Importance of the Chapter Headings

[Tesh Any pronouns]

1 hour ago, Firerust said:

Oh, that's right! I forgot to mention that! As I was looking through WoK I found a wild card the Ishikk interlude -- a totally unfamiliar face that's not associated with any Herald. It's some smiley guy who looks like he's wearing a mask and a tri-cornered hat. And he keeps on appearing throughout the headings. I honestly don't know what to do about that.

@Sami thinks that it is Hoid, and I agree. 

I'll post the list when I finish typing it out.

 

[King Cole he/him]

Just now, Tesh said:

@Sami thinks that it is Hoid, and I agree. 

I'll post the list when I finish typing it out.

 

It could be Hoid, but I don't think we have enough info

[Sami she/her]

I'm pretty sure the masked guy is in all the chapters where Hoid is. I'll have to check again, tho

Edited September 13, 2017 by Sami

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

I'm pretty sure that it is a general assumption that the Joker is Hoids symbol. Him being the eventual zero is a good guess. Great job guys!

[Tesh Any pronouns]

I'd also like to make a list of all the death rattles. I don't really know why, but it would be interesting.

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

3 minutes ago, Tesh said:

I'd also like to make a list of all the death rattles. I don't really know why, but it would be interesting.

I think there is one at Coppermind.

[Tesh Any pronouns]

12 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said:

I think there is one at Coppermind.

I still would like to do it. 

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

5 minutes ago, Tesh said:

I still would like to do it. 

I'll be here and cheer you on. 

[Tesh Any pronouns]

@Toaster Retribution At least it's shorter than WoR! And there's about ten less chapters.

[Toaster Retribution he/him]

3 minutes ago, Tesh said:

@Toaster Retribution At least it's shorter than WoR! And there's about ten less chapters.

Go for it!

[King Cole he/him]

It wasn't easy doing WoR, especially since I broke my wrist. I also restarted at chapter 19 because that was the first instance of double heralds and I had to check to see if I missed any of those.

Edit: Are you gonna have access to a computer anytime soon @Tesh, I wanna see the WoK chapters

Edited September 13, 2017 by King Cole

[Borio Singaldi he/him]

Okay, here's what I have of the first three parts of WoK and the interludes up to part four. I numbered it with Jezrien as 1, Nale as 2, and up to Taln as 9 and Ishar as 0. The "Hoid" appearances have been labeled as a question mark, since I'm already using Ishar for 0:

112244339955990055224411??88661?3118134994771444248?403127919415775522

When I do parts four and five, I'll add those on.

[King Cole he/him]

Is this including the chapters that have two heralds?

[King Cole he/him]

Tonight, I'm gonna do WoK so that anyone who wants to try it can. Expect it later rather than sooner though. I will try to do it tonight

[Borio Singaldi he/him]

5 minutes ago, King Cole said:

Is this including the chapters that have two heralds?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I'll go with saying yes. We see four Herald faces in each chapter heading, but I'm counting them in their pairs, so it's two numbers per chapter.

[The One Who Connects he/him]

11 minutes ago, Firerust said:

18 minutes ago, King Cole said:

Is this including the chapters that have two heralds?

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but I'll go with saying yes. We see four Herald faces in each chapter heading, but I'm counting them in their pairs, so it's two numbers per chapter.

First Chapter is all Jezrien, and he has 11. So I would say that it appears that he is doing it correctly.

I will say that the combined chapters aren't neat pairs, per se. Epilogue of Book 2 is a pair of Battars and a pair of Hoids, but they are split with one of each on each side of the chapter number. No idea if that would be significant or not, but it's worth noting how they are arranged for those.

[King Cole he/him]

Just now, The One Who Connects said:

I will say that the combined chapters aren't neat pairs, per se. Epilogue of Book 2 is a pair of Battars and a pair of Hoids, but they are split with one of each on each side of the chapter number. No idea if that would be significant or not, but it's worth noting how they are arranged for those.

Yeah, I noted double herald chapters where I put the heralds for every chapter

[King Cole he/him]

Also, I don't have it as Hoid, but rather unknown unless we have confirmation its Hoid

[The One Who Connects he/him]

5 minutes ago, King Cole said:

Also, I don't have it as Hoid, but rather unknown unless we have confirmation its Hoid

I was under the impression that we did. Hrmm.. I'll check around in a bit

[Tesh Any pronouns]

I hand wrote it, so I'm typing it all down on a doc, so one I'm done, I'll copy and paste it. I'm also making some other lists.

[Seloun]

The last chapter of WoR ('The Four') has four heralds.

[Borio Singaldi he/him]

On 9/14/2017 at 0:00 AM, Seloun said:

The last chapter of WoR ('The Four') has four heralds.

GAH! You're right, it does!

ERROR. CANNOT COMPUTE. CANNOT COMPUTE.

And I thought the "Hoid" faces stumped me. I'm starting to think this might be a lost cause and that I should apologize for wasting all of y'all's time. We'll see.

[Harakeke]

I've always suspected the portraits indicate which Heraldic Attributes (e.g. Jezrien = Protecting/Leading) feature prominently in the chapter.

per Peter Ahlstrom:

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The correspondence can be from any column on the essences table in the Ars Arcanum, or a few columns that are not on the publicly revealed table.
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They are not actually portraits of those characters. But there's not a row for the Masked Man.

 

[Tesh Any pronouns]

Here ya go. Just finished typing it down.

The key is for the point of view/s that the chapter is in.

List of Heralds at Beginning of Each Chapter- The Way of Kings

                  Key

K	Kaladin
S	Shallan
Sz	Szeth
D	Dalinar
H	Hoid
A	Adolin
N	Navani
KFB	Kaladin Flash Back
I-#	Interlude

 

Prolouge: Jezrian- Sz

1. Talenel- Cenn

2. Vedel- K

3. Shalash- S

4. Talenel- K

5. Paliah- S

6. Talenel- K

7. Ishar- S

8. Paliah- S

9. Nale- K

10. Vedel- KFB

11. Jezrian- K

I-1. Hoid?

I-2. Kalak

I-3. Shalash- Sz

12. Jezrian, Hoid- A

13. Chanrach, Jezrian- D

14. Jezrian, Kalak- K

15. Jezrian, Chanrach- A, D

16. Vedel, Talenel- KFB

17. Vedel, Talenel- K

18. Battar- A, D

19. Jezrian, Vedel- D

20. Vedel- KFB

21. Talenel, Vedel- K

22. Kalak, Hoid- D

23. Vedel, Ishar- K

24. Chanrach, Jezrian- D, A

25. Nale, Battar- KFB

26. Talenel, Jezrian- D

27. Talenel, Vedel- K

28. Jezrian, Palian- A, D

I-4. Battar

I-5. Palian

I-6. Nale- Sz

29. Palian, Shalash- S

30. Talenel, Vedel- K, Gaz

31. Vedel, Chanrach- KFB

32. Talenel, Nale- K

33. Paliah, Ishar- S

34. Nale, Jezrian- K

35. Jezrian- K, Teft

36. Paliah, Nale- S

37. Vedel, Paliah- KFB

38. Vedel, Jezrian- K, Teft

39. Shalash, Nale- S

40. Talenel, Kalak- K

41. Vedel, Nale- KFB

42. Ishar, Paliah- S

43. Talenel- K

44. Vedel, Talenel- KFB

45. Paliah, Shalash- S

46. Jezrian, Chanrach- K

47. Talenel, Nale- KFB

48. Ishar- S

49. Talenel, Kalak- K

50. Vedel- S

51. Nale- KFB

I-7. Shalash

I-8. Paliah

I-9. Jezrian, Nale- Sz

52. Jezrian, Talenel- A, D

53. Vedel- K

54. Hoid, Nale- D

55. Talenel, Jezrian- K

56. Jezrian, Chanrach- D

57. Hoid, Jezrian- K

58. Jezrian, Battar- A, D

59. Kalak, Jezrian- K

60. Jezrian, Paliah- D

61. Talenel, Kalak- D

62. Talenel, Vedel- K

63. Kalak, Chanrach- K

64. Talenel, Battar- D, K, A

65. Chanrach, Nale- K, D

66. Vedel, Nale- K, D

67. Jezrian- K, D, KFB, Teft

68. Chanrach, Battar- A, Teft, D

69. Shalash, Nale- Navani, D, K

70. Shalash, Battar- S

71. Vedel, Nale- Sz

72. Paliah- S

73. Jezrian, Vedel- K

74. Paliah, Ishar- S

75. Jezrian- D

Epilouge: Hoid, Talenel- H

Edited September 16, 2017 by Tesh

[Borio Singaldi he/him]

@Tesh, that is very well done.