Fatling he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Sooo I tried to find anything about this because it seemed like kind of a theme to me, but I didn't really see much, so if somebody already brought this up someone can just lock this thread and downvote me a bunch also, there will be some spoilerness for AoL and White Sand, just so you know. I've been noticing a pattern of people suddenly gaining lots of power right before they die. Two specific examples come to mind, Praxton from White Sand (at least it seems that way in the graphic novel, though not as much in the prose version), and Miles at the end of AoL when he's shot like a zillion times. There's also another example in the White Sand prose but I'll neglect that one because the prose version isn't canon and it isn't widely distributed. I think there might be some more examples of it, but I can't thing of them and it's been quite a while since I've read some of these books. What really caught my attention, though, was something I caught when I was rereading Warbreaker. Unfortunately, I don't know how to do one of those fancy quote boxes, so I'll just summarize it (I can't remember where it is anyway)- it says something along the lines of "there are some people that when they are about to die their Breath gets really strong". That was when I realized that there was something going on, since before then I had just assumed it was just dramatic flair or something. So that's kind of it, just that there's this pattern of random people getting a special burst of strength before they die. I don't really have any theories about why it happens, but if you do or if there are other examples of it that I missed post 'em here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 I cannot speak to White Sand, but I always figured Miles had swallowed some small Goldminds so they couldn't be taken from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatling he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 (edited) Huh, I guess I could see that. That makes me curious, is it possible to tap (feruchemically) something that's been eaten as opposed to burning it (allomantically) like that. I guess there's no reason it wouldn't be possible. Off topic, though edit: Calderis answered that one, never mind Edited July 16, 2017 by Fatling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderis he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, Fatling said: Huh, I guess I could see that. That makes me curious, is it possible to tap (feruchemically) something that's been eaten as opposed to burning it (allomantically) like that. I guess there's no reason it wouldn't be possible. Off topic, though Miles was a compounder. If he swallowed gold and had either stored in it before, or after he swallowed it, burning it would give him an excess of the feruchemical power. That's why he was so ridiculously hard to kill to begin with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 This Reddit WoB from yesterday isn't quite what you're asking but is something. Mainly posting it coz I usty saw it in my Reddit browse. Quote GrimoireHearts • 2d All of this is information readily accepted by all of the 17thshard though. It's on their official wiki coppermind.net and can be found there. Paging /u/mistborn Does Miles burn his goldmind piercings or does he swallow them mistborn • 1d I'd have to grab the notes to be sure--it's been a while since I've dealt with Miles--but as I recall, he's done both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oversleep Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Fatling said: Unfortunately, I don't know how to do one of those fancy quote boxes, so I'll just summarize it (I can't remember where it is anyway)- it says something along the lines of "there are some people that when they are about to die their Breath gets really strong". I've reread Warbreaker fairly recently and I don't recall such quote. There is a bit about Breath flickering and colors fluctuating when person is dying (see Lemex passing away) but that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Others already covered Miles' case but Praxton was always strong like that...Simply in that case he didn't follow the Sandmasers' failsafe because he was about to die anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 11 hours ago, Fatling said: is it possible to tap (feruchemically) something that's been eaten as opposed to burning it (allomantically) like that. Ignoring the fact that Miles was a compounder, you can tap/burn in more places than you'd think. A Mistborn might accidentally burn her copper IUD, Sazed tapped his Metalminds that were embedded in his skin during the climax of WoA, Inquisitors can and have used their spikes as Metalminds, etc... I'm not sure about the limits to Allomancy, but I'm fairly sure that all Feruchemy needs is physical contact. So in your stomach should count. Oh hey, Sazed during the jailbreak of TFE did just that. He specifically says that "I took a hint from you, Mistress(Vin). I swallowed it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightlord M. Alhstrom he/him Posted July 16, 2017 Report Share Posted July 16, 2017 Just wanted to add an idea to the discussion: In SA, you also have people accessing stuff they shouldn't have right before dying: the death rattles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark he/him Posted July 17, 2017 Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 One could argue that the final battle amidst the spires of Kredik Shaw is a good example of this. At the end arc of HoA, when Vin is facing the inquisitors and starts channeling the mists, to the point where her physical self ceases to be. While not truly a death per se, we definitely see a massive power boost to her abilities before her Physical Realm manifestation ceases to be. Though one could also argue that others things were going on that fueled that massive power boost, and they would be right as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatling he/him Posted July 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) Ah, I just found the Warbreaker quote, from the beginning of capter 21: Quote Some said that before a man died, his BioChromatic aura flared with sudden brightness. Like a heart giving its last beat, like the final surge of a wave before the tide retreats. Vasher had seen it happen, but not with every death. The event was rare, much like a perfect sunset. edit: added quote box Edited July 18, 2017 by Fatling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatling he/him Posted July 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2017 On 7/16/2017 at 4:51 AM, Oversleep said: I've reread Warbreaker fairly recently and I don't recall such quote. There is a bit about Breath flickering and colors fluctuating when person is dying (see Lemex passing away) but that's all. See above (sorry, I just figured out how to add quote boxes and quote people, but I had already posted this earlier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cometaryorbit Posted July 19, 2017 Report Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) On 7/17/2017 at 8:37 AM, Stark said: One could argue that the final battle amidst the spires of Kredik Shaw is a good example of this. At the end arc of HoA, when Vin is facing the inquisitors and starts channeling the mists, to the point where her physical self ceases to be. While not truly a death per se, we definitely see a massive power boost to her abilities before her Physical Realm manifestation ceases to be. Though one could also argue that others things were going on that fueled that massive power boost, and they would be right as well. I think that's kind of the opposite - Vin's physical body was destroyed (or, well, transmuted I guess - it showed up again after she died for real) because she was using so much power that a human body couldn't withstand it. EDIT: There is Leras's comment about "the metal, flared at the moment of transition" from SH suggesting that Kelsier got more out of malatium because he was dying. Edited July 19, 2017 by cometaryorbit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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