Narcoleptic Axolotl Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Obviously take this with a pinch of copper. But it is my theory that Investiture manifests differently depending on what planet it appears on. I noticed that the magic on Scadrial is based on metal, hence the "Metallic" arts. Both Atium and Lerasium are metals, but come from different shards. Then on Roshar, Honor's power is stormlight. Now, I don't know about Cultivation, but Odium's power seems to be an opposite to Honor's, called voidlight. We don't know where Odium came from before, or how his power manifested there, so I don't have more than these two examples, though I find it hard to believe this is coincidence. Maybe it was the easiest way for Brandon to tell a good story, without having to get too technical and explain too much about the magic, but maybe there's something to this theory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) The magic systems on each planet involve how that Shard's (or Shards') particular flavor of investiture interacts with the nature of the planet, yeah. Edited May 1, 2018 by RShara 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatikis Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Narcoleptic Axolotl said: We don't know where Odium came from before, or how his power manifested there. Odium came from Ashyn. Non-cannon alert: The investiture was based off of sickness. Those that were sick gained powers from it. As to your theory as Rshara stated it is basically correct. The bit with Atium and Lerasium isn't quite right. The metals didn't just manifest because of the nature of Scadrial. Excess shardic power seems to often take the form of metal on any of the planets. For instance Shardblades are a godmetal. Edited May 1, 2018 by Fatikis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 Odium came from Yolen, actually Along with the rest of the original Vessels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatikis Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 41 minutes ago, RShara said: Odium came from Yolen, actually Along with the rest of the original Vessels. True. Odium had invested in Ashyn is what I should have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted May 1, 2018 Report Share Posted May 1, 2018 We don't actually know that for sure, either We know he was involved in the cataclysm, but not how much or whether he'd actually invested in the planet, or was there just long enough to influence people and mess it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcoleptic Axolotl Posted May 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 Thanks, guys. Nice to know I got something right for once. Just for clarification though, On 5/1/2018 at 10:58 AM, RShara said: We know he was involved in the cataclysm, but not whether was there just long enough to influence people and mess it up. What you say is officially true, but in OB, the Eila Stele says: Quote A new god. Their god. Now, it's worth noting that the Dawnsingers' perspective wouldn't be 100% accurate. But the wording implies that the voidbringers definitely belong to Odium. (or the other way around) Any more thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted May 4, 2018 Report Share Posted May 4, 2018 Quote Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] What was the order of the Shards coming to Roshar and changing allegiences? Did Humans come with Odium? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] So... you're talking about on Roshar specifically? So, Odium had visited Roshar. The humans gave him more of an ear... The Dawnsingers would have considered him the god of the people who had come, but-- I mean, it wasn't like they necessarily brought him. He was capable of getting around before that. I mean, he did kinda come along with them, he was instrumental in what happened there. Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW] Okay, but he was separate, and after Honor and Cultivation had really settled there? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Yes, he was after Honor and Cultivation had settled. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtafa Posted May 7, 2018 Report Share Posted May 7, 2018 Gemhearts are also mentioned as being formed from leaking investiture, similar to Atium and stormlight. I'm guessing this is the case for most shards and their power, so you would be right in some regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Reader Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 On May 1, 2018 at 0:01 PM, Fatikis said: The investiture was based off of sickness. Those that were sick gained powers from it. The Young Elites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatikis Posted May 8, 2018 Report Share Posted May 8, 2018 16 hours ago, Random Reader said: The Young Elites? ...I don't know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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