up with a fragment of Dominion it would be like “You’re different from me but we used to be together so let’s hang out.” It is somewhat similar to Ruin and Preservation but in their case they have Sazed and the people of Scadrial to help for a cognitive leading for the pieces of glass.

I'm actually in the process of writing a theory about this exact question.

I didn't mention anything about Vin's mother being spiked.

Actually she did. It was during Well of Ascension. Breeze was soothing Elend to make him more confident and she used duralumin enhanced bronze to detect what emotions specifically he was soothing. As for the question at hand, I think it is either hemalurgic constructs can instinctively detect other hemalurgic constructs or it is a part of the Kandra contract to reveal themselves to inquisitors.

I wonder if that's actually possible... Allomantic/Feruchemical genes are part of the spiritual DNA/spiritweb and so doesn't exist in the physical realm, i.e. you can't just take a sample from a cheek swab. It sounds a lot like hemalurgy. (Actually it sounds exactly like hemalurgy... woohoo new metaphor!)

I wonder if there will ever be any more "full feruchemists" at some point in the future. Maybe if someone does a breeding program like the one Wayne's uncle is doing for Mistborn. It would be a shame if they never made an appearance again since Mistborn are coming back (or at least I think they are... I remember reading somewhere the modern trilogy was going to involve a Mistborn serial killer). Hopefully if they do come back Brandon will come up with another name.

I would probably date Shallan. Though If Jasnah where Shallan's age I would totally go for her...

The first time I heard of Brandon was when it was announced that he would be finishing the Wheel of Time. I think my first reaction was something to the effect of "WHAT BLASHPEMY IS THIS?" I did some research on him (i.e. I went to his wikipedia page, and the one for the Mistborn series) and thought "Okay... These mistborn magics sound weird. Like really metal?" But then Gathering Storm came out and it was good so I figured I should read some of his other works. I picked up Mistborn (even though I had already spoiled myself on everything) because the title "Elantris" sounded funny to me and I didn't like the cover of Warbreaker (I still don't actually. I like the content. The cover? Not so much...). And then Borders went out of business and I got Way of Kings for cheap. After I read that I realized I was addicted to his work.

Q. How can Vin pierce Copperclouds/ detect the Well of Ascension? A. Vin's earring is a hemalurgic spike granting allomantic bronze. It was created by Vin's mother, who was schizophrenic and corrupted by Ruin, who used earring to kill Vin's younger sister, a seeker. The ability to pierce Copperclouds, and presumably detect the Well of Ascension, is a matter of strength and with the hemalurgic spike Vin has twice the strength in Bronze. Source: Word of Brandon, Coppermind Articles on Vin and Vin's earring Canonicity: Brandon-Confirmed

During the time of the Final Empire Ferrings did not exist. It was only after when the genes for feruchemy and allomancy mixed that feruchemy "split-up." Currently there isn't a separate name for someone who can use all the feruchemical powers. It is probably because for the longest time you either had all the powers or none. There was no need to come up with a name for something that didn't exist. Of course now that leaves us with a lexical gap.

A Nicrosil/Duralumin enhanced bendalloy bubble wouldn't stop time. Except for obvious exceptions the Cosmere has the same laws of physics as ours does and stopping time simply isn't possible. You can however, slow time to such an extent that it is virtually identical to stopped time through use of the enhancement metals. Its like exponential decay, it never quite reaches zero.

Winning would be nice

The spiritual aspect of a Shard consists of the power that isn't currently bound in physical form, which is the bulk of it if I understand correctly. The cognitive aspect would be Leras/Ati/Vin, the mind controlling the power. I do not believe they can see/hear everywhere all the time, they can only focus on one area at a time, but that place can be anywhere.

Is that what it said? I thought the reason Vin could attack/kill him was because she was still new to the power and so she hadn't been molded to the Intent yet.

In my opinion the mists, well, and metal represent his spiritual, cognitive, and physical aspects in a symbolic way but since they all exist in the Physical Realm they are all actually part of his physical aspect. The liquid was part of Preservation's power, not his consciousness and served as the key to the lock.

This is where it gets tricky, yes I meant the consciousnesses of the shards are killed but Brandon doesn't not differentiate a Shard and the consciousness holding it. Also the key word there is "originally," they aren't normal men anymore so different rules apply. If I remember correctly Alendi's friend did die but I don't have my books with me so I can't check that. Also I think the deaths from the mistsickness were a side effect of what Preservation did and not from any intervention from Ruin so I don't think the Preservation can harm but not kill idea is right.

I think it is a matter of degree the benefit to the intent has to outweigh the stuff that counters it. Killing one person is one thing, killing not one but two shards is another. I don't know if the latter is "cheap" enough to cost less than the benefit to the world.

I believe it was established that Ruin can build something up (which goes against his Intent) if it led to the destruction of something greater so I think Preservation could do the same kind of thing. He was able to "destroy" Elend (to a certain extent) because he believed it would force Vin to preserve Ruin's prison by saving him. Preserving the entire species is more important than a single person.

The increased allomantic power is just a side-effect of consuming the concentrated essence of Preservation. Actually burning the lerasium has a different effect. Thank you this is what I was trying to say in the first post.

I don't think Shallan and Kaladin are going to be a "thing" (I like the idea of Shallan/Renarin) though they might eventually become friends. I also think that she will find out about Syl when she does a drawing of Kaladin. Syl will show up like the symbolspren do.