Turin Turambar Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 How does worldhopping actually work? I mean, I think they travel through shadesmar, but how? boat? magic? shadesmar is like the inverse of the worlds, but what's the inverse of space? Anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
equinox Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 There's this WoB that kinda.. um.. explains this a bit.. um.. Shadesmar, so the Cognitive Realm, it's kind of a plane on which all the different planets exist and the space between them.. um.. is basically nonexistent or shrunken to a tiny distance? Mhm.. I'll better copy the WoB Quote Questioner So like as far as distance traveled in Shadesmar. Brandon Sanderson Mhm Questioner So when Kelsier... Brandon Sanderson Yeah. Questioner ...in Shadesmar. He meets the Ire, who are presumably Elantrian. Brandon Sanderson Yes. Questioner Like how far did he travel? Is that still within Scadrial's realm of the Cognitive Realm? Brandon Sanderson Yeah, that's within-- he has s-- By the time he meets them he has slipped right to the edge of the Cognitive Realm on Scadrial and into kind of the darkness between planets. Questioner Okay. Brandon Sanderson He's close enough that he can get there. But he's kind of suffused with Scadrian Investiture then, to a point that it would be harder--you saw in there--for him to get further. I would say that he's like... He has entered space between planets, but he's not out of the solar system. Questioner Okay, so he's <still there> in the Scadrian system, just... Brandon Sanderson Yeah, yep. Questioner Okay, just edging it there. Brandon Sanderson Yeah, mhm. That's what I'd say if I had to actually point <at> him. I would get really fuzzy though, because it wouldn't be too much longer before he enters another solar system. Like he would pass lightyears in steps as he starts getting further, if that makes any sense. Questioner That makes sense, because, I mean, with worldhopping in general it's like... You can only... I mean it's... I don't know how the time dilation works per se, but... Brandon Sanderson It's not-- there's not much time dilation. What you've got going on is... Things that people aren't around to think about, things without minds or any sort of life, don't manifest on Shadesmar very much at all. And so the space between planets gets really small, unless there's another planet out there with thinking beings or at least some sort of life on it. Like even lower lifeforms, you'll get something manifesting on Shadesmar. But yeah. Questioner Okay. So the Cognitive Realm, in Shadesmar... Brandon Sanderson Yeah. Questioner ...in the Cognitive Realm... It's kind of the... Any kind of sentient or cognitive life-- that's what is building Shadesmar? Brandon Sanderson Yeah, yeah. Questioner So like anything where there's blackness... is like... condensed or-- Brandon Sanderson Yes, yes. Particularly if no one's thinking about it? If people are thinking about it.. like, for instance, an island in the ocean that was scoured of all life and even bacteria would still manifest in Shadesmar on that planet because people are aware of it and things like this. But one on the other side of the planet, that no one ever knew about it, probably wouldn't. Questioner So that same island, if people just stopped thinking about it or like stopped being aware it's *inaudible* would it... Brandon Sanderson It could slowly vanish, yes. And so-- But that's more of a thought experiment. You're never gonna have a planet that that happens to, you know cause... Questioner Right. Brandon Sanderson But thought experiment wise, yes, that would eventually kind of get consumed by Shadesmar and vanish. The same thing would happen to a planet that you strip the atmosphere from--all the bacteria and life dies on it--you know, slowly going to vanish. But a moon will still manifest because people are thinking about it. It'll just not-- it won't-- it'll be hoakie, it'll be weird--the moon will be. Like you might find a little patch that represents the moon. Something like that. Questioner That's interesting. Brandon Sanderson You're not gonna find the full landscape of the moon until people start visiting it. And it's gonna grow on Shadesmar. White Sand vol.1 release party (June 28, 2016) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara she/her Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 Space in the Cognitive Realm that people aren't thinking about and don't live on is compressed. So since no one thinks about any particular location in space and no one lives there, it gets compressed in the Cognitive Realm. So you can take a single step and cross light years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Oltux72 he/him Posted February 22, 2019 Report Share Posted February 22, 2019 According to Kelsier's experience interplanetary space is actually an expanse of solid rock as ground. So your problem is finding a way to carry enough supplies with you. But the mechanics of actual worldhopping, if you have a physical body, are easy: you walk. How you know which way to walk is another interesting question. But you walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin Turambar Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 What are you actually walking on, though. Also, I'd assume that this resolves the time differences between planets (nobody thinks about it, therefore, it doesn't exist?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Invocation Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 On 2/22/2019 at 2:51 PM, Oltux72 said: According to Kelsier's experience interplanetary space is actually an expanse of solid rock as ground. So your problem is finding a way to carry enough supplies with you. But the mechanics of actual worldhopping, if you have a physical body, are easy: you walk. How you know which way to walk is another interesting question. But you walk. Thankfully, it's not a 1:1 ratio of Cognitive space to Physical space. 6 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said: What are you actually walking on, though. Also, I'd assume that this resolves the time differences between planets (nobody thinks about it, therefore, it doesn't exist?) I think you're walking on some form of metaphysical representation of empty space in another level of existence. I just chalk it up to Realmatic interaction with quantum mechanics and the compression of interim space into the space it would take up if the empty space between nuclei of atoms and their electrons were removed. Or just other shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin Turambar Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 uh, sure...thanks, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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