Vasher/Zahel

[StrikerEZ he/him]

This is gonna be really spoiler-y if you haven't read Warbreaker or at least the first half of Words of Radiance.

Okay, so I'm about halfway through Words of Radiance right now, and I sadly know that these two people are the same (I tried to avoid spoilers as much as possible, but oh well). I wanna know how the heck Vasher got from Nalthis to Roshar. Obviously, he did it by going through the Cognitive Realm, but how was he able to access it on Nalthis? As far as I remember, there was never any mention of a shardpool on Nalthis (though I guess logically, there should be one). I guess Vasher could've just found this shardpool in order to become a worldhopper, but that feels too easy almost. Would it be possible for him to Command an Awakened object to take him to the Cognitive Realm?

Also, did Vasher go to Roshar before or after Warbreaker?

 

[Calderis he/him]

Either he used the shardpool, or some mechanism we don't know about yet. 

As far as when, it's after Warbreaker and either after or at the end of the not yet written sequel Nightblood.

All we know is that he came to Roshar with Nightblood, and they were separated after that. 

I think that's about all we know, but I'm sure some knowledgeable person will fill in anything I've missed

[Dunkum he/him]

4 hours ago, Calderis said:

Either he used the shardpool, or some mechanism we don't know about yet. 

As far as when, it's after Warbreaker and either after or at the end of the not yet written sequel Nightblood.

All we know is that he came to Roshar with Nightblood, and they were separated after that. 

I think that's about all we know, but I'm sure some knowledgeable person will fill in anything I've missed

We do actually know that he has visited Roshar before.  there is a WoB to the effect that Nightblood was his attempt to create a Shardblade.

[Calderis he/him]

13 minutes ago, Dunkum said:

We do actually know that he has visited Roshar before.  there is a WoB to the effect that Nightblood was his attempt to create a Shardblade.

Nightblood was Shashara's project in which he helped with formulating the command. We know that the Scholars had visited Roshar and knew of Shardblades, but I haven't seen an explicit "Vasher was there." not saying it didn't happen, just that I don't think it's been confirmed. 

[Dunkum he/him]

1 hour ago, Calderis said:

Nightblood was Shashara's project in which he helped with formulating the command. We know that the Scholars had visited Roshar and knew of Shardblades, but I haven't seen an explicit "Vasher was there." not saying it didn't happen, just that I don't think it's been confirmed. 

good point about it being mostly Shashara's project.  I went and looked around a bit more though, and there is at least one explicit reference to Vasher visiting Roshar:

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Question

So is Vasher - [lady?] who was part of the process creating Nightblood a worldhopper, then?

Brandon Sanderson

Vasher had been to Roshar before he created Nightblood, yeah.

www.theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1120#77

[Calderis he/him]

@Dunkum thank you. I hadn't seen that one before. 

[Spoolofwhool]

Worlds invested by shards will form a perpendicularity over time, a point where investiture has pooled. This is usually enough to make it easier to cross between realms, so I presume the Scholars used Endowment's perpendicularity.

[Weltall]

To add, someone asked Brandon about the content of a hypothetical essay on Nalthis in Arcanum Unbounded (it doesn't actually have one because there are no short stories set there) and Brandon responded that two of the things that would have been discussed were the Realmatic awareness of the five scholars and hints as to the location of Endowment's perpendicularity.

So yeah, until given reason to suspect otherwise we can reasonably assume that Vasher hopped into the pool on Nalthis (wherever it is) and emerged via one of the perpendicularities Roshar has.

[Spoolofwhool]

6 hours ago, Weltall said:

Brandon responded that two of the things that would have been discussed were the Realmatic awareness of the five scholars

Actually, Brandon said that he would've talked about the Cosmere awareness of scholars there, not specifically the Five Scholars. 

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QUESTION

In the signing line, I asked him what would have been included in a hypothetical Nalthian essay had there been one.

BRANDON SANDERSON

He said it would have talked about how close the scholars there were to being Cosmere aware, and how they knew more than anyone who wasn't a worldhopper. He also said he would have given clues to where the pool was. Also, he wrote "Are you listening?" In my book, although I have no idea what was meant by that.

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[Chinsukolo]

On 5/28/2017 at 8:43 PM, Spoolofwhool said:

Worlds invested by shards will form a perpendicularity over time, a point where investiture has pooled. This is usually enough to make it easier to cross between realms, so I presume the Scholars used Endowment's perpendicularity.

I'm trying to find the post /WoB but I'm pretty certain it was mentioned that Endowments Shardpool is "leaky" and that's why the flowers and Jungle grow over a large area,a nd that this means the pool is to weak to form a perpendicularity.  

I thought that's why many on 17th Shard believed there was some type of Awakening knowledge needed to world hope vice just locating the perpendicularity.

[blutarsky he/him]

@Spoolofwhool sorry, which book did he sign that in? Acranum Unbounded? Also I've been gone for a bit so if there's new info about this can you point me towards it? Vasher/Zahel is one of my favorite projects. 

[Spoolofwhool]

3 hours ago, blutarsky said:

@Spoolofwhool sorry, which book did he sign that in? Acranum Unbounded? Also I've been gone for a bit so if there's new info about this can you point me towards it? Vasher/Zahel is one of my favorite projects. 

I don't think it was in a book, just a signing question. 

[blutarsky he/him]

My bad, I misunderstood your post just looked at the source sounds like it was Arcanum Unbounded.