AnonymousFan Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 So I finished WOR not long ago, and I was thinking. In one of the WOB's there was a statement that there were 3 intelligent races on Yolen. So what if one of them were Parhendi? That's why there's parshendi on Roshar. Because all the other shards in the other books so far were human, and the planets had human inhabitants in them. So it makes sense that humans were of honor, and the parshendi who came later were from Odium. Does that make sense? Or what if Cultivation isn't human... Someone should ask Brandon that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I'll just drop these here. http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1069#17 Quote QUESTION Are the Parshendi of Odium? BRANDON SANDERSON Not originally. http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1069#18 Quote QUESTION Are the Parshendi of Cultivation? BRANDON SANDERSON Not originally. http://www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1069#29 Quote QUESTION Are the Parshendi of Honor? BRANDON SANDERSON No. We also know that the Parshendi are native to Roshar and predate the arrival of the Shards. The third race on Yolen was called the Shodel, and the only things I've seen of them were very very different than the Parshendi, but they're from a Non-Canon source... So I don't know that that's relevant. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thanatos Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 Quote So at the signing in Cracow, Brandon answered my question about Rayse's/Odium's humanity. I asked whether the Vessel was human and the response I got was that he used to be human, but is something different now. cosmere_brandon_sanderson_on_rayseodium/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 13 hours ago, Thanatos said: cosmere_brandon_sanderson_on_rayseodium/ Quote Q:I wanted to ask, is the shardbearer of Odium a human? A: Not any longer. Q:Ok, that's... I didn't expect that one A: But what the answer to your question you really want to know is, was he originally human? Q:yeah A:Yes. That's a good question! That's from Kraków (transcript in the first post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy92 Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 I would like to believe that he is now a dragon. Let the real Last Desolation commence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidWayne he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 So, isn't Bandon's statement that the vessel of any shard is no longer human kind of obvious? My first impression was to think that Odium's vessel (i.e. Rayse) has been transformed or corrupted into something inhuman, but I wonder whether BS was just trying to say that as a shard-holder he is no longer human. If you think that Rayse has been transformed into something alien, I'd love to hear why you think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted August 18, 2017 Report Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, KidWayne said: My first impression was to think that Odium's vessel (i.e. Rayse) has been transformed or corrupted into something inhuman, but I wonder whether BS was just trying to say that as a shard-holder he is no longer human. This is exactly it in my opinion. Once a being has been expanded mentally and spiritually to that extent, and their physical body no longer exists as it can't contain that much power, it can no longer be defined as human. Whatever the Vessels were originally, they're Shards now. If they choose to present themselves, they'll probably do it in the form they were familiar with previously, but that form is no longer what they are. Edited August 18, 2017 by Calderis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toaster Retribution he/him Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 This whole not-human anymore deal is pretty much why I want someone to ask Brandon what Bavadins original race and gender was, before she picked up the shard. When it comes to the OP, it seems like Rayse = Parshendi is disproved by multiple sources. Rayse was human, and now he is a Shard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted August 19, 2017 Report Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said: This whole not-human anymore deal is pretty much why I want someone to ask Brandon what Bavadins original race and gender was, before she picked up the shard. Relevant: Quote Bavadin has several male personas, and has often appeared as male for one purpose or another, so it's not that much of an issue. She has more female personas, but some of the male ones are quite popular. This won't be relevant for a long while, but as a service to the community, let me say this: try not to get too hung up on gender, race, or even human appearance where Bavadin is concerned. There are some peoples who worship entire pantheons where every member is actually her. Bavadin is awesome. One regret of finally moving on from White Sand (and doing the graphic novel, instead of doing an entire trilogy myself) is because I won't get to show her off as a character for a while. It should still happen, mind you, but I have enough on my plate right now that I just can't do it all. I'm going to be pretty tight-lipped for now. Let's at least let White Sand finish first--you will find her in there, though her touch on the story (directly) is light. She prefers to allow her personas to become the focus of attention. source 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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