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  1. If I never have to see the word 'Hamiltonian' again for the next month or so... I told my prof flatly, as I was going through the manuscript, "Look, I've checked everything except your Hamiltonians, okay? I can check your basic DEs, I can spend two hours going through German articles to see who on earth Claisen's co-discoverer of the Claisen rearrangement was, I can check everything else, but please don't ask me to check your Hamiltonians because I'm not trained and I have no idea even if there's a misprint." My prof said, very calmly, at the end of all that: "I never even expected you to check the mathematics. I know that's not your job." ...Sigh.
  2. I could do that, with the caveat that most of those I know no longer exist; I had to memorise the order of battle w.r.t. the battle for Malaya and for Singapore, so stuff like the 14th Punjab Regiment which was part of the British Indian Army and fought with British forces in most of the theatres, would've later become part of the Pakistan Army, I believe. But sure, let me try anyway. From the historical British Army around WW2: 1. Cambridgeshire Regiment 2. Royal Norfolk Regiment 3. Suffolk Regiment 4. Gordon Highlanders 5. Manchester Regiment To avoid controversy, I've left out colonial forces like the Royal Malay Regiment and the 14th/16th Punjab, since the latter are usually reference historically as being of the British Indian Army.
  3. It's the claim that we do not do things because reason magically compels us to follow it. Which is the problem with certain views *cough* Kant *cough*. The reason why that particular passage is so beautiful/insightful is not because Hume says we're unreasonable beings: he's claiming minimally that if we do not have a 'passion' [desire, in modern parlance] to do something, then no matter how good the reasons for doing something are, we won't do it. [Note: we could have a desire to get something, e.g. to get healthy teeth, and know that seeing the dentist will help in furthering this goal. But furthermore, the desire must be stronger than our desire to avoid pain, than our desire to stay away from the scary dentist...] I felt this was somewhat germane to the conversation: it just seemed to me, a bit, that the Epics are pretty much people whose desires were full-strength. They simply can't and don't override them with other desires the way we do. (At least on the Humean picture...) Furthermore, it puts the 'love' suggestion in a different light: less the power of love, but a different, strong, desire that might put the brakes on some of the overriding ones they have. P.S. I'm not exactly a Humean about desire, just thought it was an interesting connection with the way the thread was going.
  4. ...Clearly, Adavantos is not the only person with insomnia. Congratulations, Wyrm, I think your game plays merry Braize with players' sleep cycles >> For the record, I'm involved in 12 PMs. Assuming that a dozen counts, by any standard unit of measure, as 'many', I should like to state for the record that I have never fished for role information, only sought to talk and get a better feel for the person I was communicating with and to troll. Heavily. Anyone I spoke to is free to stand as my witness, or to contradict me on this. In fact, I recall you telling me you had, I quote, "some juicy information on Phat." I said that I did not desire to know about it for informational safety reasons. Nor have I asked any role information-pertaining questions. Noted, with my apologies. I will endeavour to post at a better time for everyone to read at their convenience. Bad Kas! Bad, bad Kas! I thank you for replying with your impressions of Bort and Bridge Boy To be frank, this quote is the reason I came back. Because, you know, instigating discussion isn't just asking people for their views. It's about responding to their views. It's about promoting discussion--overall discussion--by promulgating your own views, in order that people know where you stand, and in order that people can react to what you say. Which, in turn, promotes further discussion. You were correct to press me on my perspective on Bridge Boy and Bort. Yet it seems to me that if you love to have to talk, then consistent with that, surely you would enjoy offering us your impressions more freely than you have been doing. And that's not just it. You asked me for a suspicions trade, and when I presented you with my suspicions (after, I admit, being a bit uncivily grumpy), you never responded to it. You simply asked me for my take on STINK (which was, already, within the post!) So here's what strikes me as odd, Creccio. You thrive on discussion. All right. But after pressing me for my suspicions (and my demurring, rather rudely, and I apologise for that, due to busy work), you didn't read my suspicions post. And I grant it was somewhat long, but it also seems to me as though you weren't really serious about wanting those suspicions. You certainly kept asking me for suspicions/people to nail to a post if I died thereafter. Furthermore, we continued conversing for quite some time after that post went up; so you certainly weren't pressed for time. None of that, to me, is consistent with wanting to promote discussion. Discussion involves considering suspicions; not just formulaic asking for them. It involves examining and engaging with the suspicions involved by others. I saw none of that, and I cannot help but feel something strange with this. P.S. Considering you asked me to nail Adavantos's hide to a post if you died, why refer to him as a Loyal now? Araris, I would still like an answer. And I know I've been pretty bad about staying off for good, but the fact remains that rollover is at 4AM my time, so I cannot be around on rollover on this weekday (and it's probably not good for my health anyway, even if it were a weekend...) So if there's a change, please work around me, because I won't be up to be able to retract my vote. I know it's a kind of risky thing I'm doing, but inconsistencies definitely set me off.
  5. Was going off after reading a paper on whether we can commit dignity harms against the dead, decided to pop on, only to see this... Hey, Jabba? I have a nomenclature advisory for you, here And I do want to say just a little about this because man, I can't even take a month's break off the games before I come back and start getting hit by this osik >> Dude, I'm a mid-range player on Wilson's scale for a reason. So that's not really much of a triumph for you, y'know Fact of the matter is, I tend to be a liability to my team no matter which side I'm on, in part because I'm so storming paranoid. (You have Wyrm to thank for that...) If anything, it's less about being unable to read you, and simply that I'm always going to second-guess my judgement, to be extra-paranoid dealing with you precisely because I didn't see your allegiances that first time. I'm very much a 'fool me twice, shame on me' sort of person, and it shows in how I play. That's why Wilson got so ticked off at me when I almost killed her in MR4, just because I couldn't forgive myself for that one mistake I made in getting Meta lynched and absolutely refused to make another. That let Macen exploit my paranoia and had me almost lynching our Surgeon and revealing him, in fact. Upshot is I've never forgiven myself, and I will always be paranoid. I know it's just a game, but I can't stop being hard on myself for it anyway. That you have fooled me before just means I'm gonna be extra-paranoid when it comes to you, so that actually trying to get a read on you becomes an exercise in balancing paranoia and my tendency to over-compensate. While I might've deflated that moment of triumphal ribbing, can't say I'm too sorry, my bearded friend Kind regards, -Kas the Paranoid. Edit: Going to sleep for realz. Please do not disturb. Hell hath no fury like a sleep-deprived uni student.
  6. New thing learned today: the toxin puzzle, by Gregory Kavka, in which one may be better off by having the desire to intend to do something; and yet worse off if they actually follow through with that intent.

  7. Interesting. And your views? I do have a question or two I'd like to ask BB. On the one hand, I can pretty much understand why he jumped on Alv: it's at least consistent with how he was when I GMed him (*cough* much enthusiasm, *cough*), so I'm rather willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that. I stress it doesn't mean I trust him; it just means I do not have especial reason to flag him as extra-suspicious. I would like to know why you voted for Adavantos on Day 1, BB, as well as for a bit more excavation of your reasons for trusting STINK. With regard to Bort, I'd honestly need to think more and look through his posts again before I form a judgement. I'm especially wary when it comes to Bort, because I simply didn't catch on to his being an Eliminator the last time we played together [LG12.] Someone else did; I just did what they told me to and poisoned him. I had similar issues when spectating QF9: could not tell that Bort was evil. So seeing as I seem to have a bit of a blind spot where Bort is concerned, I feel the need to actually be very much awake/aware/non-exhausted But what about you, Creccio? Unless I'm mistaken, you seem to spend more time pressing people for their suspicions and opinions than being forthcoming with your own. (It might, one could argue, be a good way to appear active and a member of the Crew without having to actually commit very hard to a position that could come back to haunt you later in the game.) Quid pro quo, mate. What've you got for us? I will leave my vote on Araris; less because of suspicion of STINK since the issue is now so muddled I could flip a chull, and more because I do want an answer from Araris about that slip of reasoning. I should also note I am at least pleased to see STINK becoming more forthcoming. As a warning, I should note that I am not likely to be back on before the cycle ends. I've gone several days with wrecked sleeping patterns (as you might recall from my 'October' slip earlier this Shift...) and today was a long day for me. If I want to be able to put together my thesis report and maritime piracy paper, I need more sleep and a fresh/clear mind rather than an exhaustion-fogged one. So, see you guys on the other side...
  8. I'm a planner more often than a pantser, and I guess the muse was with me that year. Either way, the creative juices were flowing so it was more question of stamina and getting everything out as I saw it, in my head, on digital paper and ink. I wouldn't really recommend doing such an intense sprint, and I doubt I'll be doing it again
  9. In theory, yeah, but some regional forums, like mine, consider that semi-cheating for the purposes of Region Wars, so... :/ ...Just don't tell them.
  10. ...Shh, not so loud, Chief. If my region mod knows I'm cheating to boost word count in this way for our Word Wars, I'll never hear the end of it... >>
  11. We can do all the things, you know. Maili's death was one lead. It isn't our only one. We still have yet to make sense of the information from the previous day, as I've already said. Remember all the discussion over the BB-Shallan lynch race? Are you, then, convinced by Bort? What do you think of Bridge Boy? What do you think of the discussion that has emerged since then? (Notice that by focusing on the emergent discussion, we are still taking a step back from focusing on hunting down the Traitor among those who knew of Maili's role.) We can still discuss strategy: we can consider possibilities. For instance, I have a suggestion, and that is this: all Crew Surgebinders should send something to be put up in the next day's write-up. Repeat, attention all Crew, all Crew, Surgebinders should send something to be put in the next day's write-up, over. (Sorry, just had to say that >>) Here's my reasoning: sure, there's no guarantee among them won't be a Traitor Surgebinder. But what does matter is that it gives people a way of identifying themselves. If we'd like PMs to stay there, or if we don't really want to realise/end up lynching a Crew Surgebinder by mistake, one of the ways they can identify themselves is by explaining a secret message embedded in their anonymous write-up message that only they know. I'd urge them to be careful about it, as I inadvertently gave away my own identity in...I think it was QF6? Well, when I did that. But at the same time, it's very useful as they could save their lives that way. Maili often did that when he was able to anonymously post messages in the write-up. The point that I believe Adavantos is trying to make, and well, if he isn't trying to make it, I've certainly said it enough times and will make it again: We shouldn't tunnel. We've focused on finding the Traitor among that crowd, and that's one promising line of reasoning. But we can't stall there. Do you remember how Deathclutch was so utterly convinced that Kipper just had to be a Traitor and went for him like a berserker? What happened after that? Tunnelling is bad. The one piece of advice I always retain from Meta is reminding me to keep my suspicions fluid, because I definitely suffer from a tendency to lock-in, myself, and to not stop until my target is lynched. Well, we've heard from those involved. I at least am going to think further on the issue, take a step back, and try to analyse the matter from different angles. Furthermore, yes. I have considered the possibility that there were other reasons behind Maili's death. It could, funny enough, even have been because Maili voiced suspicions to the wrong person. It could have been a fear kill. And as Adavantos pointed out, he is correct to have noted that Maili could've spoken to someone else who isn't stepping up because they're a Traitor. My initial reason--and entire point--of asking for a map of Maili's communications isn't just because we want to see where potential leaks could've come from. It's because we want to compare this to/with maps of where information has generally been flowing in the Crew. Maybe we can't do anything about it now. But what happens when we get a fuller map in future and start noticing gaps? I think tracing down those gaps would give us a useful avenue of reasoning. So yes, I'm willing to take a step back and consider things again, for now.
  12. While I'm fine with lynching someone else today, my issue is with getting the Kandra to scan STINK. (Assuming, of course, we have another or a Forged Kandra.) As I see it, STINK hasn't been particularly helpful, though perhaps he has been behind the scenes. Setting aside the debate on whether or not we should take him out, it would seem to me that given all the information you've been amassing, I'd almost just like to be really certain we've trusted the correct person and have the Kandra scan you. (If they haven't already done so.) As I've said in the PMs, you're the player I trust the most in this game, but people can be mistaken. I'm awfully bad at mindgames, so I don't dare to go 100% on my instincts. (Which probably explains why I haven't roleclaimed to you, apart from King's Wit.) Or scan Wilson, since she's a major suspect as well in the Maili debacle. At the end of the day, my qualms are more with how suboptimal it seems, having the Kandra clear STINK, when there are more strategic targets around. (For that matter, why not scan Bridge Boy, considering how he's become one of the lynchpins of this web of connections from the previous cycle? There are other options IMO, and many of them seem more appealing.) I'm sorry for roleclaiming Aiel in public :/ I thought it'd be okay, since I live in the Thricefold Land, and all. And apparently am a badchull warrior because of that. And one of the People of the Dragon. And... I should've known better. *bows head in shame* - I'd also like to ask publicly for some advice about how to handle things, if I do have one or two suspicions, but can't actually reveal them because doing so would infringe the Fair Play rules.
  13. It's always possible to extend discussions that the layperson would consider 'philosophical' to the domain of academic philosophy. The conversation on Gibbletish can easily be connected to the Derek Parfit-John Grey-Bernard Williams-David Hume debates on the persistence of personal identity. And I've already mentioned how one could possibly go about connecting his discussion at the end of WoK to issues in aesthetics. At the end of the day, fiction and philosophy do have fruitful connections that can be drawn between them. There's a reason why classes entitled 'Fiction and Philosophy' and 'Science Fiction and Philosophy' do exist. While analytic philosophy seems admittedly abstract, in particular, in the case of metaphysics, the very existence and increasing popularity of Applied Philosophy indicates we're trying to make a turn towards connecting our theories and models and concepts with issues in real life, whether with regard to drone warfare, piracy, or even the social organisation of knowledge, or accounts of the good life, virtue (both epistemic and moral) and good art. I think, if there's something I want to really emphasise in this thread, philosophy isn't really its content, and that's a mistake a lot of Year 1s and 2s tend to make. They're too quick to dismiss parts of another field as being 'unphilosophical' and 'unrigorous'. We have a long-standing grudge match against sociology and literature, for instance. Which is, in a way, really sad. Philosophy is about a set of concerns, that's true. We do tend to focus more on normative questions, but that doesn't preclude doing descriptive work. And the upshot for this discussion is that philosophy, even past the normative questions, I think, is about an attitude. It's about using a particular set of analytical tools, a particular way of asking questions and reasoning, as a lens through which to see matters, to clarify concepts, and to gain knowledge. And I think that's both beautiful, and shouldn't be considered to take on such a restricted domain. Not all of us work with analytical models, and questions can be philosophical in virtue of the fact that they function as a starting point for philosophical discussion. My Honours political philosophy class, for instance, began with a discussion of Brave New World and utilitarianism; there is no explicit model, one must draw the connections by one's self. And right now, I'm preparing a presentation on a paper connecting issues in maritime piracy (which one would consider more legal, geographical, or political) to philosophy. It's very difficult, but very rewarding to see all sorts of fruitful connections can be drawn. Well, that's it, guys. I guess I shan't continue to get excited. I just get a bit puzzled when I hear some of the stranger claims made about my field, and I thought I'd just like to give my own input about how we philosophers work [Full disclaimer, I'm just an Honours student, so it's just my perspective, rather than any sort of professional insight, but I hope to go on to do graduate studies, and if I'm very lucky, do this for a living someday!] #philosopherKasout Edit: And of course, philosophy does want to connect to experience. There are entire schools of thought and areas in which lived experience is the primary source of philosophical insight. After all, free-floating analytical models are, to be blunt, extremely unhelpful and often run the risk of being accused of stemming from the infamous 'ivory tower'.
  14. Elbereth: I think Lopen's already addressed the issue, but I'll just further add that the thing is that it really falls down to the tendencies/preferences/style of the Mistborn? Some players prefer to go wild with taking down their suspicions, especially when they have a kill role. Others prefer to hang tight and wait for absolute certainty. And some...just never use it at all without the thread calling in an airstrike. So I would just shrug and say that the lack of kills so far doesn't really say anything about Mistborn numbers. To be honest, with say, 32 players (31 now that Maili's left us), I would not be surprised if Wyrm* put a couple of kills in, simply because of existing Voidbringers, the Elantrian, and player numbers. *While it is possible for people to think about how they would probably balance the game if they were a GM, I do not recommend trying to guess Wyrm without further information. It is a path to madness, sadness, despair, radical scepticism and solipsism. I should also add that I was told (by Wilson) that she had heard of "multiple Mistborn" claiming. I do not, for obvious reasons, know who they are. (Need-to-know basis!) Kipper: You're right in pointing out I'm being too paranoid, and I admit I have an ulterior motive in asking not to be told these details. For one, I find it more fair: if people give you information, you sort of feel psychologically obliged to be polite and to return what you have rather than be a freeloader. (Perhaps you do not, but I do.) I would worry if what I had been entrusted with was sensitive information! The more I'm like a mushroom [=kept in the dark and fed crap] , the less I can unjudiciously reveal to people I'm in contact with. I leave knowing about sensitive information to the people who are generally less exhausted (if it's not apparent, I've been mostly sleeping in the morning due to other reasons, but my exhaustion carries over...) and therefore less prone to making mistakes which could, based on how much the information mattered, get people killed. Maybe in some other game... Kaid, I'm still wary of you, but I will accept that for now. Araris: Isn't it a bit disingenuous to pass what STINK is doing off as being "valuable contributors to the conversation"? You slip between two claims: between the claim that STINK is an active player, and the claim that STINK is a valuable contributor to the conversation. I'll grant that he is the first, but as I've pointed out from Night 1, he hasn't made much valuable contributions. If anything, he has been extremely reticent. Fine. He claims that he wants to not be read. Well, that's his play style and I'm not going to interfere with that. I've never had to play with him before, so y'all know best. But at the end of the day, if he's not going to be more useful than trying half-heartedly to defend himself, how, by any stretch of the imagination, can he be considered a 'valuable contributor to the conversation'? There's no point in voting for the HI now, for obvious reasons. But I find it interesting that the HI has nothing to say about the death of a Hemalurgist. (Death of a Salesman?) Adavantos, you mentioned you would explain the method to your madness. We're at four pages. Where are you? What do you have to add to the Wilson-Kipper-STINK mess? (I'm sure you do not mind a little of my paranoia asserting itself; after all, as you correctly pointed out, if you were in fact a Traitor, we'd have more or less put a great deal of resources in your hands.) I strongly doubt the Forged Kandra would show themselves, and I would hope they don't, as it would just invite a role-block from the BioChromancer (again, assuming Alv is truthful), wasting one of the two nights in which the Forge holds. If there is an indirect way to ascertain if the target has indeed been Forged, I would prefer that we take such a method that does not go through Wilson or STINK since they are the issue here. I should also add I'm definitely in favour of Forging Maili's role onto someone ASAP; the issue being that we need to know if the HI is still loyal, and more importantly, we presumably want to deny the Traitors access to that role. (Interestingly enough, if we're looking at the Shallan-BB lynch race, then some of our suspects/the people who have taken flack for it have appeared again. That is one reason why I do wonder if the Surgebinder is a Traitor: I wouldn't consider it out of the realm of possibility for them to be loyal, but there's a distinction between messing with the Crew and just being counterproductive. In addition, if Wilson is innocent (this is an assumption I am not entitled to make, but will make for the moment, so mark this as an assumption!), then one might think it is certainly consistent with what has been going on: she gets implicated, presumably, in instigating a lynch train, and then she gets implicated for Maili's death.) ...Finally, despite this probably being a very bad idea, I'm obligated to toss my hat in the ring and volunteer as tribute, Forger. While I'm not terribly fond of the idea and probably don't inspire much confidence, more choices are better than fewer. (This choice, I should add, emerges out of the knowledge of my allegiances, rather than say, knowledge of my role. If we generally want to be denying the Traitors access to Forged roles, then Forging a Traitor kind of misses the point, wouldn't you say? )
  15. Good catch, Biggoron! I'd almost forgotten about that. My immediate read is that we have a Traitor!Surgebinder, then. It seems to me that whoever posted that message more or less knew what was coming (although I suppose a Crew!Surgebinder could also have simply assumed there would be a kill and chose to implicate Wilson, but that doesn't make as much sense to me. Unless they were messing around...) If this is the case, we may have an idea as to the possible make-up of the Traitor team (in part) : 1. BioChromancer (if Alv is truthful) 2. Feruchemist (depending on Day 1 votejacking) 3. Surgebinder
  16. Yeah, sorry if I was pushing it a bit too much :/ All I can say in my defense is that I was getting increasingly frustrated with the rampant claims, and Maili's death was pretty much the breaking point in, "See, this is why you don't do that sort of thing for the love of all things sane." Anyway, I'm going to take a break from this now and get some work done, and generally just chill. I can't answer the question on the meta as I have not quite played recently, and it really seems to depend on who's playing. Forgive me; perhaps I'm not exactly understanding the situation just right, Cursor. The thing that niggles at me is that even though STINK had guessed it, there was no need or reason to say that was what Maili had claimed. He could just as well be a Feruchemist, a regular...it just seems to me as though it wasn't strictly necessary for STINK to reach that conclusion, nor for the only possible deflection to be "Well, that's what Maili said, anyway." EDIT: tldr; Kas is going to take a chill pill and get some work done, and come back when he's ready to be a civilised human being.
  17. ...Because I'm hungry and I would like to eat a steak...? Seriously, dude. Can a guy not be hungry on this thread anymore without being called out for it? On Day Shift 1, Cow decided that my reminding people to follow PM safety was rather "needless", and well...I'll let y'all read the rest for yourselves. I am pointing out, rather ironically, that clearly, this was not the case. Considering that I heard of a bunch of Mistborn outing themselves as well (note: I do not know who; I was merely told that they had), one can possibly understand my frustration, as well as the great desire to ironically point out that in light of what this ship is doing, it clearly was neither convention nor needless. P.S. If I'm speaking a bit harshly from frustration, sorry guys. Trying not to be Aggro!Kas or No Prisoners!Kas here :/ But I am honestly deeply frustrated with the ease and alacrity with which this ship has trusted on Day One. Edit: Kipper, this is why I should be banned from posting at 5:09AM... >> Thanks man
  18. Seriously, Kaid? This is your first reaction to the death of a Hemalurgist? It seems to me that you don't really seem to be bothered by it at all. If STINK is not going to bother defending himself or answering any questions previously raised about him, I am sorely tempted to slap a vote on him and to leave it there, the consequences be hanged. (At the very least, if he is really a Forger, it might be good to get a Kandra on him--but once again, that misses a more pressing problem--whether he's a Forger on our team.) I have questions for Wilson as well. Why announce to the thread that STINK's a Forger, if you believed him to be one? Furthermore, why, knowing how vital the Hemalurgist is, did you then tell STINK instead of simply leading off his guess or simply deflecting it? Once again, I would like to request that people who knew of Maili's role come forward and to explain how you heard of it. Granted, if there is in fact a Traitor leak, we mightn't be able to draw in a full network map, but every little bit helps; knowing who else heard it or who heard it from whom can still give us somewhere to begin. While Maili's death could be a fearkill, I strongly believe it to be a kill based on unwisely leaked information: the knowledge that he was a Hemalurgist. Finally, I would like to once more prevail upon everyone to practise PM safety. As I believe Cow will have seen by now, this is and has clearly not been convention, and we may have lost someone as a direct result of carelessness. Edit to deal with Wilson's point: Yes. There was a chance it was due to luck. But in a game where you and Alv are also playing? In a game where Adavantos was clearly gathering information and making plans? I'm not convinced that Maili would be the intuitive target for fear or threat kills. And even if he were, the fact that you all were also playing at least drops it to a 1/4 chance. (Anyway, if it was a fear kill, we should probably be taking a close look at the people from MR9...) I want to clarify that we shouldn't just discuss Maili's death. Which again, goes without saying, but sometimes, we can still get overexcited and narrow down. We still have yesterday's last-minute lynch. Let's keep talking, people. That's a big deal.
  19. I would like to at least establish a list of players who knew of Maili's claim and where they heard it from. I think it's clear that this claim seems to have spread everywhere; I'd heard of a Hemalurgist who apparently decided to roleclaim, and I have absolutely no idea if it was Maili. Parsimony dictates I believe that Hemalurgist was Maili; the precautionary principle dictates I assume we have a second Hemalurgist running around whose identity is known. If possible, we want to trace where the information went, and where it flowed; we want to map the informational nodes and then start from there. I will start the ball rolling (though it looks I might be ninjaed by now) : -Creccio claimed at 5:04AM my time (=GMT + 8) on the 7th October to have access to a "sketchy hemalurgist [sic] claim." -Wilson claimed at 2:20AM my time (=GMT + 8) on the 8th October that a Hemalurgist approached her and claimed to her; at 2:26AM, she noted that she "had reason to believe" that said Hemalurgist had claimed to "multiple people". -Kipper claims at 4:16AM my time (=GMT +8) on the 8th October that someone told him that Maili was a Hemalurgist (actual term used: "third-hand, about 60 minutes ago.") Wilson corroborates that one-directionally by identifying herself as the person who told Kipper about it. -STINK refuses to comment; Wilson claims at 4:29AM my time (=GMT +8) on the 8th October that she informed STINK of Maili's role.
  20. The day itself was not much better. Sleep, Sonder’d learned, was the sort of thing you learned to forgo when working on a ship. When all sorts of emergencies happened, as they invariably did, you just had to drop what you were doing—even if it was fumbling your way to awareness, having been woken up by one of the ship-based alarms—and scramble as fast as possible to whatever needed attending to. Then, there was doing whatever wasn’t strictly in your contract. When crem happened, as da Gama said, philosophically, over the rim of his stained coffee mug, you just had to hustle and do whatever it took; go wherever you were told to. Didn’t matter if you were a Fourth in charge of sewage and cooling, or if you were a Third manning the comm systems, or even a cadet nervously keeping an eye on the auxiliary engines, under the supervision of an engineering officer. If you had to do things, you did them, or maybe you weren’t coming back planetside. And that was that. Things were working as they were supposed to be: for now, and for a given value of ‘supposed’. Second and a few juniors were checking out one of the engine cylinders, which had begun to develop a stuttering, rattling sound. “Sounds like something’s loose in there,” Second was saying. His kit lay, spread out neatly on the floor of the engine room, before him. They’d rerouted power in order to be able to shut down cylinder five and were presently waiting for it to cool, enough that they could work it open with sufficient precautions, given a heat-eater, which was based off the feruchemical use of brass. Sonder passed them and continued on. Earlier, Second’d called them all together and informed the rag-tag group of engineers and technicians that had gathered that in the light of the recent attempts at sabotage on the Shardship, the Captain and the Chief’d agreed to put everyone on double shifts. At the first collective groan that arose in light of the news, Second’d added, sharply, “Mind, the deck officers are also on double shifts. But the Chief wants someone in the engine room around the clock, and that means we’re going to have to work double. With someone on duty 24/7.” “Where’s the Chief?” someone called out. A cadet, of course, Sonder thought. Second rolled his eyes and looked at him. “On the bridge, of course,” he said. “Shouldn’t he be here?” “Be lucky to see him in here at all,” muttered a technician in front of Sonder, mutinously. As Second raked a sharp glance over at her, she raised her hands and shrugged, defensively. “I’m just saying, is all.” Second cleared his throat. “The Chief’s handling things on his end,” he said, firmly. “And that’s all any of you here need to know. All of you’ve signed contracts. You’re working for this ship, and if it means you need to work twice as hard to make sure no one succeeds in sabotaging her, you’ll do it.” “What about us?” Second looked around sharply, but could not find the person who’d spoken. “What about that?” he demanded. “Who is it?” The gathered huddle parted and a technician smushed in among the ranks emerged; his blue coveralls still stained by soot and grease. “They’re trying to sabotage the ship, and it looks to me like they’re killing everyone who gets in their way. Look, I used to work shifts with Miral. You put him on the Hemalurgic systems, and now he’s dead. I didn’t sign up to do that.” “But you signed up,” Second insisted, striding over to the offending technician. He jabbed a finger at his chest. “You signed up for a berth on this ship; a ship run by a megacorporation.” “I didn’t sign up to get knifed by saboteurs,” the technician insisted, standing his ground. “They’re killing now. They’re dead serious. They blew up the gardens.” “What did you expect?” Second demanded. “Megacorp work pays well. But you knew the dangers. You chose to sign up despite them.” “Not like this.” No one else said anything. After a long silence, Second said, ignoring the technician who’d spoken up, “Well, you know what we have to do. Anyone who doesn’t want to do it can go to the Captain’s office and sign the papers—terminating your contract—and get off the next time we make planetfall again. Is that clear?” He spun about on his heels and eyed the rest of them. “The rest of you, get back to work. If this ship goes, we all go with her. That should be reason enough to make sure rust doesn’t happen on our watch.” My immediate thought: do we know if Maili role-claimed? Who did he role-claim to? And how many Hemalurgists do we have left? Edit: I can neither confirm nor deny pre-writing RP posts...
  21. In LG5, our Artifabrian asked us to lynch him in order to instigate discussion. It worked somewhat well for him, not very well for the first guy to put a vote on him. Both were innocent. Wash the spears — while the sun climbs high. Wash the spears — while the sun falls low. Wash the spears — Who fears to die? Wash the spears — No one I know! Valar morghulis, valar dohaeris.
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