mathiau Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Frustration said: How does the cataclysm of Ashyn indicate that it's more Odium than Honor Yeah, especially with how insanely destructive Soucalsting can be with the right knowledge and how insane undbound Adhesion and abound reverse Lashings should be 1 hour ago, Frustration said: Fused are red meaning they use investiture that Odium stole from another shard Note that Lift and Renarin don't get red eyes so it's not as straightforward as you might think 1 hour ago, DSCrankshaw said: Because humans didn't follow Honor until after they came to Roshar. They brought Surgebinding to Roshar along with Odium. Doesn't mean they didn't use the power of Honour and Cultivation, we've seen tons of people that didn't follow Preservation use Allomancy. (though it's confirmed some humans on Ashyn were Voidbinders) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frustration Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, mathiau said: Note that Lift and Renarin don't get red eyes so it's not as straightforward as you might think Glys is red and Lift is closer to a compounder than corrupted. 6 minutes ago, mathiau said: Doesn't mean they didn't use the power of Honour and Cultivation, we've seen tons of people that didn't follow Preservation use Allomancy. (though it's confirmed some humans on Ashyn were Voidbinders) Where did you get that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathiau Posted April 20, 2021 Report Share Posted April 20, 2021 Quote Where did you get that? I couldn't find the WoB I was talking about, thought I found that Quote Blightsong In Oathbringer it is revealed that the humans who originally came to Roshar were the first ones to be named Voidbringers and that they carried magical powers. The Stormfather also implies that modern Surgebinding didn't exist before the Heralds. Were the original powers that the humans possessed Voidbinding? Brandon Sanderson So, we're getting into lots of interesting definitional problems here. And also the ways that different entities perceive the definitions of different terms. I will answer this question specifically as we do the flashbacks from Ash and Taln's viewpoints. So you've got a long ways to wait. But understand that definitions are not always-- the way that people define things cannot always be trusted. That said, humans were not using powers from Honor originally. Skype Q&A (Oct. 8, 2018) Also Quote Chaos You've recently said that Rosharans call everything Surgebinding. So my question is: does Khriss call what the Fused do "Surgebinding"? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Chaos Interesting. We still don't know what Voidbinding is, but we'll get there eventually, I'm sure. Brandon Sanderson You will. Shardcast Interview (Jan. 23, 2021) Quote TheFoxQR (paraphrased) Is there temporal symmetry in between the Surge-binding and void-binding charts, from the front and back covers of The Way of Kings? As in, Surgebinding is a re-emerging system of the past, vs Voidbinding being a newly emerging system that will fully exist in the future? Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) You can assume that Voidbinding has not been fully explored, but that parts of it have been looked into in the past. So I wouldn't say that temporal symmetry fully holds. General Reddit 2019 (Aug. 3, 2019) So I think it's likely at least some of them where Voidbinders 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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