Moash's Eyes

[UpLifted he/him]

At the end of RoW, Moash appears to be physically blind, and it appears to be permanent. Without getting into the reasons for his blindness, the question remains, what is Moash's character arc from now on? Will he just go out with a whimper and no bang? I really hope not. He's too well developed a villain  for him to go out like this. So here is my theory:

At the end of the book we see El spike Lezian. This indicates that he is either competent in, or experimenting with Hemalurgy. We know from Khriss's notes that Hemalurgy has vast implications cosmere-wise. All that being said, my theory is that Moash will find his way to El at some point in book 5 and El will spike Moash, Inquisitor style, and this is how he will regain his ability to fight and be a villain with style once again. I imagine that with the spikes, he would be able to see investiture or he will be able to see into the cognitive realm in some way. 

I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this!

[Kitch]

Was that a spike? I had gotten the impression that it was a anti-voidlight knife and El was just using the notes from RoW to create a new knife. He needed somebody to test it out on. 

[mathiau he/him]

1 hour ago, Kitch said:

Was that a spike? I had gotten the impression that it was a anti-voidlight knife and El was just using the notes from RoW to create a new knife. He needed somebody to test it out on. 

It's what I understood too, he did seems to have hemalurgic spikes in him though

[Kitch]

If I remember correctly it's mentioned that El incorporates metal into his body on each resurrection. My first thought was that they were metal minds rather than spikes. Getting charged spikes and keeping them around while keeping those charge for millennia would be difficult. How I read it was that the carapace is being replaced by metal...so less of a spiking and more of a layering.

But if they are metal minds, they have no loss. He could be constantly charging these metal minds and passing them from body to body, getting massive stored attributes. 

 

Though how he would have become a feruchemist....who knows. Might be related to how he lost his rhythms.

 

Or it could be those bits of metal is fabrial technology and he is experimenting on himself, using his own gemheart.

 

Really though we don't know enough about El. But I'm pretty sure that knife with a gem was a anti-voidlight knife and not a spike. 

[mathiau he/him]

1 hour ago, Kitch said:

If I remember correctly it's mentioned that El incorporates metal into his body on each resurrection. My first thought was that they were metal minds rather than spikes. Getting charged spikes and keeping them around while keeping those charge for millennia would be difficult. How I read it was that the carapace is being replaced by metal...so less of a spiking and more of a layering.

But if they are metal minds, they have no loss. He could be constantly charging these metal minds and passing them from body to body, getting massive stored attributes.

Though how he would have become a feruchemist....who knows. Might be related to how he lost his rhythms.

Kelsier seems to have become a fullborn so it's possible there's a way, my hypothesis was Ettmetal but that wouldn't have been possible less than 300 years ago.

Spikes don't decay when in fresh blood, if singers manage to get his body back after he's killed (which they would also have to if they're metalminds) and they resurected El quickly enough, he wouldn't lose anything. The advantage of this theory is it would explain why he lost his rhythms: he's to much connected to Ruin to hear them

Also it's possible the metal is both spikes and metalminds

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Or it could be those bits of metal is fabrial technology and he is experimenting on himself, using his own gemheart.

It does seems possible indeed

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Really though we don't know enough about El

Definitely.

Edited January 1, 2021 by mathiau
Kelsier not Kal *facepalm*

[Rorzikel]

1 hour ago, mathiau said:

Kaladin seems to have become a fullborn

I'm a little confused on how you came to this conclusion honestly. We don't see Kal consume metals or charge up pieces of metal with attributes or compound. He has a very strong link to Honor and was overcome by some kind of Odious influence after Teft's death, but neither of those need or seem to indicate Kal gaining another world's magic systems without any Connection to that world or means of accomplishing it like lerasium, medallions, a number of spikes.

[mathiau he/him]

1 minute ago, MyrmidonOfAchilles said:

I'm a little confused on how you came to this conclusion honestly. We don't see Kal consume metals or charge up pieces of metal with attributes or compound. He has a very strong link to Honor and was overcome by some kind of Odious influence after Teft's death, but neither of those need or seem to indicate Kal gaining another world's magic systems without any Connection to that world or means of accomplishing it like lerasium, medallions, a number of spikes.

I meant to write Kelsier

[Rorzikel]

Just now, mathiau said:

I meant to write Kelsier

Ah ok, that makes more sense haha.