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Does anyone know how big the object soul-spheres on shadesmar actually are?  Does that size vary?  Ive been looking for references but I havent found anything great yet, and I plan to try making an Art (not something Im terribly good at most days).

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The beads in Shadesmar are, well, bead sized. About the size of dried pinto beans.

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How big are the beads from Shadesmar?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

...Bean-size, not as big as spheres.

Questioner [PENDING REVIEW]

Spheres are the size of your thumbnail, right?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Spheres are a little bigger than that. They're like a big marble. Not quite as big as a shooter.

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The spheres used for currency are "a little larger than a person’s thumbnail."

The Shadesmar beads are supposed to be smaller. ("...like those that would hold Stormlight, but dark and small...") But apparently big enough to pick up an individual sphere comfortably.

So perhaps the size of a pinky nail?

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1 hour ago, Quantus said:

Awesome, thanks!  I was definitely picturing them bigger than both of those, something more quarter-sized (~1" or 25mm).   Where is that quote from, for my own reference?

Off the top of my head, I think it comes either from Shallan in Words of Radiance accidentally partially transitioning into Shadesmar, or just after the Oathgate thing in Oathbringer.

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3 minutes ago, bxcnch said:

Another question - since in the first few SA books it was said that everything has a spren - even, hats if Lopen is to be believed - does that mean that the beads in Shadesmar are spren?

They're sort of the equivalent of spren, but for inanimate objects. So yes, sorta?

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RShara, (and somebody correct me if I'm wrong,) everything has a spren that manifests into shadesmar as a sphere. Because of the cognitive and spiritual links between any object, wyndle can have a (chair?) collection in shadesmar. Everything that has a physical aspect has a spren, even if it is extremely weak.

 

You see this in soulcasting, like when shallan talks to the stick 

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On 8/31/2019 at 4:20 PM, Themasterhunter said:

RShara, (and somebody correct me if I'm wrong,) everything has a spren that manifests into shadesmar as a sphere. Because of the cognitive and spiritual links between any object, wyndle can have a (chair?) collection in shadesmar. Everything that has a physical aspect has a spren, even if it is extremely weak.

 

You see this in soulcasting, like when shallan talks to the stick 

Yes and no?  Everything has an expression in Shadesmar, but it can take one of three (so far) forms:  Spheres, Flames, and Formed Spren.  In general Objects get spheres, Sapient Beings (Humans, Singers, etc) get Flames, and Spren that lack a permanent Physical Form get a native Cog Realm shape (city-dwelling spren, mandra's, sky-eals, etc).  There may be more variations that we have not yet seen, but from what we have seen I think the two primary differentiators are first whether the thing has a native Physical Realm form (ie. Syl does not), and then sapience.  If a think has no permanent Physical Realm form, they can be considered Shadesmar-Native spren, which need some Physical Realm anchor to manifest, even temporarily, which can be as transient as an emotion emanating from a person, or as permanent as the Nahel Bond.  If they DO have a natural Physical Realm form, they divide along the Sapience Line: object-level awareness gets a Sphere while Persons get Flames.  

We know that Soulcasting works fine with Sphere-level objects, and we can safely assume it can work on a flame since Jasnah has soulcast living people.  Im entirely unclear on If or How it would work against a manifest Shadesmar spren like Ico or even a Mandra, but I suspect it would fizzle since they have no Physical Form to 'reprogram'.  

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