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I know that little yellow spren being voidspren is likely and whatnot, but I don't see it being bound to a Listener or anything. We know from their songs that the Listeners are too close to the CR to be of much use to spren: You talk about voidspren bonding Listeners to give them forms like Stormform, and we hear nothing of spren accompanying them like this. For a spren to gain as much consciousness as this li'l lady has in the PR, something else has to be going on in my opinion. Unless there's voidspren for changing forms and voidspren for becoming evil KR, for which I don't remember seeing any allusions. I think something else is giving her her strong physical connection.
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Mraize: "Your brother was killed by a very capable spearman out in a border dispute some years ago. A spearman so capable, his men called him…" stormblessed"." *cue iceberg hole-ripping sounds* Rip in parshendi, Shaladin.
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Except that, Edgedancer spoilers, Just sayin'
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Easy: sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
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Analyzing the 12th stanza of the listener Song of Histories
Garglemesh replied to Farnsworth's topic in Stormlight Archive
My understanding of phase changes is that when things go from gas to solid, heat must leave the system and thus the blade would be hot, if anything. That's why when you spray any pressurized liquid, it cools things down as it vaporizes. The phase change requires energy (in this second case) and pulls it from its surroundings, making them colder and causing condensation. So either something is off or he's fallen for one of the classic blunders. -
Also, are we catching Ivory just as he is about to coalesce into a sword, or what? He's white and fuzzy in the middle, both things that are very un-sprenblade from what we've seen. I wonder how much artistic license the artist is allowed to take on these.
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I think there's some more to add to this since new information has been brought about with Edgedancer, spoilers below: Not sure where else to put this, or if it's been mentioned before, but there it is.
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[Spoilers: The Thrill] Dalinar flashbacks
Garglemesh replied to emailanimal's topic in Stormlight Archive
Where's this business about music spren and Ryshadium coming from? Also, what's this about seeing red and Odium? I've read the archer scene and heard the dinner scene but I'm not sure there's any reference to seeing red, wanting to kill Gavilar, or anything Odium-related.- 13 replies
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True, and now I've seen the WoB that have narrowed down their meaning. However, there's may be something to this moment and that of Jasnah's appearance at the end of WoR in that they both have afterimages and both involve people or events that are closely tied to the cognitive realm.
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Don't know of anyone has seen or mentioned this, but here's something I wasn't expecting while reading WoK again. Kaladin is first meeting Syl in the slave cage: Curiouser and curiouser.
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I can't figure out how to delete hidden stuff on mobile. Oh well. This Ten Fool theory is interesting. It looks like Kaladin has done us the favor of describing one Fool per book. In WoK, it's Cabine: In WoR, it's Eshu: This second one, Eshu, sure sounds like Nale going off about preventing voidbringers from returning in front of Szeth, who reassures him that they already have. Shallan and Adolin both feel like one of the ten fools when convincing Tvlakv to help her and fighting four shardbearers, respectively. Dunno if that's "I feel real stupid right now" talk or actual "I feel like this guy/girl right now but that's obvious so no need to point it out specifically". There are other references, but Kaladin gives it to us nice and straight. Anyway. Fun thought. We'll see who Kaladin teaches us about next time.
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[Edgedancer Spoilers] The Stump might be from Nalthis
Garglemesh replied to tobar14's topic in Stormlight Archive
WoB states that normally the magic translates words to the idioms of the local culture. Zahel uses Nalthis phrases because he's more stubborn and really wants to use the actual verbatim phrase. So if she's not so adamant, we'll never know she wasn't from Roshar. At least, that's my understanding. The game is an interesting tidbit though. Maybe Hoid taught it to somebody at some point and it's spread throughout the west. -
Yeah, definitely sounds like Wyndle had heard of him and not been there himself. It could have happened any time. Perhaps to study the spren inside greatshells? What Axies would give to chat with him. Though for all we know, Axies doesn't worry much about being eaten either. Maybe Hoid got the idea from him or vice versa.
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Full Edgedancer Reaction Thread [Edgedancer Spoilers]
Garglemesh replied to Chaos's topic in Stormlight Archive
I interpret that quote another way. Nightblood is a very unique type of Shardblade and what are all Shardblades? Spren. So if Nightblood is a spren, it would be a living Shardblade, not a dead one, that Szeth is bonding to and thus there would come some benefits like holding stormlight and surges. So I'd argue he's gaining abilities. -
Wait. Three of sixteen ruled but now the Broken One reigns. Guys. Taln will eventually possess Honor and Cultivation, and maybe even a third shard that maybe gets mixed up in all this. I can't imagine him defeating and possessing Honor, Cultivation, and Odium because then he'd become the new bad guy probably. Unless that's the plot twist. The three intents together probably temper each other so maybe he wouldn't be pure evil but then we'd lose the main antagonist (leaving perhaps only Autonomy). This probably happens at the end of the 10 books. Anyway. New theory, who knows.
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I know this isn't new or even special, but the five sword hafts correspond to the five male Heralds while the blade tips correspond to the five female Heralds, just as the five males can be loosely connected to Honor and the five females to Cultivation.
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I was thinking if Szeth and Nale get the Honorblades and give them to particular KR, that'd be pretty cool. That's just wishful thinking though. Nale seems pretty content to do his own thing and would probably entrust the blades to his own followers. Besides. I see amazing melding of powers being a super cool awesome thing that happens for a single battle, not long term. As far as Szeth's redemption goes, it'd be interesting to see him become Honor's champion. Is that cliché? What isn't cliché? Anyway. He would go from Odium's (or maybe Cultivation's) tool to Honor's champion. That would be redeeming. If he does spiral into evil, he'd have to lose Nightblood eventually. The evil path would create a lot of frustration because we would see a glimmer of hope for him, only to see him throw it away. I must admit Brandon's characters tend to irritate me a lot less than Jordan's did. So it would be a change if he did something like that. I mean, Kaladin's stubbornness was close but still never Rand-level. I guess he'll need us to deeply care about Szeth to make that twist hurt enough.
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Am I the only one here who sees it as an allusion to his future death, as his soul moves on to the spiritual realm?
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I'll take "Things that are oddly dark" for 500. I wonder if they're related. Szeth is there for both of these, but in his defense the next line is, "Hello, would you like to destroy some evil today?" and drop curtain. So we didn't get to see Szeth's reaction, which could have been "Gee, this sure looks a lot like a crystalline sphere I once hid away, by order of a guy I murdered". It's like the sphere has been infused with Nightblood's dark stormlight. Weird stuff, I'd say. Weird stuff indeed.
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This resonates with me a lot. Ym had no intention of killing anyone. He delivered something he hadn't known was poisoned. He was powerless to heal, to undo the wrong he'd unknowingly done. Maybe the timeline is less important? That would make more sense in Shallan's case, than some other hidden traumatic event, though her situation is still odd in that her being a Radiant put her in a situation to become a Radiant. A little recursive.
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We always talk about how people with spren became cracked or broken. We went through a whole book about Shallan's past and how broken she was. Yet, as we find out at the end of the book, Shallan had the Nahel bond before all those events. My thoughts are that either weird stuff was happening to her before her mother's death, or else the whole "breaking"/selection process is different than we think. What would a young child be doing to attract the attention of a Cryptic, who loves lies and truths? Maybe there was more abuse going on than than we realize. Maybe she did things we don't know about yet. Anyway. I'm thinking there's more secrets to unearth. It might also explain her fascination with the Ghostbloods.
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Plus we've got one group of good Listeners running around somewhere. We know you have to go out into the storm to transform regularly. It may very well be the same for the Everstorm, even if the transformation is involuntary. Then Rlain could end up with them.
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While I love this theory and think it could be a great clue, there's a few other explanations. The number of blades known to the world is a mere fraction of the number of Radiants at the Recreance. It isn't outrageous to think some organization like the Hierarchy ferreted the Dustbringer blades away due to their unnerving effect on the eyes. Then there's your more recent point that at least living blades/honorblades give a far more profound coloring effect than those seen in your typical lighteyes. I'm still fuzzy, and shed light if light you have, on how the coloring works on people. Moash's eyes were changing, that we know. Is it a permanent change? I feel like we know that Kaladin's eyes change back to dark after not using the blade for a while, from the sneak peek at Oathbringer. Do the eyes change a particular color? Or do they (Elantris spoiler inc)
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Ok, this may sound silly, but what if from the beginning Honor and Cultivation were cultivating honor among the inhabitants of Roshar? Now that Honor is dead, Cultivation is playing into Odium's hands. He knows people don't need his help. Now she's cultivating hate instead of honor. What choice does she have? She must cultivate. So you're left with a world which has become increasingly distrustful of each other. Maybe the Diagram is her way of trying to continue the "pruning" process under the new circumstances the Everstorm presents. In fact, maybe she brought the Everstorm. Who knows.
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This is really interesting. So essentially, we're looking for an order that would be able to last thousands of years undetected by the rest of society with little or no guidance or restrictions placed on them. Maybe that order would be more secretive or reclusive. Maybe that order would come to be demonized by religious leaders who knew of their persistence but wanted to mitigate that threat to their authority. Maybe that order "saw things". I'm just thinking. If you're a Skybreaker, you fly around and break stuff. It's what you do. If you're a Windrunner, you run with the wind. It's what you do. No honor spren will tell you "don't fly, it's dangerous, people will see". No high spren will either. In fact, we've seen the opposite. The same, I imagine, goes for the other orders. So it'd have to be an order that could freely use their abilities while not being discovered. Truthwatchers sound very convincing. In fact, you've convinced me. I was sure it was the Skybreakers because the High spren seemed to know so much, but then not every spren was bound back then. I'm sure there are those who stayed unbound and survived to pass on knowledge. In other thoughts, is "Words of Radiance" not a very popular or easily attainable book? You'd think that knowledge of an active order of Knights Radiant would be common knowledge. I guess she did spend most of the book trying to get a copy. Hmm. Just seems odd. Maybe the Hierarchy did a good job discrediting such literature.
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