Quantus he/him Posted February 7, 2020 Author Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Honorless said: Forget AonDor, it could very well be that the city of Elantris predates Devotion & Dominion's Splintering. After all, when the people who would become the Arelish first settled in what would become Arelon, they found Elantris already there, empty. For what it's worth, I still dont see how that could be possible based on the WOBs we have, but I guess we'll just have to wait for some new piece of clarifying information.
Honorless he/him Posted February 8, 2020 Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) On 2/8/2020 at 3:04 AM, Quantus said: For what it's worth, I still dont see how that could be possible based on the WOBs we have, but I guess we'll just have to wait for some new piece of clarifying information. Do we have a concrete timeline for the events on Sel ? As far as I know we only have WoBs on when Elantris, the book was set and even those are estimates. The building of Elantris part is the most contentious part of what I said though, yeah. Anyway, thank you guys for indulging me with my theory, I'll eventually create a topic for it and we can discuss more then instead of taking over this thread Edited February 9, 2020 by Honorless
+robardin he/him Posted March 11, 2020 Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) On 2/5/2020 at 6:58 AM, Oltux72 said: I think you are misinterpreting Brandon. The "original Elantrians" predate Elantris. But they became Elantrians in the modern sense by building Elantris. I was going to jump in to say something like this: perhaps "original Elantrians" would better be termed "proto-Elantrians", or "Early Arelonians". Remember, to the people of Arelon, before the Reod which caused the disruption in how new Elantrians taken by the Shaod were now formed, an "Elantrian" was someone (a) invariably born in or very near to Arelon, (b) taken by the Shaod, a transformation into a silvery being, who (c) could then draw Aons and channel AonDor through them to do powerful magics that (d) were centered around, and amplified by, being done in or near the city of Elantris (and correspondingly weakened by being done at a distance from Elantris). But the people who are now the native population of Arelon, such as Raoden, arrived from elsewhere, finding an empty and abandoned city. This included the four "gate cities" around Elantris. Only after a generation of living in and near Elantris did the Aonic newcomers begin to have some of their now-natively-born children taken by the Shaod. Who built Elantris? It's formed as a giant Aon Ela ("center"), which is obviously no accident given that AonDor represents channeling the Dor through an Aon. One of Brandon's annotations to Elantris states that the city was built by people who knew and used Aons and AonDor to do so: "The Aons had to exist before Elantris – otherwise, the original Elantrians wouldn’t have known the shape to make the city. Their study of AonDor taught them a method for amplifying Aon power". But if those builders were Elantrians the way that Raoden and friends are now - deathless, silvery, extremely powerful while in Arelon, and even more so after constructing the giant Aon Ela of Elantris and dwelling therein - and seeing how such Elantrians led and ruled over Arelon in the years leading up to the Reod, what happened to them? Could whatever happened to them, happen to Raoden's cast of Elantrians? To address the OP, maybe this is what happens when the celiing on the number of "Elantrians" his been hit... Some kind of an en masse "leveling up" or a reset? (That latter sounds bad... Like a computer program overflowing an integer counter's capacity?) Further questions I have about Elantrians in general: Are the "Ire" we see in Mistborn: Secret History Elantrians "Early Arelonians"? We have a WoB that they pre-date the Reod, but by how much? Not everyone is taken by the Shaod - so what happened to the non-Shaoded people of Early Arelon, such that the entire land was empty when they arrived? Or did the Shaod work differently back then, and everybody WAS an "Elantrian"? How did the Aonic newcomers learn the Aons and their functions and meanings, if they are linked to Arelon but they arrived from elsewhere to an empty city/land? Their ethnonym, the name they now call themselves, is "Aonic", so is that something they adopted only after arriving to Elantris/in Arelon and learning about Aons and AonDor? Edited March 11, 2020 by robardin
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