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Kaladin declares that he can't save everyone, and it's one of the most heartwarming moments in the book. Ironically, this leads to him getting the ability to save more people.

Todd declares that he's going to save everyone, and it's one of the most chilling lines in the book. Ironically, his plans for "saving everyone" would lead to mass death.

I know it's been said before that Mr. T is the anti-Windrunner, but here it's practically text.

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I think he is more of an anti bondsmith actually.  Being a bondsmith is about accepting others and coming to consensus.  Dalinar's arc has been about learning to convince others that he is a man worth following. Taravangian is an, admittedly enlightened, despot.  He has power and uses that for the benefits of others but this means that he feels that he has the right to do what he thinks is right without input of anyone else.

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He's anti- a lot of Orders, I guess.

edit: though I'd disagree with you on the Bondsmith thing. Gavilar was a proto-Bondsmith, after all. In the same way that you can have badguy Skybreakers and badguy Dustbringers, I think it would be perfectly possibly to have a tyrant Bondsmith.

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Did you notice how his chapter icon turns upside down based on if he is stupid or smart?

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9 hours ago, Xaladin said:

Did you notice how his chapter icon turns upside down based on if he is stupid or smart?

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Yet another amazing detail I didn't notice until it was pointed out to me.

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On 12/5/2020 at 8:17 PM, Necessary Ookla said:

edit: though I'd disagree with you on the Bondsmith thing. Gavilar was a proto-Bondsmith, after all. In the same way that you can have badguy Skybreakers and badguy Dustbringers, I think it would be perfectly possibly to have a tyrant Bondsmith.

I don't think that radiants have to be nice or generally even good people.  However I do think that to form a real connection you have to let your guard down and trust someone.  I think a large part of the reason Gavilar had so much trouble was that he never really trusted anyone.  He found people that fit the mold he wanted and put them in places where they were useful to him.  Gavilar's style of rule was a major reason Elhokar had so much trouble and he himself even questioned it in Dalinar's flashbacks.

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