Guess That Cosmere Character! Forum Edition!

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

1 minute ago, animalia said:

@Kingsdaughter613Correct. The remaining clues were.

2: This character has been shown to use a blade.
3: This character is married during at least one point of their story.
4: This character has a dead mom. #Shocker
5: This character is/was a Zombie.

This was originally something I had emailed to the Shardcast but I wanted to share it with you guys.

If I get another turn I will have an original one, but still with 5 clues to go.

.... Seriously?! And I thought that was a totally out there guess...

This character witnessed a murder.

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Sarene

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

No to both.

This character witnessed a murder.

This character has a niece.

[Chinkoln he/him]

Just now, Kingsdaughter613 said:

No to both.

This character witnessed a murder.

This character has a niece.

Dalinar

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

1 minute ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Kiin

 

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Dalinar

Nope!

This character witnessed a murder.

This character has a niece.

This character was presumed dead.

[Chinkoln he/him]

Ya know, I feel like more than half of all characters were presumed dead at one point or another

Edited February 2, 2021 by Chinkoln

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Lightsong/Stennimar

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

2 minutes ago, Chinkoln said:

Ya know, I feel like more than half of all characters were presumed dead at one point or another

True. But this one was rather notable. I will specify that the character did not actually die at any point; he was simply presumed dead. He may have died after though, but not at the point where he was presumed dead. No Kelsier type situation here.

@AonDii No, sorry. Stenimar actually died and came back.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Kingsdaughter613

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

Just now, More Cynical Than Funny said:

Marsh!

Yes!

The final clue was going to be: This character has the Cosmere’s most annoying baby brother.

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since when does Kel have a daughter?

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I go by the family section of the Coppermind

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Just now, More Cynical Than Funny said:

I didn't know if you were counting Vin as Kell's child so that was a bit confusing

Can I go next?

Yes, whoever wins gets first dibs on going next

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Stennimar

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Just now, More Cynical Than Funny said:

sweet

1) This character was dead

Szeth

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1 minute ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

sweet

1) This character was dead

Does this mean that they came back to life at some point, or could they still be dead?

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

5 minutes ago, AonDii said:

since when does Kel have a daughter?

 

5 minutes ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

I didn't know if you were counting Vin as Kell's child so that was a bit confusing

Can I go next?

Since he decided Vin was. Note: my oldest niece is adopted and I very nearly had an adopted sister. One of my great-aunts is also adopted. I have... opinions on adopted children. Namely that they are the same as biological ones.

As far as I’m concerned, Kelsier acknowledges Vin as his daughter and she recognizes him as the closest thing she has to a father. Kelsier straight up calls her his daughter. And that’s enough for me.

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Kelsier

Edited February 2, 2021 by Kingsdaughter613

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

1 minute ago, More Cynical Than Funny said:

look at the term "was"

Kelsier, in case you didn’t see my edit.

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what is death  Kelsier

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Since he decided Vin was. Note: my oldest niece is adopted and I very nearly had an adopted sister. One of my great-aunts is also adopted. I have... opinions on adopted children. Namely that they are the same as biological ones.

As far as I’m concerned, Kelsier acknowledges Vin as his daughter and she recognizes him as the closest thing she has to a father. Kelsier straight up calls her his daughter. And that’s enough for me.

@More Cynical Than Funny Winner goes next and that’s you!

Still, for this game, it is best to use what is explicitly said in the books or in WoBs. If Vin spoke to him and addressed him as "Father" or if she talked about him as her father, then this would make sense. IMO being a father figure =/= being a father.

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

5 minutes ago, AonDii said:

what is death  Kelsier

Still, for this game, it is best to use what is explicitly said in the books or in WoBs. If Vin spoke to him and addressed him as "Father" or if she talked about him as her father, then this would make sense. IMO being a father figure =/= being a father.

“She embraced him, and he found himself weeping. The daughter he’d never had, the little child of the streets. Though she was still small, she’d outgrown him. And she loved him anyway. He held his daughter close against his own broken soul.”

Kelsier calls her his daughter. Explicitly. And that’s enough for me. (Especially since many adoptions in my community are not legal ones since we try to avoid having kids enter the system.)

This character is known for his stories.

Edited February 2, 2021 by Kingsdaughter613

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Yet when she is talking about him after his death, she never calls him her father

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when did she call him her father?

[animalia]

@Kingsdaughter613I love that final clue of yours.

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Brandon Sanderson

Also, I think it was about time to establish firmly the relationship between Kelsier and Vin. She–if you haven't guessed–has a bit of a hero-worship crush going on with him. It will never be stated explicitly, but it's there, and kind of has to be there.

Kelsier, however, regards her like a protégé, and perhaps even a daughter. That's it. I apologize to those who were looking for a romance between the two. I realize that I'm breaking some laws of storytelling by introducing a female viewpoint in chapter one, then a male viewpoint in chapter two, and not having them get into any sort of romantic way. However, that's not what this book is about. Kelsier is not only much older than Vin, he really doesn't look for relationships any more. Not his focus in life right now.

I never intended there to be any romantic tension between the two of them. However, some of my alpha readers were hoping to find it–and found more than I anticipated. So, I added the lines here from Kelsier about wishing he had a daughter, just so I could make things clear.

Mistborn: The Final Empire Annotations (Jan. 9, 2007)

 

I would like to point to this annotation. It specifically says that Kel regards Vin like a daughter, and that Vin has a hero-worship crush thing on him.

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It is just annoying that people use their theories as canon

[Kingsdaughter613 she/her]

1 minute ago, AonDii said:

when did she call him her father?

Vin was more confused regarding their relationship since she was also crushing on him. Kelsier, naturally, never notices. But Vin does say that Kelsier was like a father to her.

And as of Secret History Kelsier is straight up calling her his daughter, so that annotation is a bit outdated. A later one says Kelsier is dead and not coming back, so...

This isn’t theory so much as a difference of opinion on what constitutes a parent-child relationship. You probably wouldn’t consider my aunt my aunt, for example.

Older adoptees are less likely to acknowledge their adoptive parents as their parents for a variety of reasons. The parents, however, usually acknowledge the kids.

Had I ended up with a third sister, I doubt she would have ever considered my mother ‘hers’ the same way she did her bio mom. (Who was a great person, btw. She had a psychotic break after her husband up and left.) But my mother would have considered her wholly her daughter. I know her actual adoptive mom does. And if certainly count her as a child of both her biological and adoptive moms.

Back to the game:

This character is known for their stories.