High prince of geeks Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm just saying, the fact that it was written in a new language, seemingly random but with obvious moments of clarity. And seeing as it was written by a practically mad man it will probably have a lot of lies hidden as truths. If he and shallen ever run across it they will find out a whole lot more then Tannavast ever did or would. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 ...Tannavast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostlander Posted June 3, 2014 Report Share Posted June 3, 2014 Disregarding the Tanavast (Taravangian?) bit, I would really like to see Pattern "do his thing" with the Diagram. And we've only seen fragments of the Diagram. It's almost like the narrative was set up this way; Pattern's talents have only been hinted at so far. I could see this playing out as espionage or a cooperative last-ditch effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalbusker Posted June 10, 2014 Report Share Posted June 10, 2014 I kinda worry what effect exposure to the Diagram would have on the little guy. He might rupture a fractal or something. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaellok Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 I kinda worry what effect exposure to the Diagram would have on the little guy. He might rupture a fractal or something. Psh. He's made of sturdier stuff than that. Pattern'll be the one pitying Mr. T, not the other way around! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terisen Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 I kinda worry what effect exposure to the Diagram would have on the little guy. He might rupture a fractal or something. Is it possible for spren to OD? Makes me wonder a bit about Pattern's predictive capabilities. Seems to me that part of what Taravagian was doing was picking out patterns in human behavior and what not. Given enough information, could Pattern give a decent plan to follow? It wouldn't be on the level of the Diagram, for sure, but I'm curious. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted June 11, 2014 Report Share Posted June 11, 2014 Pattern being able to read and correct the Diagram would be a very interesting conflict. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftucker0525 Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Well it kind of depends on whether or not it realy is a pattern, i mean sure Mr.T developed a new language and whatnot but just because his super enhanced brain can build a language from the bottom on up doesnt necessarily mean it has any legitimate grammatical structure, only that in some abstract way that it made sense to him. I know there was mention of a key that Mr.T wrote on the Diagram, so Pattern could probably decode it, however Mr.T was operating on such a high level of intelligence that it might take someone of equally high intelligence to improve or correct the Diagram. I guess at this point I'm conceding that Pattern can read it, but how would he be able to change it? The Diagram doesnt really have all the evidence that is needed in order for someone to be able to guess upon human behaviors, that all came from Mr.T himself, so without the requisite knowledge of human behavior, which Pattern obviously lacks, no further deductions can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMartigan Posted June 12, 2014 Report Share Posted June 12, 2014 Good point, jefftucker. Without the requisite knowledge of human behavior, emotion, etc, I feel Pattern would come to many of the same deductions Mr. T came to when he went Super Saiyan with the intelligence factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedelpen Posted June 19, 2014 Report Share Posted June 19, 2014 Well it kind of depends on whether or not it realy is a pattern, i mean sure Mr.T developed a new language and whatnot but just because his super enhanced brain can build a language from the bottom on up doesnt necessarily mean it has any legitimate grammatical structure, only that in some abstract way that it made sense to him. I know there was mention of a key that Mr.T wrote on the Diagram, so Pattern could probably decode it, however Mr.T was operating on such a high level of intelligence that it might take someone of equally high intelligence to improve or correct the Diagram. I guess at this point I'm conceding that Pattern can read it, but how would he be able to change it? The Diagram doesnt really have all the evidence that is needed in order for someone to be able to guess upon human behaviors, that all came from Mr.T himself, so without the requisite knowledge of human behavior, which Pattern obviously lacks, no further deductions can be made. Taravangian's assistants and scholars were able to decode enough of the Diagram to understand the plan and have him execute it. I suspect that Pattern would have a far easier time than a team of scholars. It might take a little bit, perhaps a full hour to decode the easy bits and 24 hours to get the vast majority (what they've managed so far), and he could probably have the whole thing fully understood (well, translated) in a week. I do wonder whether Pattern could take in all of that information and see the patterns and then extrapolate far better than Taravangian has managed to do since then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leinton Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Imagine Pattern vibrating to the tune of Ride of the Valkyries. This is appropriate for the level of spazzing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostlander Posted June 23, 2014 Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 Given that Pattern is there to study human beings and is excellent at understanding patterns, Pattern and Shallan may be able to update the Diagram in the absence of another super-day for Mr. T. Or they might find a game-changing piece of information. It might not happen soon, as Pattern still has some learning to do, but it's hard to imagine that Pattern and Shallan wouldn't get at least a look at the Diagram. Especially after the work they did in Amaram's house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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