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Well this is all rather sudden. I guess I could go...

@Moogle An interesting thought concerning how aluminum might work.

So you did. Oops.

Small clarification: Not quite. There seems to be some color loss, but certainly not the degree of Lifeless. Vivenne doesn't even recognize that Jewels is Drab for quite some time. -I'd note that this is from Lightsong's POV (with his 5th-Heightening vision and all), so the color drain was likely far far less obvious than even this description indicates. Grayer, maybe, but certainly not to the level where you'd say "hey that guy's gray!!" I'll note that you're likely on the right track so far as losing color goes, if Brandon's moderate Trollishness is to be trusted. Source:

In most circumstances, yes.

@celder Very cool. If I recall correctly I believe I'd expected as much, but confirmation is awesome.

Because. I don't recall any precedent for them just flat-out making up abilities/effects. Especially ones that tie into existing parts of the magic system: are you telling me that we should also believe that Team Sanderson would let them make up the type of metal/attributes that go into the Blessing of Presence? EDIT: On further thought there has been a tad of inconsistency historically between the MAG and other sources regarding the Blessings, but so deeply misidentifying copper's hemalurgic properties goes beyond a mere typo. I'll stand by the statement that I think the MAG safe enough to trust here, especially in light of just now getting a new WoB that's telling us that something hemalurgic should be able to steal "Memory".

Thanks for the WoB. I'm still pretty much okay with things as they are, though. We've known since forever that copper Hemalurgic spikes steal intelligence/memory (this based on the MAG, granted, but I think it can be trusted not to have just made up the Hemalurgic use of a metal out of whole cloth). Perhaps it's just the case that no matter how skillful the Hemalurgist, you just can't get granular enough to do anything on the level of nuance that Vasher did? -Note that another possibility that I've been entertaining is that hCopper might just steal the capacity for intelligence/memory, rather than the memories themselves. The Blessing of Presence is made from a pair of copper spikes, after all, and we don't see TenSoon reliving other people's memories: instead we see him with a more resilient mind and an unnaturally sharp memory in and of himself.

I'm having trouble re-finding the WoB, but wasn't it a bit more nuanced than that? I seem to recall that the question was about altering memories, rather than stealing them wholesale. Also I would think it fair for Brandon to say something to the effect of "you can't use Hemalurgy to alter memories like Vasher did" with an implicit understanding that "like Vasher did" means not doing massive amounts of incidental damage.

I'd been waiting on Hero or Phantom to post the WoBs here so as not to steal their thunder; no harm meant on my part by not posting them immediately.

What is this about Philotics? Is this a statement of fact (in which case I'd very much like to see the full WoB) or simply an opinion?

@Dent Lindel's second question was phrased "is X true, or is Y true?" and Brandon answered it "Yes": Brandon failed to say which of the options was correct, even leaving open the possibility that both are true. The logical "or" returns true if one or both of its terms is true: thus answering "yes" to an "or" question that's pretty obviously looking for a choice between the two options is a mathematician's answer.

Ah the mathematician's answer. Brandon is fond of those at times.

It's a bookmarks folder on my browser, actually.

Well it seems you've got the gist of it right, then, though the finicky thing about it is that time bubbles really don't just affect time, they also look like they likely affect motion in somewhat oblique ways, as I cover in the OP regarding frame of reference.

I think I get what you're saying? So your saying that, relative to the time bubble, the speeds of objects aren't affected?

Well you say that about speed not being directly affected and it sounds like the kind of thing that should make sense, but then we get into frame of reference issues. Also, I think even in the naive case that doesn't examine frame of reference we end up with speed being affected, since it's a function of movement over time, and time is being affected.

I think you're talking about Pulsers here (the one's with bubbles that slow things down), but as for the point itself: maaaaaybe? Probably not? Heat and light are of those set of things that are weird/possibly-handwaved with time bubbles. You'd have to hunt down some of Satsuoni's old posts if you really wanted to get into it, but you can also pile air pressure on top of it if you really want to have some fun with the difficulties/counterintuitivities (totally a word) involved. The thing is, it looks like a fair amount of this stuff that should really change (temperature, light intensity/wavelength, pressure) inside the bubble if you really picture a part of space-time where everything happens faster/slower than everything around it doesn't do what it "should". Temperature is one of the less-counter-intuitive ones, though. So you're saying that, since temperature is essentially a measure of how fast things are moving/vibrating (by my poor-science-understanding understanding), and since things in a slow-bubble are moving slower, then they're cooler? On the barest level this makes sense. Assuming some exemption from time-bubble-weirdness for the sake of science, it's my understanding that a laser thermometer pointed into a slow-bubble should return a significantly lower temperature than a mercury thermometer that's within the bubble. But that mercury thermometer is the thing. We've seen no sign that the people/things on the inside, relative to each other and the time/space they are inhabiting, have slowed at all. It would follow from this that we really shouldn't expect any change in temperature from their perspective. This does raise the question of how these objects should interact with one-another across the boundary of the bubble. For awhile there I'd dismissed the question because we have that whole "you're either all the way in or all the way out" WoB. But then I got the punching WoB (the one that says that your arm can be distinctly outside of the bubble but still affected by it), and things get a bit weird. Because if your arm really is "moving", say, 10x faster than the rest of the world, won't it be 10x hotter? I'd suspect that this isn't how it works in practice because reasonability, but it's another thing to be explained/explored. -- The sciency question ontop of all of this, of course, is the question of radiative heat. Someone inside a speed bubble should be getting an order of magnitude more heat from the sun, fires, etc. per-second versus those outside of it, and so cook in short order. To a lesser extent those inside slow-bubbles will be getting less heat per second, while it seems that light is leaving the bubble at the "ordinary" real-world-fast rate. It's odd.

*Nods sagely* Though myself I'm conflicted. I was thinking Electrum + Lerasium as a no brainer, but then we got the 3rd die and now there's some reason to go either Electrum + Aluminum/Duralumin or Electrum + Bendalloy/Cadmium, to fill out some quadrants.

If we take the parallels with how the metals work with Allomancy far enough, then "The chemical and color signature needs to be of a specific variety to provide the proper key to accessing the power of transformation" could be read as telling us that soulcasting in particular needs this "key" to further focus its power. It makes a certain amount of sense if we're to assume that soulcasting accesses some external set of ideals for what "meat" or "stone" or "metal" is: that would be the only surgebinding so far that either wasn't pretty one-note conceptually (see: Windrunning) or based more fully in the spirit/mind/visualizations of its user (see: Lightweaving). Soulcasting is the one that needs to go pretty much entirely to an outside source, assuming that any given soulcaster doesn't know the actual chemical makeup of "meat" or "smoke" themselves.

So far as the first scenario goes, it's unlikely. One of the primary motivators for why so much handwavium has to be burned for light and timebubbles is because of Peter's concern that a guy with a flashlight could kill everyone around him by putting up a speed bubble. Just changing how people perceive the light wouldn't have any effect on whether or not their cells are cooking.

And so another Seeking quote: thanks, that question's been on the rolls for a bit now.

It's in the FAQ; the price of shipping is also included in the international order: it doesn't matter what country it's going to. Hence the rather high price/set-requirement.

I wouldn't pick "spews" as the ideal verb here. That aside, this one was rather low-hanging fruit, since the term is used numerous times in the books.

That'd be the riddens, Dent.