The Ghostblood's motives regarding Amaram

[Left]

Being a Radiant. The crimes are just excuses to justify killing the proto radiants.

[maxal]

Being a Radiant. The crimes are just excuses to justify killing the proto radiants.

 

Yes but a Skybreaker still need a crime, no matter how futile, in order to justify the murder of a proto-radiant. Nale couldn't kill Lift anymore  when Gawk issued a paper proclaiming she was free to go and was thus not comiting a crime by trespassing.

[kari-no-sugata]

I wonder which organization Shallan's mother was part of, that she had such extreme views as to justify killing Shallan. Was she a skybreaker?

 

I don't really see how she can be a Skybreaker since she's basically just in the middle of nowhere... unless she's acting as a relay-station for spanreeds (ie information gathering and distribution). Also, as others have pointed out, young Shallan would actually have needed to commit a crime before Skybreakers could take action.

 

I have a pet theory that the guy Shallan's mother brought to the house was a Vorin exorcist and that they thought she was possessed by a Voidbringer. This somewhat relies on the assumption that such a profession exists - certainly when Shallan used the ruse of Iyatil being possessed by a Voidbringer she was taken seriously, in which case there might be specialists. Also, I think the probability of Shallan's mother taking the action she took would vastly increase if Shallan's eyes ever glowed red (ie garnet) because this is associated with Voidbringers. Unfortunately, we don't yet know if this is possible. The third assumption this theory requires is that Shallan's mother would have to be devout (Shallan herself is somewhat devout).

 

That being said, just about any theory will need something similar to the last two: that Shallan's mother had really good evidence and that she was devoted to whatever her beliefs were.

[Shaggai]

I don't really see how she can be a Skybreaker since she's basically just in the middle of nowhere... unless she's acting as a relay-station for spanreeds (ie information gathering and distribution). Also, as others have pointed out, young Shallan would actually have needed to commit a crime before Skybreakers could take action.

 

I have a pet theory that the guy Shallan's mother brought to the house was a Vorin exorcist and that they thought she was possessed by a Voidbringer. This somewhat relies on the assumption that such a profession exists - certainly when Shallan used the ruse of Iyatil being possessed by a Voidbringer she was taken seriously, in which case there might be specialists. Also, I think the probability of Shallan's mother taking the action she took would vastly increase if Shallan's eyes ever glowed red (ie garnet) because this is associated with Voidbringers. Unfortunately, we don't yet know if this is possible. The third assumption this theory requires is that Shallan's mother would have to be devout (Shallan herself is somewhat devout).

 

That being said, just about any theory will need something similar to the last two: that Shallan's mother had really good evidence and that she was devoted to whatever her beliefs were.

She might just have been a devout Vorin and regarded the Radiants as inherently corrupted by the Recreance.

[maxal]

I don't really see how she can be a Skybreaker since she's basically just in the middle of nowhere... unless she's acting as a relay-station for spanreeds (ie information gathering and distribution). Also, as others have pointed out, young Shallan would actually have needed to commit a crime before Skybreakers could take action.

 

I have a pet theory that the guy Shallan's mother brought to the house was a Vorin exorcist and that they thought she was possessed by a Voidbringer. This somewhat relies on the assumption that such a profession exists - certainly when Shallan used the ruse of Iyatil being possessed by a Voidbringer she was taken seriously, in which case there might be specialists. Also, I think the probability of Shallan's mother taking the action she took would vastly increase if Shallan's eyes ever glowed red (ie garnet) because this is associated with Voidbringers. Unfortunately, we don't yet know if this is possible. The third assumption this theory requires is that Shallan's mother would have to be devout (Shallan herself is somewhat devout).

 

That being said, just about any theory will need something similar to the last two: that Shallan's mother had really good evidence and that she was devoted to whatever her beliefs were.

 

Possessed by a voidbringer... Now this is interesting. Are we going to see someone being trap in such way?

[Patrick Star]

Is it possible that the ghostbloods are trying to find Gavilar's black sphere?

 

Amaram IS a member of the sons of honor (started by Gavilar) and is possibly in charge of them now (Restares is really the only other option), so he would likely be able to provide information (possibly on how the sphere was found, which would help the Ghostbloods find it).

 

Also, I think that "another" is indeed Kaladin.  At least I hope so.  A Kaladin-Ghostbloods interaction would be pretty sweet, and would add another dimension to his relationship (hopefully not romantic) with Shallan.

[kari-no-sugata]

I don't remember all the theories posted about the Ghostbloods so I might be repeating something I remember reading long ago but has anyone else thought the following: simplifying greatly, a soulcaster is a triangular set of gems connected together. The Ghostbloods symbol is also basically a triangular set of gems! In addition, I got a funny feeling that Mraize was particularly glad that Shallan could Soulcast herself.

 

So do the Ghostbloods have some particular attachment to Soulcasting? Seems weird and I've not been able to come up with any other insights. They're a pretty mysterious bunch and given the hints of some of them being offworlders it's hard to imagine them being too interesting in one particular magic system from another world.

[Zea mays]

I agree about the connection to soulcasting because of the name: ghost blood. Whats that? Ghosts don't have any vital liquids as a rule. Ghost blood is... Blood from nowhere? Like the blood that just appeared when a certain clueless proto-radiant transfigured a goblet.

I think that to save herself Shalan will have to actually take over the ghostbloods. No real evidence, just the feel I get for her story's trajectory.

Edited July 20, 2014 by Zea mays

[kari-no-sugata]

I agree about the connection to soulcasting because of the name: ghost blood. Whats that? Ghosts don't have any vital liquids as a rule. Ghost blood is... Blood from nowhere? Like the blood that just appeared when a certain clueless proto-radiant transfigured a goblet.

I think that to save herself Shalan will have to actually take over the ghostbloods. No real evidence, just the feel I get for her story's trajectory.

 

Given their last conversation, it looks likely that Mraize will give Shallan a proper description of what the Ghostbloods aims are early in the next book, though I do wonder how fair and complete it will be. Either way I think we can expect to see Shallan do more Soulcasting in the next book so hopefully we can learn more about that too.

 

I had been thinking that Shallan would have to destroy the Ghostbloods but hmmm... hostile takeover... that's quite an intriguing possibility.

 

Edit: I said in earliest post that I thought the Ghostbloods seemed particularly interested in Soulcasters but couldn't think of any reason why offworlders would be so interested in them (over say Shardblades and Shardplate). Well, I then got this idea: what if they're all from a particular world with a hostile environment. On Roshar, the Soulcasters are one of the things that help make the world less hostile for humans so this could be used on other worlds too. So maybe one of the goals of the Ghostbloods is to collect lots of Soulcasters, figure out how they work fully, then take them back to their homeworld. 

Edited July 21, 2014 by kari-no-sugata