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Pathfinder, touché I’ll concede that point. With regards to everything else, Has anyone ever seen springer episodes and/or seen what happens on the daily between complete non-matching types lol. Reasons and logical positions and age gaps amongst adults aren’t part of the equation in this arena...in real life they rarely are. Math equations here are like Mr Bennet (The short awkward guy) trying to woo Lizzy in pride and prejudice lol. Between now and book 10, I’m willing to bet this goes down. The fact that it hasn’t happened or been mentioned yet is just stage prep.

Since like 85% of the anti-Jasnah/Kaladin guesses were based on Kaladin’s rank, I’m gonna call this one and say that, as he’s now a highmarshal, the ship is going to happen (I’ve been calling it for years anyways)... Amaram was a socially acceptable suitor and his rank was Highmarshal. Got it, she’s the queen now... but she had always been possibly in line for the throne anyways if a disaster happened to the Kholin house, and currently she is technically just a regent until Gavinor comes of age.

If Kaladin doesn’t get his armor and doesn’t swear the fourth ideal in this book I’m going to be incredibly annoyed. Years of waiting for a fantasy story while dealing with real life for the last 3 years gives fans the right, I think. Give Kaladin armor and oaths and for heaven’s sake, give that dude a friggin break from the constant beat down lol.

This may have been touched on already so my apologies if it’s redundant. Due to the nature of the RoW chapter introductions from Navani, I think that the sibling fled the tower, similarly to how the midnight mother subsequently came in, then later fled. Makes sense to me for a few reasons: 1. The nature of Navani’s intro material for each chapter is how to lure a spren into a gemstone. The obvious parallel is that the sibling was once “trapped”, albeit willingly, in the core column of Urithiru. intro’s by Sanderson are never accidental or itrelevant, and based off what we’ve read so far I’m willing to bet Navani is the mystery main character. Sorry Adolin. 2. the midnight mother copies what she sees, as we all know from OB. Perhaps she copied the sibling by hanging out on/around that column. Got it, she was previously trapped by a light weaver and eventually escaped—- but that info comes from whack job shallan who I wouldn’t trust with a potato gun (reference the movie “Armageddon”) 3. I think the sibling is “slumbering” at the honor spren city in Shadesmar, and that Adolin and Shallan’s expedition to that place will accomplish 2 things: get the honor spren to commit, and the sibling to wake up and throw some skin in the game. 3.a. The Stormfather is well aware of the siblings whereabouts, and the humans thought/reported that he had died due to Urithiru’s light. I think his 100% absence from the physical realm is more to blame. 3.b. This does nothing to answer the issue of similar Urithiru style veins in the rock in Kholinar, perhaps someone can make more connections.

Since everyone here is sharing opinions lol.... I care absolutely zero how cliche it is for Kaladin to be the predictable hero: if he is NOT the chosen one/hero I’m gonna be pretty annoyed. We’ve all got real lives and real life business to attend to, kids, and careers——these are fiction books and having the time to read them is frankly a luxury. Thus...give Adolin powers (if I wanted ordinary Powerless characters I’d just read any other book) and make Kaladin the hero that we’ve all been groomed to expect.... after all, we’ve waited years and years for him to catch a break. If someone else gets elevated to that role I’m gonna probably quit reading

Finally got to read this interlude. The main thing that stood out to me was Kaladin is sleeping a bit better—despite him still having depression which Syl is trying to alleviate. To me, this signifies that he FINALLY has caught a break and hasn’t racked-up a bunch of new reasons to be depressed. My 2 cents, we are just seeing Syl and Dalinar pick up/help his emotional train wreck—- perhaps he was sent to do surgery specifically to be with his parents?? All speculative until we have more but I think that things are looking better for him. TBH I’m gonna be pretty annoyed if this book is another Kaladin beat down. Lol. Next piece that stood out to me was this: “Then blackness took her. A fuller blackness than the absence of light. It was the split moment that her father could create. Time was a funny thing. It was always flowing along in the background like a river, but bring too much power to bear, and it warped. It slowed; it wanted to pause and take a look. Anytime too much power—too much Investiture, too much self—congregated, realms became porous and time behaved oddly.” As far as we know, the Stormfather has initiated this moment with Kaladin every time it’s happened, save once: Kaladin asks him to spare the human prisoners at the beginning of OB. Not exactly a solidly founded guess, but I’m inclined towards a hunch: perhaps Kaladin naturally brings a certain amount of investiture to a storm, something we don’t know of yet other than “Child of Tanavast”, “There is some Wit in you”, his mother’s bloodline, and the fact that Syl chose him out of millions/is convinced he’s the champ. I HATE the phrase “I feel like”, but I’ll use it here: I feel like there’s something happening/hidden in this piece.

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All the wind runner has to do is launch a handful of rocks at a Skybreaker at bullet speed, the Skybreaker isn’t turning them all to dust and/or recovering from head wounds before the wind runner nails him with a shard blade. Skybreaker vs a Windrunner is like bringing a knife to a gunfight. Probably not an accident that Jezrien was a windrunner/the “head honcho”

I thought by saying Windrunner I’d be committing the standard cliche. But since no one’s advocating for that... Windrunner 100%. Skybreakers are a close 2nd. Flight literally renders every other order out-maneuvered... No one can do anything to touch you unless it’s a soul caster, and I doubt Jasnah would beat Kaladin in a fight. Her soul casting is gnarly but I think Kaladin would outrun it. Her killing flying fused is not a good argument I think, as Kaladin can take on like 8 at a time... Windrunner vs Skybreaker could go either way, but 60/40 in favor of windrunner. I’d say Windrunner has the advantage via standoff distance and launching objects. Up close a Skybreaker could end it instantly... but so could the Windrunner via launching the Skybreaker. Standoff and flight = an aircraft with projectile weapons. No one else can hang.

Hmm... I could see it being tension, but if the armor is from secondary spren, then I don’t see how that would be a problem—- as the Stormfather isn’t the one morphing into the armor. Of note though, there are no gloryspren present in the vision with Venli and the description of the light forming around him matches what is said about Jasnah.

I’m sure someone’s noticed this before, but I finally caught it so my apologies for being late to the party. The recent post that I just saw about Bondsmiths made me curious. We all know Brandon has said that certain people in the story already have their plate... I know Jasnah has strong hints in the battle for Thaylen City, and presumably all the level 4 Skybreakers that are training Szeth have it, as they directly tell him that he gets his plate at level 4. (But I also believe they have a weird deal with Shardblades, as Nale implies to Szeth that the blade only comes to a level 5 Skybreakers.) Also Kaladin might have something going on with the windspren, but what about Dalinar? “You’ll be a radiant without shards”. - the Stormfather.... but he does have shard(s). There’s the obvious example of Dalinar using the stormfather as a sword to activate the oath gate (see pics), but what about the swirling light patterns around him that we see in the Oathbringer chapter titled Neshua Kedal? (Pic also) No glory spren are present here as we see in the battle, and the description of the light patterns around him make me think of an over shield in Halo or something when you take a hit. Definitely similar to the part with Jasnah. Part of me thinks the Stormfather’s shard line is simply him being bossy/a bully, and that Bondsmiths have always had access to normal shards the whole time. Thoughts??

I definitely agree that the sibling is an absolute wildcard.... we literally know almost nothing except vague hints and random tidbits from Kaladin and Shallan who note stuff like similar rock veins in the wind blade tunnels at Kholinar vs Urithiru etc. I’m not sure it’s cliche to have a second or even third Kholin Bondsmith. In real life, we see stuff like that all the time.... the Kennedy’s, the NFL QB brothers, etc. If I had to guess, I’d say the candidate list for the Nightwatcher cannot include Taravangian for the simple reason that he already went to see her and received a boon. Perhaps her bonding is only done at the behest of someone who 1) shows up to request a boon, 2) Is someone she’d consider bonding and 3) says the words. In my mind, likely candidates for this would be anyone who’s never been to the Nightwatcher: Rlain, Navani, Rock, Adolin (despite the Maya thing.... in fact, that might enable the full restoration of Maya), etc. It also could be that the Nightwatcher looks for established squires to a radiant. If so, then that’d be a whole new list besides Rock..... we just don’t know at this point. For the sibling, what do we even know in the first place? Sure, the Stormfather’s “sibling”... but also the Nightwatcher’s sibling? Is the storm father the Nightwatcher’s brother? Who is exactly is siblings to whom in this situation? Forgive me if there’s a WOB, I haven’t found it yet... but as far as I know we know exactly Jack and Squat about who this dude is. I like the idea that he’s the Soren for the continent, that makes the most sense I think—- if that’s the case, then I’m inclined to think that the bondsmith for the Sibling would either be a singer (Rlain) or an as-yet-unidentified Shin—unless for some reason Szeth dual hats somehow. Personally I think the Sibling is slumbering in either Shinovar, the Purelake, or the Origin... but most strongly in Shinovar, as (if he’s the earthy type) Shinovar most replicated land and plants as we know them on earth and has minimal high storm activity. Aside from a Shin or a Singer, I think it would most likely be Navani... she’s been married to two bond smith candidates, one of which actually became one. She’s at the epicenter of that realm and has the interest in fabrials.

My reasoning for azure is based mostly on the Die Hard style “hunch” that Carl Winslow has about Bruce Willis lol. The way Kaladin and Azure interact in Kholinar screams mutual respect and intrigue w/zero romance. Since Warbreaker is linked strongly to Stormlight, even if Azure is a minor character FOR NOW in Stormlight, I think those two are gonna become the mighty ducks equivalent of the Bash Brothers before long

I’ve got my money on Azure.

That’d be a crazy twist. I definitely agree in spirit, but not with the specific herald. “One of them is certainly a traitor to the rest”- a few possible meanings but I’m putting my money on Nale being the traitor—— that guy is a complete whackjob. And who better to be corrupt than the judge/legal guy?

Not sure I agree that Honor has no problem with Scorched Earth. Executing women and children—- or a solitary incompetent king for the greater good??? Syl and Kaladin’s conversations on this are relevant I think.... plus we have “The Patriot” where even the Torry tells Revolutionary War Lucius Malloy that “there is no honor in this” when ordered to burn the church full of civilians.

I’m a fan of the honorblade guess. In Oathbringer, the chapter titled “Broken People” ends with the Stormfather explaining the Oathpact to Dalinar and Navani. The context of the conversation is the honorblades as well as the bond the Heralds have which allows pain sharing. Then we have this part where “Unite Them” is 1. placed directly in the context of that conversation and 2. In the literal presence of the honorblades.

There’s one variable that hasn’t really been discussed yet — that humans fought for odium originally and the singers fought for honor... and the Stormfather says that the fighting wasn’t a black-and-white split in the past, that humans fought for the other side in previous desolations after the shard swap. This is purely speculative, but complete genocidal scorched earth could possibly have already been tried in the past by Honor’s forces, aka the Singers. Eshonai/Venli talk about how the Stormfather was a traitor to them in the past. Perhaps there was a Recreance before the “main” Recreance, which caused a shard-flip before the oath pact? The singers decided to try scorched earth/genocide against the invading humans, and in the process of veering off the path of honor, lost access to Honor’s surges/spren?

My apologies if this is already been posted somewhere; I looked and searched but am currently limited to a smartphone that’s been dropped a hundred times... so I guess my post is more of a question. Has anyone taken an in-depth look at the 3 prologues + the longer Navani prologue we have, looked at the Words of Brandon on all-things-prologue, and compiled a timeline of the evening/sequence of events? Mainly asking because I came across some WOBs about it and he seemed keen on pointing out Gavilar’s meetings with certain circles that night—not all being aware of who else he was meeting. So I re-read them all, looking for super-specific details like Nale being present at the feast and speaking to Elhokar as Szeth departs to find Gavilar, but being Enroute from Gavilar’s chamber (OB) to the feast hall via corridors (WoR) when intercepted by Jasnah.... seems like there are a lot of pieces that can be fit together, it’s like Clue. If it’s already been done, awesome...does anyone have a link? My apologies for duplicating a thread if that’s the case.

I always just read the passage with the simplest explanation: adrenaline. Kaladin was about to die, Rock had to act. We’ve all heard the stories of mom’s lifting cars off their kids in an emergency.

I tend to agree with Thanatos.... that Dalinar’s union of the gloryspren and temporary restoration of Honor’s perpendicularity was foreshadowing a full union of adonalsium?? (Hard for me to be very in involved in the Cosmere with kids driving me nuts perpetually lol, my time to search forums and stuff is limited) on that note, can anyone explain what exactly even happened in that scene? Dalinar ascended but what does that even mean? He didn’t ascend the way Sazed did... and his line to the stormfather about his will, my soul, honors power (something like that) does nothing to explain what happened. Honor is still dead and splintered.....??

i definitely don’t think Kaladin will die. He’s “the” son of Tanavast (per the storm father). I used to think he’d die but the more I dig into the WOB archive the more I’m convinced Kaladin lives. Also, Adolin will definitely become a radiant... I think Brandon made an accidental slip here, if you carefully compare these.... apologies if someone’s already pointed this out (pic):

Definitely a cool theory! I found the Jasnah passage just for reference, along with a WOB: