Toaster Retribution Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Our only Sons of Honor character (Amaram) is dead, and we have not really seen other members. The Desolation has arrived, and some Heralds are moving (Nale, Ishar, Taln, Ash), and so part one of their objective is basically fulfilled. Will we get more from them? Will Restares, or someone else, emerge from the shadows. Will they be allies? Enemies? Or are they insignificant now? What is the future of the Sons of Honor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBurtReynolds Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I just kind of figured that they had their time and served their purpose so now they'll drift on out of the plot. It seems to me that the story has outgrown the need for them...Of course, I'm probably totally wrong and they'll end up being a driving force in Book 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Procrastinationspren Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, NotBurtReynolds said: I just kind of figured that they had their time and served their purpose so now they'll drift on out of the plot. It seems to me that the story has outgrown the need for them...Of course, I'm probably totally wrong and they'll end up being a driving force in Book 4 While I agree with you about them serving their purpose, it would be uncharacteristic of Brandon to just let a thing like this fade out of the story. I'm expecting either more from them or at least some sort of closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 IIRC, they were trying to make use of Renarin at one point. Are they more than a group of Stormwardens at this point? Still, an organized, literate and ambitious group could be dangerous under informed direction. Are they open to being used at this point? It seems like they could be recruited. And what of Restares? Who are they? What are their goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejopen27 Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Restares is the key. He seems to be the leader of the Sons of Honor. We still haven't really seen the fallout of Dalinar being excomunicated nor have we seen much of the response of the higher-ups in Vorinism to the desolation. If one were looking for Restares, a good place to look would be within the ruling council of Vorinism. (It's possible that Restares is actually one name that Ishar is using, I know the Stormfather says that Ishar is Tezim, but it's possible he's also Restares.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBurtReynolds Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 After further thought, I've realized I was being shortsighted...I thought the SoH would be left without much to do, narratively speaking, but I was focusing too much on their goals of returning the Voidbringers and the Heralds. But they were doing that to restore the power of the Vorin Church and that's what I lost sight of. The Church will certainly have reactions to the events of OB and I could see SoH as their militaristic arm, giving them plenty to do Maybe its Restares at their head, maybe we see someone like Kadash either being recruited to them or already being a part of them. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if at some point we find out there's a secret Herald in the upper levels of the Church. For whatever the reason ends up being, there's likely a faction of the Church who wishes to return to the Hierocracy and it would make total sense for the SoH to be their avatar going forward. It makes so much sense, that I wish to delete my previous post but I will leave it up and let the shamespren teach me a lesson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotBurtReynolds Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Also, I think we're going to see a lot of Ghostbloods v. Sons Honor/The Church, as Im starting to think that opposition of the Vorin Church is the main goal of the Ghostbloods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aemetha Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Crackpot theory: The Sons of Honor ARE the Ghostbloods, at least at the upper most levels. What better way to conceal your motives than to play both sides. I admit though, it is a bit crackpot. Afterall, it's not like you could have MI5 working for the KGB is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolven Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 9 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: Our only Sons of Honor character (Amaram) is dead, and we have not really seen other members. The Desolation has arrived, and some Heralds are moving (Nale, Ishar, Taln, Ash), and so part one of their objective is basically fulfilled. Will we get more from them? Will Restares, or someone else, emerge from the shadows. Will they be allies? Enemies? Or are they insignificant now? What is the future of the Sons of Honor? I am not so sure we haven't seen other members of the Sons of Honor. I am of the belief that the ardents that excommunicated Dalinar may have been members. I remember Dalinar thinking something along the lines that their clothing seemed much more ornate than they should be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 @thejopen27 It's extremely unlikely that Restares is Ishar. First of all, the whole point of the sons of Honor is about call what the Heralds want to avoid in order to make them return. It's a no sense for an Heralds to want that. Much more for an Heralds Who is in contact with the others (at least one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejopen27 Posted December 11, 2017 Report Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Yata said: @thejopen27 It's extremely unlikely that Restares is Ishar. First of all, the whole point of the sons of Honor is about call what the Heralds want to avoid in order to make them return. It's a no sense for an Heralds to want that. Much more for an Heralds Who is in contact with the others (at least one) This presupposes that Ishtar has gone over to Odium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.S.A.M.K.M Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 In the search for the knight radians and void bringers, the sons of honor could have uncovered a lot of useful lore. They knew about the need of special gem stones, they could know of the hidden collection of the Elsecallers. Also if the queen and Amaran could be co opted by the enemy, the whole group is suspect of collusion with the enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostlander Posted December 14, 2017 Report Share Posted December 14, 2017 I imagine they'll at least be players until the prologues surrounding Gavilar's death end with book 5. Whether that will wrap up their story or make them even more important in future books is anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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