Imperial Nomic: The Shattered Plains

[xinoehp512 he/him]

53 minutes ago, Chasmgoat said:

The Law was posted in this thread to be confirmed because it was added to the original post, If it was added, it is being declared as approved. The law of Anti-secrecy only needs it to be revealed it was accepted, it does not need to be accepted in a new post. Besides, doesn't this show it was accepted? also, at the time of Hoid "winning", the law of antisecrecy was not established yet, so the law did not have to be revealed at the time, so at the time it was legal.

The text of the law.

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Anti-Secrecy Law: All rule approval/disapprovals, title appointments, sphere transactions, or other alterations to the state of the game must be posted in the thread to be legally binding. This rule applies retroactively.

All rule approvals. Experience's "approval" was in the PM, and therefore was not legally binding. 

And yes, it is "was". That's what "applies retroactively" means.

1 hour ago, Chasmgoat said:

as for "Taken Over", The regent is being regarded as having the kings abilities, but the king has Ultimate authority, even over the regent. So, I would argue that it was legally approved.

We could argue this back and forth quite a bit.  It doesn't really matter, though, thanks to the Anti-Secrecy rule.

[Chasmgoat he/him]

ok, what I was trying to say was that the law of anti-secrecy does not matter since at the time of me giving hoid 1000 spheres, it was not established and so if all circumstances were legal then the law of anti-secrecy does not matter since it was never created.

Also, I think I am going to limit my posts here because I am starting to get kind of angry... (not at anyone personally)

[LukeWasTaken he/him]

What chasm is trying to say is that when I won the game, the anti-secrecy law had not been passed, meaning that it wouldn't matter what it says now. 

30 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

We could argue this back and forth quite a bit.  It doesn't really matter, though, thanks to the Anti-Secrecy rule.

So we can argue this back and forth and it does matter because the rule did not apply. The problem is the rules are not defined well enough and we have no one who is supposed to interpret them.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

38 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

What chasm is trying to say is that when I won the game, the anti-secrecy law had not been passed, meaning that it wouldn't matter what it says now. 

First of all, you didn't win the game even if the law existed, due to you still being Highprince Aladar. (You can change that now if you want.)

But even if you had, what says that rules can't continue to be made once somebody wins?  

Also, I will race for the gemheart and claim five spheres for doing so.

[LukeWasTaken he/him]

2 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

First of all, you didn't win the game even if the law existed, due to you still being Highprince Aladar. (You can change that now if you want.)

I was not Highprince Aladar, I had changed and there was no law stopping me from doing so. It's like saying I can't cross the street until the law specifically says I can.

4 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

But even if you had, what says that rules can't continue to be made once somebody wins?  

As for this, in the first post it says:

"The Game will end in three months on Janurary 28th at 5:00 PM if no players have reached 1,000 spheres. If this happens, the player with the most spheres will win."

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

37 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

I was not Highprince Aladar, I had changed and there was no law stopping me from doing so. It's like saying I can't cross the street until the law specifically says I can.

As for this, in the first post it says:

"The Game will end in three months on Janurary 28th at 5:00 PM if no players have reached 1,000 spheres. If this happens, the player with the most spheres will win."

It could be argued that you couldn't. It has been argued and as the amendment has been approved it does not apply anymore, so you haven't won. Stop trying to use loopholes.

I propose The Rule of Stalling: If a new law has not been posted in the entirety of the previous page the King, Regent, Temporary Regent or Voted Regent may declare a certain player or players as "stalling". If a player is declared stalling said player cannot post for the remainder of the page. This is stop needless arguments and spending time on things no longer a part of the game.

Edited November 6, 2020 by Somebody from Sel

[LukeWasTaken he/him]

2 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

It could be argued that you couldn't it has been argued and as the amendment has been approved it does not apply anymore you haven't one stop trying to use loopholes

Wouldn't you say that loopholes are a part of the game? This is a game of laws, is it not? I mean, if the point isn't to use loopholes and outsmart your opponents, then what is?

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

Just now, HoidWasTaken said:

Wouldn't you say that loopholes are a part of the game? This is a game of laws, is it not? I mean, if the point isn't to use loopholes and outsmart your opponents, then what is?

@xinoehp512 pls approve my law in the post Hour just quoted and declare him as stalling

Now Hoid loopholes are a part of this game and we are using loopholes to make you not win. What I am saying is don't use loopholes that have been disproven as we have with yours

[LukeWasTaken he/him]

My loophole has not been disproven! I have already won the game!

[Chasmgoat he/him]

4 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

@xinoehp512 pls approve my law in the post Hour just quoted and declare him as stalling

Now Hoid loopholes are a part of this game and we are using loopholes to make you not win. What I am saying is don't use loopholes that have been disproven as we have with yours

The law is automatically rejected since it does not contain a , you can try again in two pages

[LukeWasTaken he/him]

So, the first thing that happened was Chasmgoat used the Spanreed to get his Law accepted before the anti-secrecy law was passed. The law states, "At any time, a highprince may reward anyone working beneath them with any number of spheres. To do this though, a highprince must have a number of spheres removed from himself." Then, I joined house Sadeas from Aladar. The law of affiliation does not prohibit this action. Then, he used his law to give me 1000 spheres. The Game has ended.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

56 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

The Game will end in three months on Janurary 28th at 5:00 PM if no players have reached 1,000 spheres. If this happens, the player with the most spheres will win.

Well, it's not January 28th at 5:00 PM yet, so... guess the game isn't over!

24 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

Wouldn't you say that loopholes are a part of the game? This is a game of laws, is it not? I mean, if the point isn't to use loopholes and outsmart your opponents, then what is?

You may have outsmarted us, but we outsmarted your outsmarting.

10 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

So, the first thing that happened was Chasmgoat used the Spanreed to get his Law accepted before the anti-secrecy law was passed. The law states, "At any time, a highprince may reward anyone working beneath them with any number of spheres. To do this though, a highprince must have a number of spheres removed from himself." Then, I joined house Sadeas from Aladar. The law of affiliation does not prohibit this action. Then, he used his law to give me 1000 spheres. The Game has ended.

See, first of all, the legality of Experience passing the law in the first place is in question, as he had (at the time) handed off power to the Regent. Secondly, the wording of the affiliation law let it be interpreted in such a way as to prohibit you re-affiliating.

1 hour ago, HoidWasTaken said:

I was not Highprince Aladar, I had changed and there was no law stopping me from doing so. It's like saying I can't cross the street until the law specifically says I can.

See, it's not that we're saying you can't do it because no law allows it. We're saying that the previous version of the affiliation law actively prohibited it. And thirdly, there is no law that says the game ends when somebody reaches 1000 spheres. Therefore, regardless of how the previous loopholes played out, the Anti-Secrecy Law would still retroactively nullify the law and any potential victory derived from it. 

22 minutes ago, HoidWasTaken said:

used the Spanreed

Was it the Spanreed? I got the idea that it was inspired by the Spanreed, but didn't actually use it. That would have required him becoming Captain of the Radiants, setting the price of a Spanreed, and purchasing a spanreed all in secret. I guess it doesn't matter now, though.  

It was a clever idea, I'll give you that. I never even thought of using PM's to sneak laws in behind other player's backs! And the sly wording of the rule was also clever- I didn't even notice the loophole until you cited it. 

Nonetheless, it would seem that a majority of the other players think that the loopholes found to counter your strategy are sufficient enough to render it ineffective - including the Regent. Because of this, I would advise letting it go. I'm sure there will be other loopholes for you to find/create as the game progresses. 

17 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

It could be argued that you couldn't. It has been argued and as the amendment has been approved it does not apply anymore, so you haven't won. Stop trying to use loopholes.

I propose The Rule of Stalling: If a new law has not been posted in the entirety of the previous page the King, Regent, Temporary Regent or Voted Regent may declare a certain player or players as "stalling". If a player is declared stalling said player cannot post for the remainder of the page. This is stop needless arguments and spending time on things no longer a part of the game.

11 minutes ago, Somebody from Sel said:

@xinoehp512 pls approve my law in the post Hour just quoted and declare him as stalling

Now Hoid loopholes are a part of this game and we are using loopholes to make you not win. What I am saying is don't use loopholes that have been disproven as we have with yours

Well, first of all, I'm not the one responsible for accepting proposals at the moment.  @Aspiring Writer hasn't been made unavailable yet, as far as I know. Secondly, Chasm's right, you forgot your ninja. Thirdly, I think this rule could use some improving. For one, you don't need to list out all the roles of responsibility: the Regent rule already gives Regents of all types the powers of the King. Except... wait one sec, let me check... hmm, no, not the Voted Regent. We might want to fix that. 

 

I propose an amendment to The Regent: The King must select someone to become a Regent and must always have a Regent at all times. He may change who is Regent whenever he chooses to. If the King is aware he will be unavailable or absent for longer than three days, he must announce and appoint the Regent during his absence, stating "I appoint the current Regent to take over my position during my absence of (insert predicted number of days)." while tagging the Regent, who will take over the duties of the King until they return. Once the King returns, he must state "I have returned and will be taking back my power" while tagging the Regent in power. If the King is absent for more than five days, the chosen Regent will automatically take over until his return. The King can reject any rules that the Regent approves in his absence upon his return, and vice versa. He may also change either declaration to one of obsolescence. The Regent has no other powers other than taking over for the King. 

The Regent will have all of the privileges, responsibilities, and limitations of the King while serving as a replacement, as well as keeping track of all proposals and amendments and whether or not they approved or rejected them for the king upon their return. Failure to do so will culminate in a fine of five spheres per proposal and amendment not kept track of. The Regent must also announce a replacement in the case he also is made unavailable, where that person will become the Temporary Regent until either the Regent or King has returned. Temporary Regent has all the powers and responsibilities of the Regent upon the Regent's absence. If a Regent and a Temporary Regent are both not chosen or available, the players can vote a Voted-Regent into place. The Voted-Regent will carry all the powers and responsibilities of the Regent and can keep power even if the chosen Temporary Regent returns, though they must give back power once the Regent or King returns.

The Regent cannot earn or lose spheres in their time in power but will be given ten spheres for each day of keeping track of proposals upon the King's return. Every proposal that Regent, Temporary Regent approves and the King rejects or vice versa will result in a fine of one sphere per proposal. The King can decide to offer more or fewer spheres to the Regents for their time in power and can mitigate the one sphere fine, but cannot increase the fine.

[Chasmgoat he/him]

hey everyone, I am going to have a lot of school in the upcoming weeks and will not have as much time so I doubt I will be posting here for a while. To make my exit smooth, I (if I can) renounce all titles I currently hold. whether or not Hoid becomes the new highprince is dependent on your views of certain laws.  I have had a lot of fun in this thread and the loophole, while sly, was a mistake on my part since the main goal of this thread is mostly to have fun rather than win at any cost, I realize that many of you would like to keep playing, If anyone has anything to say to me, please ping me so I get the message.

sincerely (even though I don't need this since it is a thread),

Chasmgoat

[Aspiring Writer]

Gone for two hours and I'm already panicking to respond to everything!

3 hours ago, Chasmgoat said:

ok, what I was trying to say was that the law of anti-secrecy does not matter since at the time of me giving hoid 1000 spheres, it was not established and so if all circumstances were legal then the law of anti-secrecy does not matter since it was never created.

Also, I think I am going to limit my posts here because I am starting to get kind of angry... (not at anyone personally)

I relate to this statement. Go take some time to calm down come back. Believe me, it helps. 

 

2 hours ago, HoidWasTaken said:

What chasm is trying to say is that when I won the game, the anti-secrecy law had not been passed, meaning that it wouldn't matter what it says now. 

So we can argue this back and forth and it does matter because the rule did not apply. The problem is the rules are not defined well enough and we have no one who is supposed to interpret them.

Interpretation on the meaning of the wording of a law is up to the players, but things not outright stated would be up to the King and currently the Regent, aka me, as well as King's Wit I believe.

 

1 hour ago, HoidWasTaken said:

I was not Highprince Aladar, I had changed and there was no law stopping me from doing so. It's like saying I can't cross the street until the law specifically says I can.

As for this, in the first post it says:

"The Game will end in three months on Janurary 28th at 5:00 PM if no players have reached 1,000 spheres. If this happens, the player with the most spheres will win."

Hoid, the problem here is there is no law that gives you the power to change, but there is an interpretation of a law that says you can't. Now you could have made a proposal to make this a power, but you all assumed this was something you could do, so you didn't, and this is a lesson to everyone, don't go by chance, make proposals so that way nobody can prevent your victory.

 

1 hour ago, Somebody from Sel said:

It could be argued that you couldn't. It has been argued and as the amendment has been approved it does not apply anymore, so you haven't won. Stop trying to use loopholes.

I propose The Rule of Stalling: If a new law has not been posted in the entirety of the previous page the King, Regent, Temporary Regent or Voted Regent may declare a certain player or players as "stalling". If a player is declared stalling said player cannot post for the remainder of the page. This is stop needless arguments and spending time on things no longer a part of the game.

Rejected- Despite the Ninga rule thing, I would have rejected it regardless. I don't like stopping people from discussing their points, especially when that point is deciding whether or not the game continues. They have every right to make their points as that is part of the game. While we may get frustrated at them making those points, remember they are also frustrated at what was an easy win being taken away and are trying to get it back, as is the spirit of this game of backstabbing and politicking. 

 

1 hour ago, HoidWasTaken said:

Wouldn't you say that loopholes are a part of the game? This is a game of laws, is it not? I mean, if the point isn't to use loopholes and outsmart your opponents, then what is?

100% percent is. Loopholes are a part and there is no denying that. 

 

1 hour ago, Somebody from Sel said:

@xinoehp512 pls approve my law in the post Hour just quoted and declare him as stalling

Now Hoid loopholes are a part of this game and we are using loopholes to make you not win. What I am saying is don't use loopholes that have been disproven as we have with yours

1 hour ago, HoidWasTaken said:

My loophole has not been disproven! I have already won the game!

Your base for winning brings up lots of uncertainties with the time the law was approved, whether or not you had the power to change, and many other factors which have made it so I have decided that the law is being rendered mute until I get fundamental proof of when it was approved and more. The law came at a really weird time and because of that, we have decided to default it to not counting the victory, as well as us deciding you cannot switch allergies and there is nothing giving you the power to do so and even an interpretation saying you can't which outweighs nothing saying you can't do it.

 

1 hour ago, HoidWasTaken said:

So, the first thing that happened was Chasmgoat used the Spanreed to get his Law accepted before the anti-secrecy law was passed. The law states, "At any time, a highprince may reward anyone working beneath them with any number of spheres. To do this though, a highprince must have a number of spheres removed from himself." Then, I joined house Sadeas from Aladar. The law of affiliation does not prohibit this action. Then, he used his law to give me 1000 spheres. The Game has ended.

1 point for- it does not prohibit it

1 point against- it does not grant that power

1 point against- there is an interpretation that says you may not be allowed to.

2-1 I need to decide things logically, and there is more argument against then for.

38 minutes ago, xinoehp512 said:

Well, it's not January 28th at 5:00 PM yet, so... guess the game isn't over!

You may have outsmarted us, but we outsmarted your outsmarting.

See, first of all, the legality of Experience passing the law in the first place is in question, as he had (at the time) handed off power to the Regent. Secondly, the wording of the affiliation law let it be interpreted in such a way as to prohibit you re-affiliating.

See, it's not that we're saying you can't do it because no law allows it. We're saying that the previous version of the affiliation law actively prohibited it. And thirdly, there is no law that says the game ends when somebody reaches 1000 spheres. Therefore, regardless of how the previous loopholes played out, the Anti-Secrecy Law would still retroactively nullify the law and any potential victory derived from it. 

Was it the Spanreed? I got the idea that it was inspired by the Spanreed, but didn't actually use it. That would have required him becoming Captain of the Radiants, setting the price of a Spanreed, and purchasing a spanreed all in secret. I guess it doesn't matter now, though.  

It was a clever idea, I'll give you that. I never even thought of using PM's to sneak laws in behind other player's backs! And the sly wording of the rule was also clever- I didn't even notice the loophole until you cited it. 

Nonetheless, it would seem that a majority of the other players think that the loopholes found to counter your strategy are sufficient enough to render it ineffective - including the Regent. Because of this, I would advise letting it go. I'm sure there will be other loopholes for you to find/create as the game progresses. 

Well, first of all, I'm not the one responsible for accepting proposals at the moment.  @Aspiring Writer hasn't been made unavailable yet, as far as I know. Secondly, Chasm's right, you forgot your ninja. Thirdly, I think this rule could use some improving. For one, you don't need to list out all the roles of responsibility: the Regent rule already gives Regents of all types the powers of the King. Except... wait one sec, let me check... hmm, no, not the Voted Regent. We might want to fix that. 

 

I propose an amendment to The Regent: The King must select someone to become a Regent and must always have a Regent at all times. He may change who is Regent whenever he chooses to. If the King is aware he will be unavailable or absent for longer than three days, he must announce and appoint the Regent during his absence, stating "I appoint the current Regent to take over my position during my absence of (insert predicted number of days)." while tagging the Regent, who will take over the duties of the King until they return. Once the King returns, he must state "I have returned and will be taking back my power" while tagging the Regent in power. If the King is absent for more than five days, the chosen Regent will automatically take over until his return. The King can reject any rules that the Regent approves in his absence upon his return, and vice versa. He may also change either declaration to one of obsolescence. The Regent has no other powers other than taking over for the King. 

The Regent will have all of the privileges, responsibilities, and limitations of the King while serving as a replacement, as well as keeping track of all proposals and amendments and whether or not they approved or rejected them for the king upon their return. Failure to do so will culminate in a fine of five spheres per proposal and amendment not kept track of. The Regent must also announce a replacement in the case he also is made unavailable, where that person will become the Temporary Regent until either the Regent or King has returned. Temporary Regent has all the powers and responsibilities of the Regent upon the Regent's absence. If a Regent and a Temporary Regent are both not chosen or available, the players can vote a Voted-Regent into place. The Voted-Regent will carry all the powers and responsibilities of the Regent and can keep power even if the chosen Temporary Regent returns, though they must give back power once the Regent or King returns.

The Regent cannot earn or lose spheres in their time in power but will be given ten spheres for each day of keeping track of proposals upon the King's return. Every proposal that Regent, Temporary Regent approves and the King rejects or vice versa will result in a fine of one sphere per proposal. The King can decide to offer more or fewer spheres to the Regents for their time in power and can mitigate the one sphere fine, but cannot increase the fine.

Approved- and yeah, I agree with everything on here.

 

27 minutes ago, Chasmgoat said:

hey everyone, I am going to have a lot of school in the upcoming weeks and will not have as much time so I doubt I will be posting here for a while. To make my exit smooth, I (if I can) renounce all titles I currently hold. whether or not Hoid becomes the new highprince is dependent on your views of certain laws.  I have had a lot of fun in this thread and the loophole, while sly, was a mistake on my part since the main goal of this thread is mostly to have fun rather than win at any cost, I realize that many of you would like to keep playing, If anyone has anything to say to me, please ping me so I get the message.

sincerely (even though I don't need this since it is a thread),

Chasmgoat

I would not like you to lose your titles because you are busy, so if you or someone else can make a law that allows someone to temporarily give their titles to someone else would be great.

As for your loophole, that is what the game is about and you should not regret it or be ashamed by it. you brought this game a little more action with it and are having fun because of it. It was fun trying to prevent you from winning and made us all feel like we were actually trying to stop someone from rising to power. Take your time, I will try t make sure when you come back you can get your titles back, and do come back soon, your a great player. Also, you'll be back for veterans day I hope.

[Chasmgoat he/him]

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1 hour ago, Aspiring Writer said:

Gone for two hours and I'm already panicking to respond to everything!

I relate to this statement. Go take some time to calm down come back. Believe me, it helps. 

 

Interpretation on the meaning of the wording of a law is up to the players, but things not outright stated would be up to the King and currently the Regent, aka me, as well as King's Wit I believe.

 

Hoid, the problem here is there is no law that gives you the power to change, but there is an interpretation of a law that says you can't. Now you could have made a proposal to make this a power, but you all assumed this was something you could do, so you didn't, and this is a lesson to everyone, don't go by chance, make proposals so that way nobody can prevent your victory.

 

Rejected- Despite the Ninga rule thing, I would have rejected it regardless. I don't like stopping people from discussing their points, especially when that point is deciding whether or not the game continues. They have every right to make their points as that is part of the game. While we may get frustrated at them making those points, remember they are also frustrated at what was an easy win being taken away and are trying to get it back, as is the spirit of this game of backstabbing and politicking. 

 

100% percent is. Loopholes are a part and there is no denying that. 

 

Your base for winning brings up lots of uncertainties with the time the law was approved, whether or not you had the power to change, and many other factors which have made it so I have decided that the law is being rendered mute until I get fundamental proof of when it was approved and more. The law came at a really weird time and because of that, we have decided to default it to not counting the victory, as well as us deciding you cannot switch allergies and there is nothing giving you the power to do so and even an interpretation saying you can't which outweighs nothing saying you can't do it.

 

1 point for- it does not prohibit it

1 point against- it does not grant that power

1 point against- there is an interpretation that says you may not be allowed to.

2-1 I need to decide things logically, and there is more argument against then for.

Approved- and yeah, I agree with everything on here.

 

I would not like you to lose your titles because you are busy, so if you or someone else can make a law that allows someone to temporarily give their titles to someone else would be great.

As for your loophole, that is what the game is about and you should not regret it or be ashamed by it. you brought this game a little more action with it and are having fun because of it. It was fun trying to prevent you from winning and made us all feel like we were actually trying to stop someone from rising to power. Take your time, I will try t make sure when you come back you can get your titles back, and do come back soon, your a great player. Also, you'll be back for veterans day I hope.

 

thank you, ok, so I was going to step down because this would allow others to fill the role of Highprince of war since I would need to be here more to do those included duties. If you reject my stepping down I guess I can't argue... Also, if I were to step down is hoid the highprince of sadeas? or hoid, do you want to remain your original house?

[Aspiring Writer]

41 minutes ago, Chasmgoat said:

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thank you, ok, so I was going to step down because this would allow others to fill the role of Highprince of war since I would need to be here more to do those included duties. If you reject my stepping down I guess I can't argue... Also, if I were to step down is hoid the highprince of sadeas? or hoid, do you want to remain your original house?

He still needs to make a proposal that allows him to change houses. Once that's done, he can do so. And yeah, players might need to go inactove for a while at times, and I don't want them to reset because of that.

[xinoehp512 he/him]

Oh, wait, my proposal amendment still hasn't been approved. Rule of Affiliation: Players may affiliate themselves with one of the ten princedoms at a time: Aladar, Bethab, Hatham, Kholin, Roion, Ruthar, Sebarial, Thanadal, and Vamah. Affiliations must be posted in blue. If a player affiliates more than once, only the most recent affiliation will be counted- any positions or privileges tied to previous affiliations will be revoked. The first player to affiliate with a princedom will be the highprince, and each person affiliating afterwards must have their affiliations approved by the highprince in order to count. They will also be placed on the succession list. Should the highprince be removed for any reason, the person at the top of the seniority list will become highprince.

Can we get this resolved?  I have to be keeping track of titles, and I don't want a big argument over any censuses.

[Aspiring Writer]

On 11/7/2020 at 7:04 AM, xinoehp512 said:

Oh, wait, my proposal amendment still hasn't been approved. Rule of Affiliation: Players may affiliate themselves with one of the ten princedoms at a time: Aladar, Bethab, Hatham, Kholin, Roion, Ruthar, Sebarial, Thanadal, and Vamah. Affiliations must be posted in blue. If a player affiliates more than once, only the most recent affiliation will be counted- any positions or privileges tied to previous affiliations will be revoked. The first player to affiliate with a princedom will be the highprince, and each person affiliating afterwards must have their affiliations approved by the highprince in order to count. They will also be placed on the succession list. Should the highprince be removed for any reason, the person at the top of the seniority list will become highprince.

Can we get this resolved?  I have to be keeping track of titles, and I don't want a big argument over any censuses.

Amend it so the person needs permission. Also, why is nobody doing anything?!

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

8 hours ago, Aspiring Writer said:

Amend it so the person needs permission. Also, why is nobody doing anything?!

I'm busy I might later tonight 

I propose The Rule of Absence: If a player is going to be absent for a time they may pass on anything (such as titles, sphere count, and control of their respective princedom) that is ascribed to being owned by them. Anything that was passed on must (if the original player wishes it) be returned to the previous owner. A player cannot win via this means.

@Experience @Aspiring Writer @xinoehp512 whoever's in charge right now and @Chasmgoat 

I will do the Hallendran version for my 500th post wether this is over or not

Edited November 10, 2020 by Somebody from Sel

[+Doomstick he/him]

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[Aspiring Writer]

6 hours ago, Somebody from Sel said:

I propose The Rule of Absence: If a player is going to be absent for a time they may pass on anything (such as titles, sphere count, and control of their respective princedom) that is ascribed to being owned by them. Anything that was passed on must (if the original player wishes it) be returned to the previous owner. A player cannot win via this means.

Approved

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

2 minutes ago, Aspiring Writer said:

Approved

@Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat

[Aspiring Writer]

Just now, Somebody from Sel said:

@Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat  @Chasmgoat

I did not realize you could color tags. Hmmm. How did you accomplish this?

[Guest Somebody from Scadrial]

2 minutes ago, Aspiring Writer said:

I did not realize you could color tags. Hmmm. How did you accomplish this?

Just coloring them normally [ c I o r = a q u a ] see? [ / C o l o r ] no spaces

Edited November 10, 2020 by Somebody from Sel

[xinoehp512 he/him]

On 11/9/2020 at 5:53 PM, Aspiring Writer said:

Amend it so the person needs permission. Also, why is nobody doing anything?!

It's in there, I think I forgot to color it red.