Egomere Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 As the title topic. I've been wondering if now Dalinar has reforged some of Honour's power and seemingly overridden the previous intent to Unity does that mean he could now slowly lose his 'personality' into the the pure form of Unity - much like how the Stormfather and others declared that Honour lost the meaning behind making oaths and focussed on keeping whatever oath (Letter of the Oath rather than Spirit). Will he slowly just press for Unity for all without regard for consequences etc...? Much like all the previous Shardholders had happen to them. Ati taking Ruin and no longer being the nice, generous person he used to be, Harmony holding two and balancing between them in order to be able to do anything and even then it's all a balance with like entropy vs growth... The only one that might not fit the formula is Rayse himself - who by all accounts wasn't a particularly nice person before he took up Odium. Or maybe it shows that Strong personalities can control the Shardic Intent and Power for their own purposes (so we need not worry at Dalinar is def. a strong personality; even stronger now he's accepted his pain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reborn radiant Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 It would take a LOT of time, I am guessing at least tens or hundreds of years, for a shard's intent to completely override the holder's mind. Mistborn spoilers all. Spoiler Sazed is still more or less Sazed (not completely. Some of the actions he has done are definitely not Sazed-y) despite holding Harmony for hundreds of years. So I don't think Dalinar is in any danger at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sovereign Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 (edited) I doubt Dalinar will have his self overwritten by the Unity Intent. Dalinar is likely a Sliver now and not really a Vessel. He touched a large chunk of Honor's Investiture, but not the entirety. I suspect Dalinar's Ascension is more like Rashek's at the Well of Ascension than say Sazed's Ascension. With that said, Dalinar is now heavily connected to Honor and I suspect ultimately, he will un-splinter Honor and truly Ascend. Edited November 21, 2017 by The Sovereign 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepene Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 https://brandonsanderson.com/annotation-mistborn-3-chapter-eighty-one-part-4/ Quote This was the role Preservation chose Vin to play all those years ago. As she surmises, he needed someone to do what he could not. He had been too corrupted by his power, and could not destroy Ruin. If Vin had held the power for millennia as Preservation had before her, then she too would have lost the ability to destroy Ruin. It takes millennia for them to truly be overridden by shardic intent, and he's not touching much power. He's not in too much danger. There will certainly be some emotional impact of course, as with anyone who starts to become a savant level power toucher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Investor Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I wouldn't read to much into the Unity part. Dalinar sees himself as Unity, because he's supposed to bring people together, not because he's ascended to a new Unity shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjl Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 I thought "I am Unity" was his 3rd Ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrolGenhald Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, rjl said: I thought "I am Unity" was his 3rd Ideal. Interesting thought, but it sounds too much like his 2nd ideal to be something new. Coppermind says the third ideal is "I will take responsibility for what I have done. If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjl Posted November 21, 2017 Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, AndrolGenhald said: Interesting thought, but it sounds too much like his 2nd ideal to be something new. Coppermind says the third ideal is "I will take responsibility for what I have done. If I must fall, I will rise each time a better man." I guess it's ambiguous, Dalinar says one then the other. The Stormfather says "These words are accepted" after Dalinar says "I am unity", but I suppose it could just be that he took some time to recover from Odium pushing him away and he didn't get a chance to say it sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egomere Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 Well I definatly took 'I am Unity' as a statement of Intent reforging rather than his Ideal Honour splinters he could get his hands on at that time... so I guess it might make more sense that he's a Stronger Sliver / splinter of Immortality (as some of Honour's power is still in the Stormfather / Honourblades and whatever else he lost over time death and being splintered). I would be of the mind that his third ideal was the 'I will take resposibility for what have done...' quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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