hoser he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) In the runup to the release of WoR some of us elected to commit to positions relevant to the Stormlight Archive Realm. With the release of WoR, some of these issues have been settled and others may have arisen. Here is the post-WoR update. Please let me know if you disagree with the assessments herein. From the Stormlight Archive forum: SETTLED: No (I claim that Kaladin's ability to heal shard severed limbs and the ability to infuse on the part of their followers settles this one). Surgebinders will have no more than 3 powers, and specifically windrunners will only be able to infuse and perform the 3 lashings as defined in the Ars Arcanum of tWoK. Wrong: cem?, Natans, Mailliw73, marianmi, Gloom. Right: hoser, Argent?, Aether, Moogle Windrunnners have a "Force Push" ability. Yes: Aether, Mailliw73. No: Natans, marianmi, Chrono The Stonewards have a communication ability (I believe the female knight exercises it in the Starfalls vision, but I don't know if that will ever be confirmed). Yes: hoser No: Moogle, Natans, Mailliw73, Kurkistan There are 10 different types of spren that give the ability to Surgebind and they are all Splinters. Yes: cem, hoser, Natans, Mailliw73, Kurkistan, marianmi, Chrono, Gloom Stormriding: is a side-effect of either being a Surgebinder or a Radiant (therefore available to all surgebinders). Yes: cem. No: Natans, Mailliw73, marianmi, hoser, Chrono, Gloom. Riding the storm is the Windrunner special ability. No other Radiant order will be able to do it. Yes: Scott, Natans, marianmi, hoser, Chrono, Gloom. No: Mailliw73 SETTLED: Yes. Szeth is in possession of an Honorblade. Right: Aether, Bloodfalcon, Natans, marianmi, Gloom. Wrong: MadRand, hoser, Mailliw73, Kurkistan, dyring SETTLED: No. Shardblades are corrupted (Wrong: marianmi) by Odium. Wrong: Mailliw73. Right: MadRand, Natans, dyring. SETTLED: Yes.Shallan's brother (Nan Heleran?) was the Shardbearer who attacked Amaram back in Alethkar. Right: Moogle, Natans, Mailliw73, Kurkistan, dyring, marianmi. SETTLED: No. Dalinar will be a Stoneward. We will see his spren in WoR. Wrong: Scott, Natans, Mailliw73. Right: marianmi. SETTLED: Yes. Kaladin will wield a Shardspear in WoR. Right: Scott, Natans, Mailliw73, Gloom. Wrong: marianmi Baxil's mistress is Shallash. Yes: Moogle, Natans, Mailliw73, Kurkistan, marianmi, Chrono, Gloom The two Surge-charts were created by Honor and Cultivation and establish the magic system. Yes: Bloodfalcon, Natans, Mailliw73, Gloom No: Kurkistan, marianmi The Order images on Cultivation's Surge-chart (woman, big gem, lightning) are images of spren. Yes: Bloodfalcon, Natans, Mailliw73 No: marianmi The Order images on Honor's Surge-chart (Radiants) are images of Honorblades. Yes: Bloodfalcon, marianmi, Gloom No: Voidbringers will have the inverse characteristics of the Heralds. Yes: Natans No: Mailliw73, marianmi, Gloom The Tranquiline Halls and Damnation are both based off of real places in the Physical Realm. More specifically, they are other planets in the Roshar System. Yes: Gloom, Natans, Mailliw73. No: marianmi SETTLED: No. There are no spren created (without having previously existed in another form) by Odium. Wrong: Gloom, Mailliw73, marianmi, Chrono, Gloom. No: . The Radiants had a plan when they Recreanted that included saving information for their resurrection with the Vanrial. Yes: hoser, Natans. No: marianmi, Gloom SETTLED: Yes. Urithiru is located on the main continental land mass of Roshar to the west of Alethela in the physical realm. Right: hoser, Natans, dyring. Wrong: marianmi SETTLED: Yes. Szeth gets his windrunner abilities from his Shardblade. Right: hoser, Natans, Kurkistan, marianmi, Gloom. Wrong: Mailliw73. The parshendi killed Gavilar because "The evil sphere of doom" was a corrupted spren that could create a "voidbringer parshendi form". Yes: Natans. No: marianmi, Aether, Gloom. SETTLED: No. Shallarin (Shallan-Renarin shipping) will happen in WoR. Wrong: Mailliw73. Right: marianmi The Ten Fools will have the inverse characteristics of the Heralds. Yes: Mailliw73. No: marianmi Syl is no ordinary honorspren. She is qualitatively different from other Honorspren in addition to her unique personality. Yes: bartbug. No: Kurkistan, Mailliw73, Aether, Gloom. Kaladin's father, Lirin, will end up working for Taravangian. Yes: Gamma Fiend. No: Mailliw73, Chrono, Aether, Gloom. Kaladin will wield a Shardspear in book 5. Yes: marianmi, Mailliw73, Gloom. SETTLED: Yes. By book 5. Right: Aether. SETTLED: No. Renarin will become a Skybreaker. Wrong: Mailliw73. Right: Aether, Gloom. If Adolin becomes a KR, he will be a Dustbringer. Yes: Mailliw73. No: Aether. No more than half of the POV characters will become Radiants before the end of the series. Yes: Kurkistan, Mailliw73. No: Gloom. SETTLED: Yes. Gaz will resurface alive. Right: Fistsofrage, Mailliw73, Aether. No: . SETTLED: Yes. Bondsmiths are Order 10. Right: Moogle (+eat hat). No: . There is never going to be a real sex scene. Yes: Galladon, Mailliw73, Gloom. No: . Over 85% of all the theories in this thread will be wrong. Yes: Gamma Fiend. No: hoser, Mailliw73, Gloom, Aether. The gems built into pre-Recreance Shardplate were there since before the Recreance. Yes: hoser, Gloom. No: . SETTLED: No. Moash is a bastard son of a lighteye or he is a darkeye born of two lighteyes. Wrong: Natans, Mailliw73. Right: Gloom. By writing The Way of Kings, Nohadon altered how bonding Spren (Nahel Spren) select their human partners - much in the same way Geranid and Ashir were able to "lock" Flamespren to a certain measurement by writing down its values. Yes: Aether, Mailliw73. No: . From the Steelhunt forum: SETTLED: Yes. Darkness=Nalan. Right: Mailliw73, marianmi, Bloodfalcon, Ethrien, Gloom, ADIMORTIS, kraefzke. Wrong: jasonpenguin, Meg. Jezrien is incapacitated (drooling) or the "Have you seen me?" guy in the prelude. Yes: Mailliw73, marianmi, Bloodfalcon. No: hoser, stormfather, jasonpenguin, ADIMORTIS, Meg. SETTLED: No. Szeth kills the Azish primes after his conversation w/Mr. T at the end of tWoK. Wrong: hoser, Bloodfalcon, jasonpenguin. Right: stormfather, marianmi, Ethrien, Gloom, ADIMORTIS. One or more of the Heralds had a role in the Knights Radiant disbanding (Fistsof rage, please delete the post proposing this from the Stormlight Archive forum. I think it is an excellent claim, but spoilerific). Yes: Fistsofrage, Gloom, jasonpenguin, Bloodfalcon, kraefzke. No: ADIMORTIS. Kokerlii's (thought-detection-blocking bird) power works nearly identically to Allomantic copper, though perhaps on a different power-level. Yes: Kurkistan, ADIMORTIS No: jasonpenguin. Once an item is SETTLED, no more names will be added to that item. I will compile results later. Edited March 20, 2014 by hoser 3
The Count he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) SETTLED: Yes. Szeth is in possession of an Honorblade. Right: Aether, Bloodfalcon, Natans, marianmi, Gloom. Wrong: MadRand, hoser, Mailliw73, Kurkistan, dyring BOOOOOOOO! SETTLED: No. Shardblades are corrupted (Wrong: marianmi) by Odium. Wrong: Mailliw73. Right: MadRand, Natans, dyring. YAAAAAAAY! Edited March 20, 2014 by The Count
Delightful Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 SETTLED: No. Szeth kills the Azish primes after his conversation w/Mr. T at the end of tWoK. Wrong: hoser, Bloodfalcon, jasonpenguin. Right: stormfather, marianmi, Ethrien, Gloom, ADIMORTIS. How did you work out the timeline for this?
Bloodfalcon he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Awesome, glad you got to it, hoser. Number 15 though, I thought was already settled long ago. Brandon said that the glyphs represent the blades of the Orders LEXIEAre the symbols going to be further explained throughout the series? BRANDON SANDERSON Yeah, you want me to- let me open this up *opens WoK* what she’s talking about are the symbols right here, this does relate to the magic and to the Knights Radiant. I will eventually explain what it is but for right now it’s just there to be interesting and to look at. It should be telling that one of them ended up on the front of the book, this is actually the same symbol as one of these, just done in a slightly different style. This is what we call in the books the glyphs, the writing system, they actually can be read phonetically, but they are also partially art. The inspiration for these that I gave to the artist was the Arabic writing, where people actually, often take words and will do them as designs and these beautiful works of art, changing the words, and that’s what happened with the-you probably can’t see that very well- the embossing on this but that’s what happens with the writing system on this world and so the glyphs will usually will write them in the shape of something and that’s one of the glyphs written in the shape of a sword. So that will be explained eventually, it is something for the entire series, every book will have the same end pages like this so slowly over time you will understand that and I haven’t said anything at all about the one in the back, and I don’t intend to for quite a while. AND Which of the 10 Knights was supposed to be in book 1? I couldn’t tell. Is this by design? or did I miss the point? I’m not sure what the question means. Do you mean the Heralds? Or the ten orders of the Knights Radiant? The symbol stamped into the front of the first hardcover represents the Windrunners because of Kaladin’s awakening as a Windrunner. Also because of Szeth, but mostly because of Kaladin. It's not a flat out statement, but we know that that embossed glyph is of a sword, represents Windrunners, including Szeth who has the Honorblade alone to his name as a Windrunner. Was number 15 meant to say "images" in a very strict sense?
hoser he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Author Posted March 20, 2014 How did you work out the timeline for this? Chapter 2 is very soon after Mr. T's conversation w/Szeth. It includes "The emperor of Azir, dead." Before, talking to Mr.T, Szeth researches the hit, which must have taken some time. Awesome, glad you got to it, hoser. Number 15 though, I thought was already settled long ago. Brandon said that the glyphs represent the blades of the Orders It's not a flat out statement, but we know that that embossed glyph is of a sword, represents Windrunners, including Szeth who has the Honorblade alone to his name as a Windrunner. Was number 15 meant to say "images" in a very strict sense? Thanks for the evidence. I wasn't aware of that statement. The missing piece for me is the connection to the Honorblades. The radiant symbols are glyphs in the shape of a sword, yes. Jezrien's Honorblade is long and narrow, so that kinda fits the Windrunner glyph-sword if we ignore two thirds of the glyph. Taln's Honorblade is shaped like a spike, which I don't see in the Stoneward glyph-sword at all. This doesn't seem conclusive to me. What am I missing? Do other people see these as specifically the images of Honorblades?
Bloodfalcon he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Chapter 2 is very soon after Mr. T's conversation w/Szeth. It includes "The emperor of Azir, dead." Before, talking to Mr.T, Szeth researches the hit, which must have taken some time. Thanks for the evidence. I wasn't aware of that statement. The missing piece for me is the connection to the Honorblades. The radiant symbols are glyphs in the shape of a sword, yes. Jezrien's Honorblade is long and narrow, so that kinda fits the Windrunner glyph-sword if we ignore two thirds of the glyph. Taln's Honorblade is shaped like a spike, which I don't see in the Stoneward glyph-sword at all. This doesn't seem conclusive to me. What am I missing? Do other people see these as specifically the images of Honorblades? No, you are right, it's not very conclusive, but the Honorblades are really the only ones specific to each Order, correct? I mean the other blades are clearly able to take other shapes and stuff, and there appears to be a wide variety of styles there. So it just seems to be the only real reason they would represent both swords and Orders. I guess if I have to make a case for it, it is still technically not deserving of the all caps SETTLED tag yet.
Mailliw73 he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Well, I have 9 wrong ones and 4 right ones. Not so good. :/
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