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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

Vin was more confused regarding their relationship since she was also crushing on him. Kelsier, naturally, never notices. But Vin does say that Kelsier was like a father to her.

And as of Secret History Kelsier is straight up calling her his daughter, so that annotation is a bit outdated. A later one says Kelsier is dead and not coming back, so...

This isn’t theory so much as a difference of opinion on what constitutes a parent-child relationship. You probably wouldn’t consider my aunt my aunt, for example.

Older adoptees are less likely to acknowledge their adoptive parents as their parents for a variety of reasons. The parents, however, usually acknowledge the kids.

Had I ended up with a third sister, I doubt she would have ever considered my mother ‘hers’ the same way she did her bio mom. (Who was a great person, btw. She had a psychotic break after her husband up and left.) But my mother would have considered her wholly her daughter. I know her actual adoptive mom does. And if certainly count her as a child of both her biological and adoptive moms.

Back to the game:

This character is known for their stories.

I'm not necessarily saying that she isn't his daughter, I'm just saying that it would be a headcannon, just like if I was a Syladin shipper and my character was Syl, I couldn't say "this character has a crush on a human" as a clue.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

1: This character is known for their stories.

Sigzil

Posted
18 minutes ago, AonDii said:

I'm not necessarily saying that she isn't his daughter, I'm just saying that it would be a headcannon, just like if I was a Syladin shipper and my character was Syl, I couldn't say "this character has a crush on a human" as a clue.

The text in Secret History refers to Vin as Kelsier’s daughter, which is why I say she is. If the text only ever said she was ‘like’ his daughter then I wouldn’t write that. But the text actually calls her his daughter.

This is NOT the same as Kell being Vin’s father, which is headcannon. Vin as Kelsier’s daughter has textual basis. And if Vin is Kelsier’s daughter - as the text says she is - then she is Marsh’s niece. This does not make Marsh her uncle (which would require Vin acknowledging Kelsier as her father in-text), which is why I didn’t say he was one.

To use your example: if Kaladin was thinking that he wishes Syl was human so they could marry, it would be valid to say he has a crush on Syl. It would not be fair to say the reverse. Ergo, I can say Vin is Kelsier’s daughter as a hint, but not that Kelsier is her father.

9 minutes ago, animalia said:

@Kingsdaughter613Hoid seems like the obvious choice. Also thank you

 

14 minutes ago, Chinkoln said:

Sigzil

No to both.

This character is known for their stories.

This character has mentioned Spren... sometimes.

Posted
1 minute ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

The text in Secret History refers to Vin as Kelsier’s daughter, which is why I say she is. If the text only ever said she was ‘like’ his daughter then I wouldn’t write that. But the text actually calls her his daughter.

This is NOT the same as Kell being Vin’s father, which is headcannon. Vin as Kelsier’s daughter has textual basis. And if Vin is Kelsier’s daughter - as the text says she is - then she is Marsh’s niece. This does not make Marsh her uncle (which would require Vin acknowledging Kelsier as her father in-text), which is why I didn’t say he was one.

To use your example: if Kaladin was thinking that he wishes Syl was human so they could marry, it would be valid to say he has a crush on Syl. It would not be fair to say the reverse. Ergo, I can say Vin is Kelsier’s daughter as a hint, but not that Kelsier is her father.

then why doesn't a coppermind page that is often updated not list Vin as Kel's daughter?

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, AonDii said:

then why doesn't a coppermind page that is often updated not list Vin as Kel's daughter?

I don’t know. Why isn’t Jasnah listed as Dalinar’s stepdaughter or Elhokar as his stepson? Or Gavinor as his (step)grandson? All of which the text makes pretty clear? Maybe the editors have a bias toward biological children/against adopted/step ones?

Now, can we please drop this and get back to the game?

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

This character is known for their stories.

This character has mentioned Spren... sometimes.

Nohadon (The author of The Way of Kings)

Posted
4 minutes ago, Kingsdaughter613 said:

This person is from an area where blonde hair is fairly common.

Heleran

Posted
1 minute ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Hoid/Wit

We’re on to a new character now... that one was Slowswift.

1: This person is from an area where blonde hair is fairly common.

2: This person is quite brash.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, animalia said:

Drehy

Nope!

This person is from an area where blonde hair is fairly common.

This person is quite brash.

This person has been/is a king.

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