Michael Portz

Is this a kind of trick question, Maximus? ;-) The obvious answer being "Doors of the Palaneum",or?

RAFO and tell us your opinion afterwards. Dont mention it?

I don't know ... Mraize ist not a person I see as "non-intervening", like the dragon is described by Hoid.

Its not Shadows! You are confusing it with Ashyn (a planet in Greater Roshar) and the story is "The Silence Divine". Otherwise I upvote your idea, as Mraize "obviously?/aparently?" using the Ashyn magic system has something to it! Why don't you make a theory out of it and post, so it gets some proper discussion? Edit: Encouraging DSC01 to properly make a theory ;-)

Hehe, look at Brandons opinion on books/novellas: http://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/brandon-sanderson-on-why-we-still-read-books-in-the-internet-era/ Kinda looks like he doesn't like the tv/movie adaption idea too much.

Thats for sure not Adolin. Its Yalb being described.

Well spoken ... I ll upvote as soon as you correct "Sword" ... ;-)

But I don't see the connection with the full lashing. Please bear in mind, this might just be my lacking grasp of the english language!

But can't this just mean "ends for us now"? Because a few lines before Jezrien says: "still bound to" in my view means the Oathpact is intact. *THINK*

As I said, in my view (!) that is Harry Potter Magic level and not worthy of Brandon Sanderson. The logic behind it must be right. "Redirecting gravity" for sure is not, at least not with the cosmere-related explanations I found so far. Don't get me wrong, I can read and enjoy stories, where some kind of magic energy influences the real world, even if it comes out of nothing. Or if all magic is constantly hidden around the corner, like in LoTR. But if an author redefines a fundamental force like gravity, I expect him to have this thought through. Why should he otherwise even USE the term "gravity"? He suggests, that this has something to do with our own gravity. Out of interest: Does Brandon Sanderson use "magnetism" anywhere around Scadrial/Mistborn novels? I never noticed and it never played a role in my picturing of the stories. And finally: Peace!!!! I don't even know why this is so important for me ... should I start worrying?? edt: addendum

I thought, the Nine left in hope, that the Oathpact was kept alive with Taln going back to damnation.

I really think, I have to break cosmere gravity into more tiny pieces, to make it fit into my cerebral structure ... What do you MEAN by "redirecting gravity"???? It sounds, as if you could take any acceleration vector or the corresponding vector of force, modify it arbitrary and re-apply it to the world. This sounds way too much like Harry Potter Magic, and I will not believe, that Brandon would use such a silly concept in any of his worlds. In OUR universe every single piece of mass creates gravity, ie. pulls on every other piece of mass in the universe. The "direction" is always to the center of the piece of mass in question (aka "Come to me, you sweet little piece of mass!"). Resulting acceleration of an object is always the sum of all "pulls". Obviously gravity is something different in Greater Roshar (or even in the Cosmere), or isn't it? It is claimed, that it is a (spiritual) bond between (two?) objects. I really think, we should view those bonds as vectors as well; just to make things sane. It has a direction, and any object can have arbitrary many bonds to other objects. If left alone, these gravity-bonds do behave just like our own good ol' gravity (aka the "depending on mass" and "diminishing with distance" stuff) Entrance "The Lashings"! Lashings reorganize those bond-vectors. Question: What does "reorganizing" mean? Suggestion: "To lash" means to multiply a constant scalar to one or several bond-vectors. The more the constant deviates from 1.0, the more stormlight you have to apply. Claim: And that is all the deviation from our standard-understanding of gravity that we need to explain lashings. Examples: Multiply the bond vector by 2, with which you pull on a piece of chocolate in front of you => Chocolate comes to you. Multiply all the bond vectors originating from a certain object by 3.5 => All things around the object start moving too it and –after reaching it– cling to it. Multiply the bond vector originating from Roshar and ending at yourself by something negative => You start moving to a certain point far above Roshars surface Multiply all bond vectors ending on Sadeas besides the one originating from this huge chasmfiend by 0.0 => One problem less Sorry for my much too unsorted rantings ... *SIGH* edt1: Typo

That sounds wrong; perhaps I misunderstand you. Could you please elaborate?

(to be read with a deep, resonating voice) WE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU, YOUNG ONE! DO NOT THING WE ARE NOT CAPABLE OF REAL EMOTIONS AND REAL PASSION.

Ahm in case you are referring to me ... where do you think I said this?

Oooookayyy ... you are shaking my understanding of lashings ... that is a good thing ... "firm" believes must be shaken from time to time :-D Soo ... gravity in the cosmere (?) –at least in Greater Roshar– is a spiritual bond between two things. For all practical purposes –at least my imagination does not go further than that– it behaves JUST like our gravity; i.e. basic rules apply, like 1. the gravitational pull decreases with distance and 2. the gravitational pull between lets say Roshar and all things of similar mass is the same IF LEFT ALONE (*). ad 1.: otherwise the whole structure of the planet system would have to be artificial, and not something, that happened because things were left alone ad 2.: otherwise it would not make sense, to say that the gravity of Roshar is roughly 0.7 of earths gravity (*) This was obviously put in due to the possibility of lashings. And now I am reaching the borders of my imagination. I wanted to put in a definition of lashings in my own words, but found that I don't have the time now and leave that for later. Comments of course welcome! EDT1: Attempt to clarify

Several hours is perfectly ok, especially if you don't want the sprens to get their little sneaky noses into it ... Moonlashing is not necessary in my opinion, there should be enough interplanetary dust, even in Greater Roshar.

Is 40 some kind of magical number in your both's believe system? It looks just plain from the other side, just like all of the other little numbers behind you ...

Thanks for the summary ;-) Despite the shadesmar option, how would a KR in an air proof shardplate full set propel himself to one of the moons? Being from a suitable order and with a sufficient store of fused gems, can he use lashings on the interplanetary dust to accelerate? *THINK*

Well ... just replace "Sneaky" by "Snaky" then ...

Disclaimer: Beware! Authors imagination in rampage mode due to approaching WoR release! Roshars moons and the other planets in Greater Roshar do play a role in the Stormlight Archive (i.e., Odium is located on one of the planets: http://coppermind.net/wiki/Braize etc.). Will Rosharians actually travel to those places in future books? Iff so, will they do by passing through Shadesmar or by using other realmatic means or will they actually "fly" there via the Physical Realm? Iff so, can Shardplates be used as space-suit?

Only if you approach him on HIS ground ... add one or two dimensions and he might be quite bumpy ...

I think Amaram is overrated; why should he bother about a handful of soldiers who died for a -in Amarams view- good cause. I really don't think he gives a damnation; and that makes it improbable, that he is bothered by the dead. Seth seems much more plausible. Mr.T close 2nd. edit: Typo

Darkness pursues a target wholeheartedly. He is a "man" of principle. Such behavior is nothing like "odium", if my grasp of the english language doesn't misguide me. I am no native speaker, though; so bear with me. "Odium" does not mean "violence" per se. "Dishonorable" yes, so the Thrill is of Odium, but not because of the violence.

Chapter 4: "Taker of Secrets", another Dalinar-Vision: http://www.tor.com/stories/2014/01/excerpt-brandon-sanderson-words-of-radiance-prologue-chapter-three-four-and-five