Is the surge of adhesion, as windrunners use it, basically airbending?

[MasterK-Bob he/him]

We've seen Kaladin use adhesion (the surge of "pressure and the vacuum") multiple times in the series so far. Mostly this has been in the use of full lashing, but at other times this has also certainly been used, but besides full lashings, it has not been well explained, and certainly not compared to gravitation. It seems though that by controlling local atmospheric pressure precisely, Kaladin really can assert very fine control over the wind, and doing so, he could basically do most of the stuff airbenders can do in the Avatar universe. Do you think this is ultimately what Brandon has in mind? If so, what are the implications? I think it could make what has seemed to be one of the least useful surges, being used mostly just for full lashings, into one of the most useful, making the windrunner suite of abilities more appealing that that of the skybreakers (though we still really don't know much about division).

[Ixthos Luke/Luke]

15 minutes ago, MasterK-Bob said:

We've seen Kaladin use adhesion (the surge of "pressure and the vacuum") multiple times in the series so far. Mostly this has been in the use of full lashing, but at other times this has also certainly been used, but besides full lashings, it has not been well explained, and certainly not compared to gravitation. It seems though that by controlling local atmospheric pressure precisely, Kaladin really can assert very fine control over the wind, and doing so, he could basically do most of the stuff airbenders can do in the Avatar universe. Do you think this is ultimately what Brandon has in mind? If so, what are the implications? I think it could make what has seemed to be one of the least useful surges, being used mostly just for full lashings, into one of the most useful, making the windrunner suite of abilities more appealing that that of the skybreakers (though we still really don't know much about division).

Yes! This is exactly what I think. Do you remember the scene in Oathbringer part 1, with Kaladin and the storm? I am convinced adhesion is the ability to control pressure to push and pull on objects, as well as seal air in an area.

[Honorless he/him]

1 hour ago, Ixthos said:

Yes! This is exactly what I think. Do you remember the scene in Oathbringer part 1, with Kaladin and the storm? I am convinced adhesion is the ability to control pressure to push and pull on objects, as well as seal air in an area.

Yeah, I read that scene as him creating a high pressure area to part the Highstorm. Many others had and continue to come to the same conclusion independently or after research & verification, so I'm fairly confident in that assessment

1 hour ago, MasterK-Bob said:

We've seen Kaladin use adhesion (the surge of "pressure and the vacuum") multiple times in the series so far. Mostly this has been in the use of full lashing, but at other times this has also certainly been used, but besides full lashings, it has not been well explained, and certainly not compared to gravitation. It seems though that by controlling local atmospheric pressure precisely, Kaladin really can assert very fine control over the wind, and doing so, he could basically do most of the stuff airbenders can do in the Avatar universe. Do you think this is ultimately what Brandon has in mind? If so, what are the implications? I think it could make what has seemed to be one of the least useful surges, being used mostly just for full lashings, into one of the most useful, making the windrunner suite of abilities more appealing that that of the skybreakers (though we still really don't know much about division).

Yeah, Windrunners seem fairly Air Bender-y. They can even beat Guru Laghima in levitating, albeit by cheating via the Surge of Gravitation. Adhesion just seems to manifest in the Physical Realm via the same phenomenon by which one can make a cup stick to their face by placing it over their mouth and sucking in the air. It probably also has a relation with Windspren being Honorspren's cousins and seem to be the Windrunners' secondary spren (or so many of us here theorize)