Delightful Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) So I found this interesting gem: Adolin cursed and lunged for the assassin, but a fluttering tarp - brushed by the assassin in passing - leaped toward Adolin. The monster could command inanimate objects! Adolin sliced through the tarp and then jumped forward to swing for the assassin.-hardcover pg 1023, chapter 85 'Swallowed by the Sky" Note that this is before Szeth has either met Nin or picked up Nightblood. So a)from Adolin's perspective, Szeth is Commanding objects. b)It sounds awfully like Breath - in particular could command inanimate objects, and we all know how careful Brandon is with his wording. (Or at least, how careful we THINK he is. *ahem* Gibletish ) However a)It could have just been the wind, and generally Adolin freaking out about the Assassin in White. b ) Szeth wouldn't have had time to give a verbal command, even if he could use Stormlight to power and Awakening. c) It seems a bit much to me that on top of Vasher and Nightblood, Brandon would then cross over an entire magic system from Nalthis - especially since we're not supposed to need to have read any particular Cosmere book to understand the others. IF however, Szeth can Awaken, the only way I think he could learn it is from Vasher. 99% chance he's not a worldhopper, since we KNOW he's from Shinovar, plus it would make flashbacks very messy. I'm not sure I can see Vasher teaching him anyway, unless he learned Awakening in his past, before or in his early days of being Truthless. Which is doubtful because flashbacks. So I open the question to the rest of you theorisers and obssessors. What doth 17th Shard think? Edited April 16, 2014 by Delightful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I think you're reading too much into this. It was most likely just a Basic Lashing that Szeth used on the tarp. That said, with Nightblood, it wouldn't surprise me if Szeth could Awaken via Stormlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I'm with Moogle. It sounds like he just Lashed the tarp to Adolin. However, it could also be great foreshadowing for book 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ati Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Really fun catch, but I'm almost positive this was just done by lashing, which would be just as incomprehensible to Adolin as awakening. My guess would be Brandon just teasing, otherwise I think there would be some really obscure easy to miss reference about color draining from another object, and I haven't seen it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Right. Lashings would move objects. Forgot about that rather important detail. Talk about overthinking things. *facepalm*. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I have thought--nay, hoped--that we will eventually see Awakening for certain in these books. After all, Vasher and Nightblood were planned as Stormlight characters long before Warbreaker. It stands to reason that Nalthis and Endowment are similarly involved in the Stormlight Archive's plot and background. I wonder if Szeth will eventually learn how to Awaken objects, making this a minor foreshadowing. Perhaps Szeth will learn how to do it from a certain expert he has on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted April 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 I have thought--nay, hoped--that we will eventually see Awakening for certain in these books. After all, Vasher and Nightblood were planned as Stormlight characters long before Warbreaker. It stands to reason that Nalthis and Endowment are similarly involved in the Stormlight Archive's plot and background. I wonder if Szeth will eventually learn how to Awaken objects, making this a minor foreshadowing. Perhaps Szeth will learn how to do it from a certain expert he has on hand. So Brandon planned the crossover before he planned the actual book? I'm very curious now as to how Vasher and Nightblood will be significant in SA without being too Cosmere-spoilery or confusing. Stones Unhallowed....why must you be over a year away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobold King Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 (edited) So Brandon planned the crossover before he planned the actual book? I'm very curious now as to how Vasher and Nightblood will be significant in SA without being too Cosmere-spoilery or confusing. Stones Unhallowed....why must you be over a year away? Yes, Warbreaker was written as an introduction to their characters. I'll try to find a WoB for you (though I'm about to eat lunch so someone might beat me to it).EDIT: Because I am a gentleman, I found the WoB before I go to get lunch. Yes, I am a wonderful person. Q: When you were planning Zahel being Vasher, how long did you do that? A: Vasher was in the 2002 version of WoK by name. I only changed him to the new name after I finished this entire draft. Because I was like, oh he'd probably go under a pseudonym. So he's been in Roshar 12 years our time. According to Google, Warbreaker was released in 2009. So Vasher in Stormlight predates Warbreaker. Edited April 16, 2014 by Kobold King 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted April 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Yes, Warbreaker was written as an introduction to their characters. I'll try to find a WoB for you (though I'm about to eat lunch so someone might beat me to it). EDIT: Because I am a gentleman, I found the WoB before I go to get lunch. Yes, I am a wonderful person. According to Google, Warbreaker was released in 2009. So Vasher in Stormlight predates Warbreaker. Wow, thank you for that! I know you can't eat it, but take an upvote anyway. Edited April 17, 2014 by Delightful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyman Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Right. Lashings would move objects. Forgot about that rather important detail. Talk about overthinking things. *facepalm*. Upvote for being sensible about being corrected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delightful Posted April 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2014 Upvote for being sensible about being corrected. Thank you! Take an upvote for being so nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaoTheWyld Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Both Zahel and NB must play some large roles going forward for them to have had their own book for an intro (I hope). You never know with Brandon. I guess we do already know BN is on the scene and it will probably take Zahel helping out to get him under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericles Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Really fun catch, but I'm almost positive this was just done by lashing, which would be just as incomprehensible to Adolin as awakening. My guess would be Brandon just teasing, otherwise I think there would be some really obscure easy to miss reference about color draining from another object, and I haven't seen it. Although...he does wear all white (or gray at one point?) yeah....i still think were just reaching here. Who knows with the Cosmere though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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