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Isn't Rock supposed to be able to see Spren - Renarin hangs out with Bridge 4 .... was Rock with Kal when they met Shallan ? hmmmm

I read the Mistborn trilogy first - I would recommend that followed by Elantris and Warbreaker - definitely read Warbreaker prior to WoR Welcome !

I like it - maybe the ring is multiple different Spren classes on a council -- upvote

singing ? chanting ?

I love Navani - I gave my daughter Navani for her middle name ~~ Eva Navani

the Kabbalah is something I have studied for 25+ years - I'm sure there are elements that have been used the QBL is something that has been around way before Luria - the Torah / old testament is coded with it it is a very old tradition - predating the Bible the Jewish tradition has 10 Sephiroth / bottles the Arabic before that had 8 and - lol - the QBL is everywhere - used by nerds and magickians alllll over the planet }

the obvious ? I think he may not be getting a spren - Darkness has been killin those folks ... which would beg the question - do all KR orders have spren - Skybreakers might not

I'm hoping it'll have a little Nightwatcher stuff

upvotes for Lovecraft lol - yay scary things

I wonder if it's a twisted remnant of the Jesk tradition(?) - brought by our good ol' buddy on his travels

upvote for Eldritch

I'd like to see Lopen stick - sorry - couldn't resist - the stick made me do it

you may be interested in my post : A Holy Crap Nightblood Moment in the Warbreaker forum I am not sure if the timelines match up or not for Vasher to be a Herald my son and I have tossed around the idea - but it differs from your theory a bit I get the feeling that the Heralds are not native but spacemen or from a different planet - at very least Worldhoppers I believe Vasher is from Nalthis - I also believe he is a Worldhopper - previous to current situation I believe he has been to Roshar and Scadrial previously and I believe travelling to Scadrial applies to at least 2 of the 5 scholars - perhaps all

posted this in What are the powers of todays Heralds : I would imagine he would NOT use surgebinding - wouldn't that seem to contradict ? I think he is a worldhopper and can use whatever Hoid uses to be at the right place at the right time

I would imagine he would NOT use surgebinding - wouldn't that seem to contradict ? I think he is a worldhopper and can use whatever Hoid uses to be at the right place at the right time

Cthulhu gets mad when you spell his name wrong ..ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn just sayin

Nightblood is equivalent to a super Shardblade - but with nasty negative effects it was supposedly made with 1000 breaths and a 2 word command : destroy evil it was made by Shashara and Vasher I'm not sure if all of that is true - we are told that - but there could be a little miss direction In Warbreaker we are told that Shashara made the blade - in WoB we are told Vasher was imitating a Shardblade we know very little about Shashara - and we don't know all we think we do about Vasher Vasher says he was a good person but isn't any longer - though we are lead to believe he is redeeming himself we do not however know what Nightblood is made from - what kind of object or type of metal perhaps it was a special object or perhaps it is a special metal another thing we know is that it's big and heavy - different than most normal blades is that a transformation from the making or was it prior to ? I think the question : was it made from a special object or a special metal ? is the key here and of course I believe it is a dead Shardblade from Roshar resurrected on Nalthis yay Zombieblade ..but it's probably just made of silver ..but SOMETHING happened to make it have nasty negative effects

it does also say it was a collaboration - so I wonder how that happens maybe she did the command and he gave breath ? come to think about it - we don't know that it is the usual process to make awakened objects - AND - something may have gone wrong - that life sucking black smoke thing so maybe it was a hemalurgic spike by killing someone on Scadrial - OR - it was a dead spren blade from Roshar --- yay Zombieblade seriously though - the 5 scholars - at least Vasher and Denth - it says WERE good people - what changed them ? hmmmm @Iron Eyes - all good - no offense taken - I took it as a matter that we think we understand and therefore you were stating / defending what you thought was common sense - but - it isn't in psychology it's called expectation - and he uses our expectations against ourselves - we judge and think we know something and then he gets us with it

indeed - we do NOT know . Vasher says throughout the book that there is a lot we don't know about awakening we know that Vasher and Shashara collaborated on making Nightblood who's breath was used ? I am a big fan of Nightblood and I believe it is something important to the overall Cosmere story and because of a recent brilliant post by I forget who sorry - I believe we do not know what we think we do about Denth - after this last reread - I believe he's been to Scadrial and has / had access to speed one way or another also , I believe we do not know what we think we do about Vasher - by a looooong stretch just by his part in helping to make Nightblood , patterned after a shardblade, we can surmise that he is knowledgeable about different Shards / planets' magic systems / and if he can use breath on Roshar - he is knowledgeable enough to hack said systems

and that's why I am asking questions we think we know the answer to - we don't AND - he likes to specifically mess with things we think we know

I've read the book multiple times - i do know he is type IV it would make sense that he can't have it taken from him - maybe - but do we know for sure ? can he (Nightblood) give his breath away ? would he then be a drab evil-killing blade ? ...

I'm not sure seems like a mixture I agree that he probably can't - but I am not 100%

is Nightblood a being ? he is an awakened object with sentience is he lifeless ? cuz that would of course justify me calling him a Zombieblade lol

um - if Vasher made Nightblood with a bunch of his own breath (if it wasn't his it was Shashara's) can he take em back and essentially kill Nightblood ? holy crap