Kaladin al'Thor

Well I am glad that it works for me!!!

You know what's funny, is a few weeks after i posted this topic, we figured out that Sirce Luckweilder was one of my 20 people and we didnt realize who each other was haha! Sorry for bringing this old topic back but I wanted to let you know how it worked out. So he did end up finishing Mistborn. He did not love it it but he did think that the story was interesting and entertaining. He still had his issues with Brandon as a writer repeating information that he thought was unnecessary(thats prolly because he has a crazy memory so things the typical reeader needs repeated, he doesnt and finds it annoying). Part of it was how I presented the books and Brandon as an author. I did over hype it I guess, it didnt meet his expecations of what he thought it would be because of my passion for it. He thought that Well was only filler. It could of been done in a few chapters he said.. which I find ridiculous! part of reading the book attaches you to characters and forming connection and love for them so when they bite the dust, you feel it! And he still has his complaints about the characters being cartoonish and also the tell instead of show way they're thining is presented. Anyways, I let a couple months pass and didnt talk to him about it. Then I had WoK returned to me from another co-worker(im up to 27 people introduced now ), sitting on my desk. And I thought, what the heck, I'll ask him if he wants to try it. So he said sure and took it home. He finished it in two days and I brought him WoR which he also finished in two days! He did still find similar issues and additional problems, but he enjoyed it way more than mistborn and will continue to follow the series over the years. He will probably never read another Sanderson book that is not part of the SA, but hey at least it wasnt a total failure! And who knows, maybe SA will make him more passionate and branch out to other Sanderson books.

Relis ran out on the duel because he heard the dead spren screaming in his head talking about its death or accusing him of killing it. the line in the book goes something like "I did not kill you!!" then he runs out of the arena.

I have been meaning to read the other short fiction on his site. I will be getting Alcatraz when Tor releases them next year, I am looking forward to them! I am sorry to hear you don't like Perfect State, i thought it was such an interesting idea!

Spoiler Also When Szeth is killed he is freed and can now live a new life. I dont know the exact quote but Darkness says something like "I waited until you were dead to revive you. Had I waited seconds longer it could have been too late. Now all ties, physical and spiritual are broken." So Szeth is freed from his sins and does not need to let them weigh him down. Death is my life. He can now live thatnks to him dying. Sorry, I am having real trouble wording this.

I thought it would be fun to jot down the order of my favorite Sanderson books (Cosmere and non-Cosmere) with a little blurb of why I order them the way I do. I would love to hear your thoughts and how you would rank them as well! I will start at the bottom and work my way up. Ranking these is waaaay harder than I thought it was going to be. I love them all so much!!!! It is also crazy to think that in 10 years, Brandon has written so much! The 19 books I have read and love, plus those I have not had the opportunity to read. Alcatraz, Legion, Infinity Blade, Sixth of Dusk. Not to mention all his unpublished works that are available and short fiction on his site! Sorry it ended up being a little long.. I wouldn't be surprised if no one read it.. I mean who cares about some crazy guys thoughts, haha #19 – Towers of Midnight I loved the Wheel of Time! I did not start them until A Memory of light was out so I did not have the disappointment that some do after waiting years and years for Jordan to put out a book and have nothing happen (book 10). Since I was able to read every book from 1-14 with no breaks, I love them all! #18 – The Gathering Storm I did enjoy this one more that Towers because I feel like it got WoT out of a slump that RJ was in with nothing going on. I know he was heading back on track with 11 but Sanderson sped it up a ton and got things going! #17 – The Well of Ascension It was very interesting to see what happened with my favorite characters (at that point) after they had won the huge battle. It is not often you get to see how main characters change due to having a completely different set of responsibilities being placed on their shoulders. I did feel like this book had a little filler and is just a bridge between books 1 and 3 though. Still very enjoyable! #16 – Elantris I read Elantris after finishing the Mistborn Series and Way of Kings. Had I read Elantris first, I think I may have enjoyed it more. I do love the book, especially Hrathen! But I feel like Brandon improves as an author with every book. #15 – Warbreaker (spoilers) Not many books give me big surprise (even Brandon’s). The twist at the end of this book with bluefingers and with Vasher both caught me off guard. It was refreshing not to have been able to predict this until it happened! #14 – Shadows for Silence in the Forests of Hell This is the first novella I have ever read. It is fantastic! It came out at a time that I didn’t have much to satisfy my Sanderson fix other than listening to WoR over and over on Audiobook. It was such a fun read and I loved that I was able to finish it in a few hours! I really enjoyed what was going on in this world and cannot wait to learn more about it! I hope it is not the last we see of Silence or her girls! #13 – Steelheart This was a change of pace for me. After reading all of Brandon’s fantasy novels, this one had a completely different feel. It was an easy read compared to Way of Kings (which is not a tough read, but still). David’s metaphors!!! #12 – The Rithmatist This was the first YA book of Brandon’s that I read. I was a huge fan of the magic system and it was refreshing to get the protagonist who is just a regular guy. I enjoy looking at the maps of the US as they are in this alternate universe. #11 – Perfect State I got so much enjoyment out of this book! I read it during lunch at work and I actually took an hour of personal time to finish it! Then I got home and read it out loud to my wife. We both really loved it and hope Brandon does something more with this. That ending!!!! #10 – Shadows of Self I just finished this book a few days ago so it is a lot fresher in my mind than the others. As far as the book goes, I really enjoyed it. As far as my Cosmere obsession goes, I LOVED IT! I dunno, I just feel like we got so much more than I was expecting from this book! It was not as light and fun as Alloy of Law, but it is a very good read, I cannot wait until January. I called the ending very early on in the book though. Prediction seems to be a curse of mine. #9 – Mistborn: The Final Empire My first Sanderson book… I had no idea a magic system could be so complex and precise! I instantly fell in love with the characters, setting, magic, world, characters, magic, villains, characters, magic, story, characters, magic, characters… Kelsier was my new favorite character from anything, fiction or non-fiction. Book, TV show, movie. Didn’t matter because Kel blew them all away! #8 – A Memory of Light I loved loved loved this book! It would be higher on the list but it is just getting so hard to determine an order from here! I do have some complaints, Padan Fain?? What was that about!! I know even Brandon regrets how he handled that. Thought Brandon came up with some truly unique ways to use the magic system(of course he did, its Brandon, the master of magic systems). Also the way the girls acted at the end. And Edgwene! Ughh! So much awesome! #7 – Hero of Ages The way this closed the series was perfect! Perfect! This is what the standard for a series finisher should be. I literally laid in bed thinking about the ending for 4 hours after I finished it.. The way everything turned out just blew my mind! #6 – Alloy of Law I had no idea what to expect when I picked this up at the library. I didn’t even know it took place on Scadrial. Hearing from Sazed again made me squeal like a girl! I just love how entertaining and easy this book is. It is, imo, his funniest overall book he has published. Wayne makes me laugh so hard nonstop! It is so cool to see how alomancy and feruchemy have evolved and I cannot wait to see where they go in the future! Plus the creepy things that are going on with Hemulargy with SoS! #5 – Firefight Everything I loved about Steelheart was magnified in Firefight! I love the faster pace easy read! If someone does not make these into movies before I die, I will…die… Seriously, everything gets better! Everything is awesome! Oblivion! The ending! Prof!!!!! David’s metaphors! Megan!!! I cannot wait for Calamity (especially after reading the sample chapter)! #4 – Emperor’s Soul You may be surprised to see this so high on the list, especially considering where Elantris is. But this novella is just fantastic! I love the insight into how the Cosmere works. The spiritual and cognitive realms. It is such a simple quick story, but the characters are very interesting. It is very cool to see the manipulation of the cognitive realm through stamps (am I way off on that assumption?). Can stamps be made anywhere in the Cosmere? So many cool possibilities! #3 – White Sand Since Firefight came out, all I have had for my Sanderson fix is WoK and WoR rereads. Until finally I got my White Sand from team Sanderson! Luckily it came on a Saturday so I finished it in a day! I love the people and the world and the magic system! I won’t say much about it because I don’t know what is allowed, but it is amazing! And it is awesome to finally know who Khriss is!! But seriously, I am so excited for the graphic novel! I have never read one before but I need more of this story! In any format! Also, I heard there is a place where this is discussed. Can I please be invited? I would love to hear other people’s thoughts on it! (If anyone even reads this far I will be surprised) #2 – The Way of Kings OMG! Before I read this book, I had no idea how much I loved to read. I read plenty sure. But this book blew my freaking mind! It was so amazing! The world was so creative and original! I loved the characters! The flashbacks were such perfectly placed. Everything going on in this world was just so interesting! Kaladin soundly kicked Kelsier out of his spot as my favorite character of all time to the point where my first Son will be named Kaladin. The first half of this book is pretty slow, but it is so interesting! But at page 600 it just takes off! The last 200 pages are the best 200 pages of any book. Ever! The climax is just top notch! #1 – Words of Radiance WoK may have the best 200 pages ever, but this book overall edges it out of the top spot. After reading WoK, I never thought I would enjoy a book more. How wrong I was. WoR surpasses it in almost every way! It has so many little easter-eggs, I find a new one almost every time I reread! There is just so much happening in the Cosmere that we don’t know about and Stormlight gives us hints, its awesome! I swear I need to analyze every single word because nothing is just casually put in to these books. I am dying waiting for the third book! No other series will ever take hold of me the way Stormlight archive has. I have listened to WoK 23 times and WoR 49 times (just finished it this morning again actually)… I am obsessed… Don’t judge… Anyways, those are my thoughts. I have no idea why anyone would read all that, but I would be interested to hear what you all would rank the books. I love Brandon’s books so much! I cannot wait to see where the future takes us!

Just had a thought, maybe Adolin will be exiled next book(I know that's a popular theory). But, after learning a little bit of the nature of dead spren from our four radiants, he seeks the old magic. I can see it. After learning that the blade that he respects and has formed a relationship of sorts is semi dead because of some fools broken oaths, he seeks the old magic and asks the nightwatcher to help him revive it. Sorry if that's off topic. I am fairly certain that either through wob or in the text somewhere, it has been confirmed that Dalinar left to see the nightwatcher shortly after nearly murdering gavilar. I doubt he would have gone to seek the old magic to do it for him (he's the blackthorn and belives his sword is the reason alethkar is united, more so than anything Gavilar did). I think that is the point he realizes he needs to change. I will research this more later when I'm not on my phone.

I believe it is implied that Dalinar went away to see the Nightwatcher shortly before they found the Parshendi. A year or two i think(Just before Roshone arrived at Hearthstone, I am unsure of the timeline). That would have made Renarin about 15ish right? In the text they say Renarin has had his issues since at least the age where he would choose a master to teach him to sword which is 8 or 9. There might be a reference to him having it earlier but I'm not sure. I dont pay too much attention to Renarin as Adolin is much more interesting to me. So it doesnt make much sense to me that he would have waited so long if Renarin had problems to go see her if that was what he was going to ask for his boon. @Maxal - I swear we are on the same page pretty much everytime I see you post, haha!

Have someone assign 1 & 2 to dalinar and odium and have them PM someone there answer, then you pick 1 or 2.

I've always thought it was something like "Give me the power to resist coveting my brother's throne." Or, "put aside my jealousy and help me serve Gavilar." I feel like the timeline will line up and have him visit the Nightwatcher right after he almost decided to kill his brother. Just my theory... Edit - Also fueling this theory is how ashamed he is that he went. I think he either asked for something silly, our he is ashamed that his jealousy drove him to seek the old magic.

Odium. Imo our champion will be kaladin. Unless adolin revives his blade and becomes an edgedancer, then it will be him.

Has anyone seen Rocky IV? During bridge 4's training down in the chasms, I picture them training to Heart's on Fire Epic

I wish I could say David because Reckoners is amazing and Elantris is meh to me. But there is no way I can justify that.. Raoden would easily dispatch David before getting back to his books.

It took half a year after sending a very flattering email to get mine, don't be discouraged!

I asked Peter about it on Twitter several weeks ago. "Getting new art pages a few times each week! No release date yet." I cannot wait until this comes out, I really enjoyed the White Sand draft they sent me!

Seeing Stormlight 3 is still at 21%. I just am going crazy waiting for this book! I cant wait to read Shadows of Self but i NEED me some Stormlight! Also, Peter mentioned on Twitter that Chapter 1 of White Sands lettering in now in his que. Other than Stormlight, this is the series I am most excited about, the draft they sent me was incredible!

Speaking of the Shin and highstorms. I'm assuming the large figure seen in the highstorm is the storm father. If by the time they hit Shinovar they are a slight drizzle, do you think you could clearly see him?

I'm dying here!

Yes!!!!!!!

I have been thinking a lot about Adolin and what would have to happen to revive his blade(I was the one who asked Brandon if it was an Edgedancer's blade). One thing I have come up with is what if Adolin's a direct descendant(no clue how to spell that word) of the Edgedancer who was bonded to his blade. It says that the blade had been passed down through his mothers side of the family. I wonder if this will make it easier for Adolin to bond the blade... Just a thought.. Also, if Adolin were to be banished he would take his shards with him. Dalinar said the puishment for a shard bearer was exile because you could not simply execute a shard bearer or put him in prison. Now I can see Adolin potentially giving up his shards of his own free will if Dalinar asked him to but I find it unlikely. I also think Adolin is broken, re read the section. it says specifically something inside him broke, or snapped, i forget. Killing a man is not enough to break a proven warriors mind, I agree. But comitting murder? No matter what he deserves killing another human being in the manner that Adolin did would be tramatizing(again, suck at spelling). Just some thoughts. I have several questions to ask Brandon about this next time I see him. I will keep you all posted

I can agree sazed could do it if he wanted to, I don't see why he would ever want to though. Atium only creates chaos.

So the last week or two me and my good buddy(irl) Sirce Luckwielder have been having a discussion about Atium and how it is linked to the Lord Ruler's staying young. It led to some other discussions and I was wondering if any of what i suspect has been confirmed. Or maybe some of you who are smarter than I am can help credit or discredit this theory. I don't see how we will see Atium again at all and this is why. Atium was the physical manifestation of Ruin but it was either all used up to fight the Koloss or destroyed by Kelsier in the pits of Hathsin. He thinks that since Sazed has both shards there will still be Atium that will regrow. I disagree. Anyways, all of this discussion got me looking in to things that i haven't really cared about in the past (I'm a Roshar guy!) and I have firmed up in my conclusion that Ruin and Preservation no longer exist or are on the verge of no longer existing as two seperate shards. In The Emperor's Soul, Shai tries to teach Gaotona about the Physical, Spiritual, and Cognitive realm and she says this: All things exist in the three realms, Gaotona.... The Physical is what we feel, what is before us. The Cognitive is how an bject is viewed and how it views itself. The Spiritual Realm contains an object's soul- its essence- as well as the ways it is connected to the things and people around it.......Here is the point. The longer an object exists as a whole, and the longer it is seen in that state, the stronger its sense of complete identity becomes.. Do citizens of Scarial see Sazed as Ruin and Preservation? I do not believe so(my memory isn't perfect) They see him as Harmony. Sazed is seen as one entity, not to. So I believe that if the shards haven't already been merged, they are on their way. Anyways, I was wondering what people think about this theory. Sorry my post might seem all over the place, I have a hard time typing out the thoughts in my head. This is kind of new to me as I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about things on Scadrial, I've mostly kept to Roshar. So please forgive anything I might have misunderstood. Also, I'm sure when Sirce has a minute he can write our discussion better, he's a lot better with words than I am.

I am 99% sure it was intentional to let us think she was a boy. It added to the twist at the end. Also, no one can get under our skins quite like the opposite sex. I wonder if there will be any more novellas in this reality. I can see Kai and Melhi having a long and fun relationship. A lot of people's significant others drove them crazy before they developed feelings of affection.

It is very good.

I will be spending my lunch in a perfect state, reading his newest novella