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Well, I'm glad to know i posed enough threat to team Evil to have them remove me first off. And Luckat, i did vote.

Posted

After being rudely awakened by the outpost's more-than-slightly-hysterical guests, Faidh wasn't sure what to do. His predictions had proven true, and it didn't seem like anything had really changed. Everyone was still quiet, still unfocused, still unwilling to work together to do what needed to be done. Something needed to change, but what? One would have thought another death would have been enough to provoke people to action.

 

Hmm... I'm thinking we're going to have to find some way to work together here. If we keep our votes and suspicions secret we're never going to get anywhere. If we play the same way today as we did yesterday we may as well hand the Mysteries their victory. Before he died, Mai voiced suspicion for Kai. This might mean nothing, or it might me everything. I myself am going to vote Kai this cycle. 

 

Team evil has a decent advantage right now. Presuming that they know who each other are, they can coordinate their votes, while we're stuck here too paranoid to really discuss things. We should be calling who we suspect, and saying who we'll be voting for and why. I'm hoping that the Priest of Jesker has targeted someone and started building a trustworthy group. We really need to use this cycle to get something done.

 

Four days, people. We have to find one of them before the fifth day, or we're dead. 

Posted

Well, apologies Joe. I was just seeing if the Dice were continuing their trend with making you evil.... my bad. :(

I don't see why anybody even voted for themselves, though. Or why people are publicly claiming to be Vanilla, or not. Even if you're telling the truth about your Role, then that just gives the Mafia Team less targets to chose from to get the Priest (cop) before they can do their job effectively.


Gamene awoke to another grizzly scene, another murder in the night. And she had even helped condemn Joe to exile, a guaranteed death from exposure. She felt sick to her stomach.  How were they supposed to survive this? Faidh was standing up, drawing attention to himself, declaring they everyone there only had less than a week, at most.

No, Gamene did not feel particularly clever, at the moment. She just felt trapped.

Posted

I am sorry as well, Joe. I had nothing to really go on, and seeing as you do have a history of getting evil roles I did the same thing as Gamma Fiend.

Aonar, why do you suspect Kai? Because you think that if Mai were suspicious Kai would have taken him out? I'm not accusing you, just trying to comprehend your logic.

Greggin recoiled at the sight of Mai. No one deserved that.

Turning away, he thought to himself. Poor Joe. Greggin didn't really have a problem with the man. He had simply been more worried about him than the others at the post.

Well, that was how the world went. Everyone tried their best, and only a few made it out well. Greggin only hoped that this would all end quickly.

He felt that he needn't hope. Something told him that all would come to a head within a few days. With killings and expulsions, it was only a matter of time.

Posted (edited)

Grey: Maill was the only person in the thread to openly proclaim who he was voting for. He was also the very first person to be killed. Coincidence much? It could have simple been the Mysteries trying to discourage anything that might lead to cohesive behaviour, or Maill could have gotten lucky. We won't know for sure until we act (or die, of course :P). So for the time being, I'll be voting Kai.

 

Remember: There are no coincidences. ; ) 

Edited by AonarFaileas
Posted (edited)

Kai closed her eyes, trying to get the images of the murdered bodies of the last two days out of her mind. She hadn't known either victim, and Mai had accused her earlier, but nobody deserved that. Still, red filled her vision. So much blood. And now she, and everyone else here, were trapped with the murderers. She could almost swear that she could hear

A few of their number had cast out Joe to the cold, a sure death sentence. Kai was sure that would do nothing to stop the murders. She wondered why they thought he was guilty. There was something about him that had seemed earnest to her, and she had even started to like him.

Now their numbers were down to ten. At this rate, they’d all be gone within five days. Of course, the murderers weren't likely to kill themselves, at least until everyone else was gone. Faidh had said there were probably three, and she rather suspected he was right. That meant they had two days before the innocents were whittled down to the same number as the murderers, if they didn't find any. Four days to find them all. Kai shuddered as she realized how small their chances of survival were.


@ Nepene and Mai
I didn't see anything in the writeup that suggested who either of you voted for. Joe’s vote for himself wasn't entirely clear without Tempus’s clarification, so maybe something in the writeup meant that Nepene voted for himself. I wonder if it’s possible that Mai’s vote didn’t count because he was murdered. If that is so, then we should probably keep it in mind going forward that one of team good’s votes might not count each day.

@Faidh
I honestly think it would be silly for the Mysteries to kill the only person who made an accusation if the person accused was one of their number. That kind of thing always casts suspicion on the person who was accused earlier. I agree that we need to get more conversation going though.

On that note, what you said about how much time we have isn't exactly correct. You said “We have to find one of them before the fifth day,” but with my understanding that should should be “We have to find all of them before the fifth day,” or “We have to find one of them before the third day.” We either need to kill one of the members of the Mysteries today and at least two times out of the next three days after that, or we need to kill one every single day after today. I understand if you made errors in calculations or typos or something, but I worry that you might be trying to lull us into a false sense of security. Also, I would like to know why you didn't vote at all yesterday.

Edited by luckat
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Ah, but they know that it would be silly. We know that they know it would be a bad idea, and that logically, they would never kill someone who had voted for them. So you would appear to be clean by that reasoning. The problem is, they know we know that it would be a bad idea for them to kill Mai, so they would kill Mai, knowing we would discount you as a suspect... But we know they know we know they know it would be a bad idea to kill Mai, so we can't trust anyone, whether they were voted for by Mai or not... What was I trying to explain again? :P
 
Basically, it boils down to the fact that observation of an action changes the action, and the observation of this changed action changes it again. It theoretically keeps going on infinitely, with the two eventual outcomes being equally probable. We can't trust anyone. There isn't really anything more to it. 
 
Thanks for correcting the time-frame though. In the current full-size game that extra condition is missing, because the sheer number of killing/defending abilities keep the outcome from being set once the PK and ambassadors reach even numbers. (Which won't happen, but still.) So yeah. Three days to find one, five to find the lot of them.
 
I was planning on voting last cycle, (for Mai, ironically enough) but real life got in the way. I've gotten my vote in early this cycle, just in case something happens again.

Posted (edited)

Ratel went back to bed after seeing Mai's body carefully placed in the lodges basement next to the freeholders corpse.  With the ground frozen solid a descent burial was impossible.

 

The cold will keep the bodies from decomposing too much until the ground softens enough or a patrol arrives.   These cultists are too cowardly to attack during the day, so I will sleep while I can and  have a pickaxe ready for their skulls if they come for me tonight.

 

My characters seem to be getting more paranoid the more games I play. :mellow: 

 

I was going to vote for Kai as so far in games one, two and three, those that used lists and/or statistics have been evil.  I know, its a pretty weak argument but I really had nothing else to go on.  Now however my vote will be for Faidh as I feel that he is trying to manipulate everyone somehow and with how easily he did that to me in game two and has everyone playing follow the leader in game four, I'm convinced that Faidh is playing me somehow.  My vote wont be sent in until later so it might change but I shall post if it does.

 

@Tempus. Are votes set in stone once they are sent in or can we change them later in the day?

 

As for why I voted Nepene, I simply rolled dice.  I had nothing to go on so I let Lady Luck do the choosing for me.

 

I see no point in having people reveal their roles as everyone will simply say they are Civilians.  The cultists aren't going to admit who they are and the priest won't as it will make them a target.  As for Joe, we don't know that he isn't a cultist as his role wasn't revealed to us.  The odds of him being evil for a third time in a row is unlikely but not impossible.

Edited by Alvron
Posted

Votes can be changed whenever. I take the most recent of the day.

Posted

You may as well vote for me. :P I've already gained two votes to my knowledge (one from Kai, since I'm voting for her, and one from Vron, though being voted for simply because I've shown some slight degree of competence in this game feels weird; all it means it that it'll be that much worse when I'm lynched unnecessarily), and with how aggressively I've been playing this, the Mysteries probably don't want me alive either. I'm not expecting to stay alive long, whatever happens.

 

I'm feeling a little suspicious of Vron. Past success doesn't mean that everything I'm writing is going to be an attempt to deceive people. :P I've tried to be fairly open in my role in the other game, and excepting the gambit at the beginning, (which was more for fun that anything) I haven't deceived anyone.

 

(As an aside, the gambler's fallacy is a terrible way to justify anything. There's about a 1/120 chance of him being evil three games in a row, but after he was evil the first two games, he had the same chance [1/4] as anyone else to be evil in this game.)

Posted

Warkel beseeched the gnomes, sprites, salamanders and sylphs.

"Help me to decide whom to vote for. I picked the first to proclaim their innocence or so I thought. My elderly eyes missed an earlier assertion. Where too from here?"

Warkel sighed he was too old for this. He had seen too much death. That was how it went for an apothecary though. Sometimes other symptoms masked the true ailment, sometimes you arrived too late, sometimes there was nothing he could do but ease the pain. Time caught up with all, it was catching up with him. The cancerous growth blossomed in his stomach. He'd hoped to reach his home and his kin before he died. He now wondered if he would see the week out.

He wandered over to the stove for some hot water, he barely ate these days. A simple broth at night was all he needed. He made some tea, shuffled over into the corner and sat quietly; lost in thought.

Posted

@Faidh
I’m not actually sure whether I’ll vote for you yet. On one hand, you’re the person I’m most suspicious of and you are really dangerous if you are an enemy. On the other hand, if you are innocent, you’re an excellent asset since you’re getting conversations started and you have experience with this game.

Does anyone have any suspicions that haven't been expressed yet (particularly ones that aren't for me or Faidh)?

We haven’t heard from Caan yet. Does he have anything to say?

Posted (edited)

Tempus, are you going to announce the roles and alignment of the killed?\

 

Also, I survived the Snow! I'm happily vacationing in Duladel.

 

there will be 6 players left in 2 voting cycles. If no JK's have been killed by then, the JK's will equal the players. Today or tomorrow People.

Edited by The Only Joe
Posted

"Caan, you young whipper snapper. Breakfast is not the most important meal of the day. Tea is the most important meal of the day, would you like a cup?. You may come to realise this when we run out of food, if we don't die first. Thinking you are clever running away from home to a mounitain outpost.  Sitting there chewing dried rabbit meat.  Why in my day we'd have gone out and hunted Caribou barefoot with sharpened twigs!"

 

"The youth of today, unbelievable!"

 

"Now, tea anybody?"

Posted

@el_warko, Aww, why do you want to kill me :(

 

So the reason I voted for Warkel was because while we had almost no information to go on el_warko's question about whether the Jeskeri mysteries people knew about eachother and I figured that saying that to try to throw people off would be exactly the kind of thing a member of the Jeskeri mysteries might do.

 

I think we should keep an eye on Faidh but I don't think it is too likely that he is a bad guy. I would have expected him to push for conversation and would have been more suspicious if he hadn't. I also think that it is less likely that a member of the Jeskeri mysteries would be inactive on the first day like that. (Though it is possible that he was inactive in the vote but not in the sacrifice vote.) I'm going to stay with voting for Warkel for now, partly because he is voting for me, and partly because of the same reasons as before. It isn't the strongest evidence, but we haven't got anything truly strong yet :/

Posted

I don't really have any idea of who or what to vote for. Without vote totals it's very hard to tell who is doing what and so I have no idea who is who.

Posted

I was planning on maintaining a narrative only approach, but reading over the last days posts I'm getting the feeling that some of you are feeling confused or frustrated by it. I'm hesitant to switch tracks midgame, but as this is the pioneer game, I suppose I'll try a more transparent disclosure this day. You can then tell me if you prefer the narrative disclosure (which takes a little thought on your part), or the full disclosure.

Posted

Yeah Nepene, voting without knowing what others are doing definitely makes it harder to find clues. I might as well just vote for Faidh since I don't have any other good leads.

 

So far the votes declared in the thread are:

 

Faidh (2): Ratel, Kai

Kai (1): Faidh

Caan (1): Warkel

Warkel (1): Caan

 

But these can easily change without any of us knowing, and it's only half of the people here.

Posted

I was planning on maintaining a narrative only approach, but reading over the last days posts I'm getting the feeling that some of you are feeling confused or frustrated by it. I'm hesitant to switch tracks midgame, but as this is the pioneer game, I suppose I'll try a more transparent disclosure this day. You can then tell me if you prefer the narrative disclosure (which takes a little thought on your part), or the full disclosure.

 

It's very, very hard to roleplay with a narrative only approach. Your world is dominated by these hidden mechanics and so you have to devote most of your mental energy to figuring them out. Why waste time on roleplay when the main challenge is figuring out how the world works?

Posted (edited)

Day Two Ends

The second day draws to a close, and another murder is found. Upon coming downstairs in the morning, the body of Gamene is found on a table in the kitchen, gutted from neck to stomach, entrails missing, and filled with cloves of garlic.

A heated discussion leads to Faidh being turned out in the snow with their pack, left to the mercy of the howling winds.


Player Voted out: Faidh (Aonar Faileas)
Player Murdered: Gamene (Gamma Fiend)


Votes:

4 votes for Faidh (Aonar Faileas): Gamene (Gamma Fiend), Ratel (Alvron), Nepene, Kai (luckat)
2 votes for Warkel (el_warko): GreyPilgrim, Cann (Lord Claincy Ffnord)
1 votes for Caan (Lord Claincy Ffnord): el_warko  (Warkel)
1 votes for Kai (luckat): Faidh (AonarFaileas)

Were active, but did not vote: Adolin_Dustbringer, Asgren (Aspren)

Edited by Alvron
Posted

I was active, but It seems I logged in a few minutes too late to vote. That said, I was going to vote for Nepene.

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