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From this week's chapters: (I can't believe nobody has made a topic about this already)

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[The Iriali Queen] wants to do it now. Apparently, her court tidereader saw something in the waves that means an earlier meeting is better.

This is a strange glimpse into the Iriali tradition, since we already know of other aspects of their religion (Which the Queen is shown to follow quite heavily) such as all coming from and returning to the One, and the value of experiences. Tidereading just seems completely... off, when compared to the rest of their beliefs, considering that they do not believe in gods, and also that they originate from another planet entirely. (Random speculation: one of their prior planets actually did have tides that bore messages/omens, leading to this tradition). However, there is something which many Iriali revere, and may be related to the tides.
Cusicesh is the giant spren that was seen by Axies the Collector in an interlude in the Way of Kings, who appears by the coast of Kasitor, a very large Iriali city. Could it be related to tidereading?

On another important note; does tidereading have actual merit? It led to Dalinar having his consultation with the Queen in the sparring grounds, while Dalinar was sparring with Kadash. Obviously, that influenced Dalinar's dialogue in some ways, but was it for the better?

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In Ishikk's interlude in WoK, it's implied that they read omens in the tides of the Purelake as well.

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The tides had been irregular, as if the Purelake itself was in a foul mood. Bad days were coming; sure as the sun and tide they were.

So maybe there is something to it, But I'm not sure the Iriali would be looking at the Purelake. I might be wrong, but I thought their capital was on the other coast.

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2 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

It might be inspired by the Thaylen Passions. They are also wierd, seen as pagan superstition by the Vorin Church.

Aren't the Thaylen and Iriali peoples completely different? Like one has eyebrows past their ears, the other has metallic-looking golden hair, and they're located on the opposite sides of the continent.

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12 minutes ago, Salkara said:

Aren't the Thaylen and Iriali peoples completely different? Like one has eyebrows past their ears, the other has metallic-looking golden hair, and they're located on the opposite sides of the continent.

Yes they are, but their cultures can still inspire eachother. Thaylens are traders, and travel all over Roshar. We have seen them in both Shinovar and Kharbranth, as well as on the Shattered Plains. They are most likely selling stuff in Iri as well.

We also have the fact that the Irali seeks knowledge. They might have borrowed the Tidereader from the Thaylens. It wouldn't be far-fetched to assume that Thaylens have similar things to a Tidereader either. They have a big fleet and live on an island, so the sea should be important. 

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