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[Did Someone Say Kill Evil?]

What if Kelsier became the survival shard?

[Spoolofwhool]

24 minutes ago, Did Someone Say Kill Evil? said:

What if Kelsier became the survival shard?

Don't assume that the shard that wants to survive has its motivation tied to its  intent. 

[Did Someone Say Kill Evil?]

32 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

Don't assume that the shard that wants to survive has its motivation tied to its  intent. 

Actually the survival shard was revealed upon a q and a asking for another shards intent

 

(Correct me if wrong) 

[Spoolofwhool]

1 hour ago, Did Someone Say Kill Evil? said:

Actually the survival shard was revealed upon a q and a asking for another shards intent

 

(Correct me if wrong) 

This one I presume? 

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CHAOS (#1)

Hey dudes, I have some interesting factoids for you. So, I always make sure to order a signed book from Sam Weller's (now Weller's Bookworks) and ask some sort of ridiculous cosmere question. I strongly believe I've posted what was signed in my Alloy of Law copy, but I honestly can't find it (though it was referenced in one of the first Shardcasts: http://www.17thshard...-is-not-a-d-r91). So, I guess I'm posting that too, again. In Alloy, I asked: "Give us the name of a Shard's intent we have not seen before."

BRANDON SANDERSON (#1)

There is one who just wants to hide and survive.

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While the implication does appear to be that he's saying the shard's intent is survival, there is also a lot which can say that that is not necessarily the case. 

First of all, Brandon's wording is odd. He talks about what the shard wants to do when the question was just to name an intent. 

Secondly, survival as an intent is kind of a weird choice for me. For me, survival is about ensuring your existence, making sure you are able to meet another say. This strays very close to Preservation, far too close for my liking. 

Thirdly, in my opinion, if the shard's intent is survival, then it shouldn't want itself to survive. This is because I'm speculating that a shard's intent doesnt cause it to act with that intent in mind with regards to itself. To be more clear, Preservation's intent does make it preserve itself, Ruin doesn't self-ruin, Endowment doesn't seek to endow itself, and Odium isn't odious towards itself. Therefore, "Survival" shouldn't want itself to survive as a result of its intent. 

Finally, my opinion is that survival as an intent would be pretty boring. As a concept, it's fairly defined, especially compared to the others which are a lot more flexible. Once again, you could include the desire to induce survival in others within the the intent of Preservation, as you would be preserving their existence. These points are overall the reason why I doubt that there is actually a shard named Survival. 

[The One Who Connects he/him]

@Did Someone Say Kill Evil? And Fifthly, Brandon has later said that our Survival Shard wants to hide and survive Odium's Massacre because it knows what is going on and is smart enough to get away. 

He said that its want to survive is only tangentially related to its intent.

[Fezzik]

IIRC, in a recent signing, Brandon said that shard's desire to hide was a Wise one. Wisdom seems a pretty good guess.