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    YEP >:( I don't hold it against Drake, but smh y'all making me have to share a doc with Autonomy. I guess Autonomy was really terrified by the possibility of a Village backchannel doc, though I'd considered doing a fakeout and dipping to Sel instead. There's one other possibility, but not my problem
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    Wow y'all really didn't want highstorm raves smh :eyes:
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    Disastrous? No. Ruinous? Yes. Odious? No, but Szeth hopes :eyes:
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    Ruin was loose. Evgeny shook his head, slowly. They had decided it was worth the risk, of course. The destroyer of worlds, loose. Ruin was an immense destructive force. So naturally, the 17th wanted it loose as soon as possible. He stared at the small pile on the bed. So much of a life spent with the 17th, containing the Evils of the power of God himself. All for nothing now as they willingly releaed what should have been contained in the name of the one which had escaped. Fear, Evgeny thought. Fear cut the deepest, in the end. A wise fear. But still fear, no less. Still so very destructive. Worse to come now, with those clamouring for Hatred himself to be released next. In the end, he was bringing surprisingly little. Roshar first, for the highstorm raves. Perhaps others would come. Perhaps not. The Nalthian tablet chimed. Evgeny ignored it at first. But it kept on chiming. Persistent to a fault. He went over, picked it up and unlocked it, accepting the call. "Zhenya," said Ayadis. "It is true then? You are leaving Silverlight?" "Yes." There was too much left unsaid. He watched her red mask instead. Wondered how many masks you could go through, over the process over a conversation like this one. Better off keeping it simple. "In a time like this? Of all times?" "Yes," he said again. So it was disappointment, then. "Why?" "We do not set free that which was meant to be contained, Ayadis. You know this." "Autonomy is a danger," Ayadis said. "Whoever released that Shard..." "I know. And Ruin is no less one. Neither is the Shard of God's own Hatred. I understand the necessity that drives Frost, Ayadis." He smiled, cold and bitter. "After all, we are capable of doing a great many monstrous things in the name of necessity, are we not?" There would be blood. Maybe even his, if the hard questions came. "You question Frost's decisions then?" "With respect. My loyalties have remain unchanged since the day I joined." Ayadis hesitated. "It is true, then," Evgeny said. "Some have been suborned. Or you would not question." "Yes." "It is well," Evgeny said, dispassionately, "That I plan to be gone within the day." "Where are you going?" "To a place with a long memory."
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    Doesn't help v. Intent Conversion but that's the Shardic limit. Edge cases where OoA has the conversion precede getting the Shard on N0, or Non-Villagers try to get the Shard on subsequent Nights From my point of view, the Shards are Evil! This power was best cast into the fire!
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    Does Shardic immunity to conversion affect this calculus? Ty. I'm aware you'll make certain rule confusions - I just don't find you getting your own role that far off as credible. That being said, even if I were in the mind/mood to vote, which I'm not minded to, my vote would not have been on you by that juncture. There'll be more information to go on at that point, one presumes. The fundamental issue by then is just the need to decide how the backstabbing cornucopia goes, which I am firmly minded to sit out while enjoying Stormlight raves, Selish disco, Threnodic grooving, or any other party that's available. Village wincon is still clear - while vagueness due to alt wincons exists, at least it's nice to be clear on the fact that Village doesn't win with the other Big Three. TLDR; Village loses a game that the Elims themselves had a long rant list about being intrinsically Village-sided, after having lynched two Elims back-to-back and with the Elims first succeeding in killing someone N4. If even the Elims more or less had a long rant about it being Village-sided and the GM doesn't deny the balance was off, losing something like that due to rampant inactivity, refusal to gaf about the votes, refusal to vote, and refusal to send in actions. (I bracket refusal to rally the Village as I think that is definitely playstyle territory) - is fundamentally a throw, regardless of how virtuously the remaining Elims played (which they did.) Winning and losing is normal. It's best not to get attached to it. Throwing? What the hell. @Fifth Scholar Thoughts on setting up a Shardworlds Chess Tournament? :eyes: Maybe to go with the worldhopping rave party? :eyes:
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    Siiigh like k I guess this requires me to explain the fundamental plausibility thing: I think it's pretty common for players to be pretty well-versed in what they can do, as compared to basically other aspects of the rules. If you are a Researcher only (i.e. Villager), basically the only thing you are hopefully doing unless you are me because Evgeny dgaf about Shardic power was siphoning a Shard last Night. Any Shard. It's quite rare, barring edge cases like Araris the Shade Expert or Illwei the Elantrian, for players to be unaware of their own role abilities, including the limits thereof. Largely because players like roles (in most cases, resisting the urge to make bitter snarky remark here) and have a vested interest in knowing what they can do. Archer is well aware of this. This is why he consistently publicly asks players who speak a lot about a role if they're that role. That's a fundamental presumption of the same grain as what I'm laying out here. Is it knock-down? No. But I think it's a fair D1 question to ask why there's no awareness of the most crucial limit to the Researcher's ability: the charge siphon and the fact you can only do so while on Silverlight. And I think a plausible answer is: "Because you're not actually a Researcher, or you have many other things to do/track." Not saying that this is the full case on Archer (I do have other thoughts I'm not sharing because I'm not invested and interested in playing this game seriously/full-throttle) and I'm not going to bother to summarising DeTess's and TJ's cases. I explain it where it relates to my issue with you not remotely considering Turtle. Tbf I don't think it matters too much to the Turtle question - if you simply accept that multiple players, including Turtle, think Archer is sus, then the fact that Turtle actively speculates on Bavadin!Archer like it matters and you're not putting them on your Hoid or Khriss suspect list is ??? Edited to add: Like you can flag players like Fae and point out they make mistakes, which, fair, and I'd argue is less rare than our edge cases. But in general I think if you've been around in SE for a while, the odds of you doing that are pretty low. Edited to add PM:
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    He's correct - I noticed the mistranscription of your opening when I did it, which is why I started to simply c/p the notation into my GM PM so Devo can judge me harder and to save it somewhere rather than typing up the notation from scratch each time (as I've been doing.) You opened d4, I typed e4 at some point. It's Fifth, I'm not really surprised. What might entertain you more is that for a while, this was a mirror of the game I played as White to Fifth's Black in AG7. You can definitely say it's not that odd, but at the same time, it's interesting that W!me and W!you seem to think similarly, and same for B!Fifth and B!me. Edited to add: Uggggh I wanted to avoid saying anything but I failed my Will save. I'm very surprised you're not remotely considering H!Turtle or K!Turtle. I feel like the 'Archer = Bavadin' theory comes from a Hoid or Khris perspective. The framing of the post made it seem like Turtle was going to change their mind about how to handle Archer if Archer was Bavadin, but why should this matter to a Villager? Reflexively, I think the Village response if you're doubting it is: 'This is a bad argument and you are overreading this' (fair but it doesn't stop me from thinking a perspective slip happened on Archer's part), or 'You're ignoring that Archer could be Frost.' The second line of counterargument was something I obviously wasn't interested in mentioning because I don't want to invite too much speculation on a Village power role and it works iff you think it's plausible Archer simply got overwhelmed by too much to do such that he forgot the most basic element of the Researcher's ability (true in a Frost world as that'd be a Lot of Info he'd be receiving.) I also wanted to see if anyone would develop that line in response. But you get what I mean. I feel a Villager is indifferent, strictly speaking, between Bavadin/Hoid/Khris. You can't win with them, so whatever, you know? Hoid and Khris do care because they can win with Bavadin! And this is my usefulness quota for the day. Further things can screw off.
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    This will never be the conversation. No one gave a damn after the game, despite ample opportunity to speak on this. I'm also not interested in having this conversation with you now as I think it's bloody rich that suddenly this matters when it didn't when people actually had a chance to condemn it. The conversation is never happening because no one wants to have it. You want to open it in meta? I guarantee you it will die and collapse within a few posts and nothing will come out of it. No thank you. I've said my bit. I am not analysing and I refuse to be guilted or threatened or otherwise pressured into doing analysis and I do not give a damn.
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    I'm going to put my response to you in a spoiler because I'm not really pulling it, and I'm sure everyone is sick of me expecting a minimum standard of play from fellow Villagers like actually voting, participating in a goddamned LG you signed up for, and sending in actions to help your team The short of it is that I'm extremely disillusioned and demoralised and don't care to soften my words on what is explicitly motivating my abrupt 180 from my usual playstyle for anyone. So no, not gonna. Too bad. If you want to lynch me, go ahead. Y'all are taking the game seriously, that's your prerogative. I accepted this risk when I chose to just play however the hell I want and to method act everything Evgeny does. But I'm going to just RP and chill with Drake and do whatever the chulls I feel like, and right now I do not remotely feel like doing reads or analysis. Call it a case of being seriously disillusioned or demotivated. I'm sure there's probably something someone is burning to say about OOG things and gameplay but the chulls I have to give about that are in the negative and burned and withered away in the complete lack of chulls anyone had to give at all and the tepid response to seriously demoralising bad behaviour. Also hypocrisy. There's probably a nicer way to put the fact I don't care to play this game seriously, but I'm not a very nice person
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    I legitimately don't give a damn. LG94 demonstrated we genuinely do not care if players sign up for a game and refuse to play. No one will say anything about it and we accept and normalise this behaviour. In fact, we fall over ourselves to highlight every single thing the Elims did right in order to not have to say anything at all about bad player behaviour. You can think whatever you want about my alignment and take whatever action you like. In fact, I'd at least feel happy if you are Village because it'd demonstrate at least one player cares about actual anti-Village behaviour enough to do something about it rather than accepting it in complacent silence. If you're an Elim looking to score a cheap lynch on me, wow. tldr; I don't really care and it's not going to dissuade me from the path I've chosen. Wow ok quoting this one borked.
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    Pretty glaring, and makes the comment stand out even more. Unclear why this matters. Bavadin's wincon is not compatible with the Village. There's probably some world in which the Village makes some fancy deal with Bavadin and then goes on to result in a massive backstabbing fracas but frankly, not my problem, dgaf. Feeling ??? about this. You could argue the Village has a vested interest in not upsetting Bavadin because Bavadin might ally with Hoid and/or Khriss and screw the Village over in the backstabbing fracas, since they can win together, but Bavadin will probably lean into that no matter what and only a fool thinks you can control whatever Bavadin wants so this just seems to entail don't pull the damn blow Ack. No. Not my goddamned problem. Screw the Village. Oh I see you want ultimate power more, that's fine bro
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