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[AonEne he/him]

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So who is Aqua?

They are the same person.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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Like, where did he come from?

Perhaps, but they are different entities.

 

Edited September 7, 2019 by xinoehp512

[AonEne he/him]

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Sure, that works.

Because they are the same person they're me.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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I haven't written a backstory for him yet.  He's a pseudoreal intellect.

But you aren't unconscious in a Silverlight hospital, right? You're typing this out on your keyboard. There are two brains in this situation.

 

[AonEne he/him]

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Okay

1 minute ago, xinoehp512 said:

But you aren't unconscious in a Silverlight hospital, right? You're typing this out on your keyboard.

OR AM I

No, I'm not. But that doesn't mean it's not me. When you tell someone what you did yesterday, are you a separate person from the one you're talking about? What about when you daydream about being with someone - is the you of your daydream not you? This is like that.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

1 minute ago, AonEne said:

No, I'm not. But that doesn't mean it's not me. When you tell someone what you did yesterday, are you a separate person from the one you're talking about? What about when you daydream about being with someone - is the you of your daydream not you? This is like that.

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But you aren't chronologically linked. Real-World Ene can never become In-World Ene, or vice-versa.

I think I begin see what you're getting at, though. You have to keep in mind, however, that not every Narrator is going to be the same as their Author- not even Avatars, necessarily.

 

[AonEne he/him]

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They're not happening at the same time, no.

Maybe so; but this pair is.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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But they are.

To a point, yes. But you are determining what her future will be; the same can not be said the other way.

The important thing is that Authors are Real-World people. All other terms- Narrator, Writer, Avatar- describe In-World characters.

 

Edited September 7, 2019 by xinoehp512

[AonEne he/him]

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But you just said they aren't

I can debate that, actually. IC Ene doesn't directly control OOC Ene, but the influence is there.

I still disagree with that terminology; but if it works for you...

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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"Chronologically linked" does not mean contemporary. It means past/future versions of one person.

3 minutes ago, AonEne said:

I can debate that, actually. IC Ene doesn't directly control OOC Ene, but the influence is there.

You can turn her into a frog. She can't turn you into a frog.

Spoiler

 

4 minutes ago, AonEne said:

I still disagree with that terminology; but if it works for you...

Why?

 

[AonEne he/him]

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I know what it means, and I didn't say they were contemporary.

Define "can" Have the ability to, yes - will, never.

For the reasons we've been talking about.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

1 minute ago, AonEne said:

I know what it means, and I didn't say they were contemporary.

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And I didn't say it wasn't.

2 minutes ago, AonEne said:

Define "can" Have the ability to, yes - will, never.

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But you could, if you wanted to. You have ultimate power over Ene the Character.

 

[AonEne he/him]

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1 minute ago, xinoehp512 said:

And I didn't say it wasn't.

I'm confused, what are we talking about here?

Technically? Yes. But because she's me, I wouldn't do that; I keep it realistic to what I can actually do.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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14 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

But you aren't chronologically linked. Real-World Ene can never become In-World Ene, or vice-versa

14 hours ago, AonEne said:

They're not happening at the same time, no.

14 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

But they are.

14 hours ago, AonEne said:

But you just said they aren't

14 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

"Chronologically linked" does not mean contemporary. It means past/future versions of one person.

14 hours ago, AonEne said:

I know what it means, and I didn't say they were contemporary.

13 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

And I didn't say it wasn't.

That's the thread of the conversation as I've followed it.

13 hours ago, AonEne said:

Technically? Yes. But because she's me, I wouldn't do that; I keep it realistic to what I can actually do.

But you could, because you are her author. Capitalized or not.

14 hours ago, AonEne said:

For the reasons we've been talking about.

It's true that, in a sense, you and Ene the character are the same person, just like how two versions of someone in alternate realities are in a sense the same person. However, the two of you have different experiences, different memories, and even potentially different personalities. In that sense, you are different people. The two perspectives are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Lunamor she/her]

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I think y’all should just agree to disagree 

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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But I'm sure that we can agree.

 

[Lunamor she/her]

Just now, xinoehp512 said:

 

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Then you can just disagree and be done with it  I’m pretty sure that the result of this argument won’t affect the state of the rp.

 

[xinoehp512 he/him]

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The whole point of the argument was whether Writers and Authors are the same thing, which I feel is an important distinction if anything is supposed to make sense.

 

[AonEne he/him]

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Sorry that this isn’t in-depth because I’m on mobile, but the quotes didn’t help. 

Yes, I possess the physical ability to type her into being a frog, and I could also do that for Aqua. But of course I don’t because of the rules we have set up. 

 

[I think I am here. he/him]

On 07/09/2019 at 9:36 AM, xinoehp512 said:

Hmm, yes. For a long time, now.

“Huh,” I said, and Meta-character looked at me.

“You seem to be thinking of something,” he said.

“Well,” I continued. “I control you. So that means, anything I say can happen to you, right? Isn’t that... too much power for one person to have? With great power comes great corruption. I could do whatever I want as a Writer. I could become a tyrant!”

“I doubt it,” Meta-character said and I held up my book in response, edited Meta-character’s character sheet.

“Hey, hey what are you doing?!” Meta-character called as suddenly they had blonde hair, and were 4 feet tall.

“See? I control you.” I did another edit and Meta-character had four arms.

“Hey, stop! Give me that!” Meta-character reached for my sketchbook but I edited the character sheet again and they had no arms. I looked at them, then at the sheet. Then at the aquamarine voice.

“This is too much power,” I said. “No one should have this much power. No one.”

[old man moomba he/him]

"Well it's a bit too late to stop it now." Dapper said with a grin, "The power... it's not... evil, nor is it good. It simply is, and we decide how to use it. Now, I'm sure everyone is different, but when I became real, you might say, I knew the power innately, how to use it to manipulate the world. I was nerver corrupted by it because I knew exactly what I wanted to do with it. My Intent, you might say."

[xinoehp512 he/him]

22 hours ago, AonEne said:

Yes, I possess the physical ability to type her into being a frog, and I could also do that for Aqua. But of course I don’t because of the rules we have set up. 

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The point, though, is that you could. And you could also do other things- like, say, driving her insane.

7 hours ago, I think I am here. said:

“Huh,” I said, and Meta-character looked at me.

“You seem to be thinking of something,” he said.

“Well,” I continued. “I control you. So that means, anything I say can happen to you, right? Isn’t that... too much power for one person to have? With great power comes great corruption. I could do whatever I want as a Writer. I could become a tyrant!”

“I doubt it,” Meta-character said and I held up my book in response, edited Meta-character’s character sheet.

“Hey, hey what are you doing?!” Meta-character called as suddenly they had blonde hair, and were 4 feet tall.

“See? I control you.” I did another edit and Meta-character had four arms.

“Hey, stop! Give me that!” Meta-character reached for my sketchbook but I edited the character sheet again and they had no arms. I looked at them, then at the sheet. Then at the aquamarine voice.

“This is too much power,” I said. “No one should have this much power. No one.”

That's why the mimes exist, hmm? 

 

[AonEne he/him]

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I think you’re looking at this in a specifically TLT way, while I’m looking at it in a every-RP way. Regardless, we clearly have differing opinions, and that’s fine. It could be different for some people than for others. This is already a pretty subjective topic. 

Anyway, this was meant to be a murder mystery, and while I love all the magic talk going on, that’s not what I’m here for.  So I’m dropping the subject here. 

 

[I think I am here. he/him]

15 hours ago, xinoehp512 said:

That's why the mimes exist, hmm? 

“But who murdered Apollyon?” I wanted to say, then realised I had said it.

Meta-character was flailing around on the floor, and with a hesitant eraser I erased his character sheet, and slowly he faded away from existence, just a figment of my imagination. I thought of something, then looked to everyone at the wedding hall.

“What if Apollyon was a character?” I proposed. “They are indistinguishable from regular people like us, and his writer might have wanted to kill him.”

[AonEne he/him]

24 minutes ago, I think I am here. said:

“What if Apollyon was a character?” I proposed. “They are indistinguishable from regular people like us, and his writer might have wanted to kill him.”

“Aaaaaaah that is freaky I don’t like that,” Cassie yelped. “That is a very scary idea. Though...I will admit not much scarier than him dying in the first place.”