rimorob Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The situation Shallan and Jasnah are in now, where the ship is probably under attack, possibly by Ghostbloods (see the theory somewhere on the Forum), seems very similar to the one Egwene and Nynaeve found themselves in on the day they met Aviendha, where they were kidnapped by bandits to trade to Myrddraal. I hope that BS will not follow a trope (damsel escapes on her own) from a novel that he helped finish, but he seems to have painted S&J into a corner, story-wise. Are there other possible resolutions to their predicament? And if not, will there be outside help this time, or is it just their lightsaber (sorry, I mean shardblade) and soulcasting against the bad guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aminar Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 There are two options here. Damsel in Distress needs rescue or Damsel rescues herself. Given jasnah, it'll be the second, and it will be a good action scene. In the end, I prefer the second as well. If it were a guy in the scenario we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. It would be, What'll he do. he's gonna kick so much ***. Etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eveorjoy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I'm speculating that Jasnah uses her order's second surge and transports herself and Shallah to safety. Only problem, she isn't very experienced with this surge and can't control where they go. Also, she uses up all their stormlight and so they are stuck where they are until they can infuse their spheres. I guess we will have to see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everstorm Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) "I will find a way where there is none" Second Ideal of the Order of Elsecallers Edited January 31, 2014 by Darkeye 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el_warko Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) I'm speculating that Jasnah uses her order's second surge and transports herself and Shallah to safety. Only problem, she isn't very experienced with this surge and can't control where they go. Also, she uses up all their stormlight and so they are stuck where they are until they can infuse their spheres. I guess we will have to see. +1'd TV Plot! That would be sweet, especailly if it happened more than once, they could go around solving mysteries and stuff! Almost like episodes of Quantum Leap. Seriously though I like Edited January 31, 2014 by el_warko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) We only know at this point that Shallan wakes up to fire and smoke. Other than that we are speculating that Jasnah was attacked. For all we know, the fire could have been from Jasnah killing her would be assassin and causing the ship to catch fire. They may not be in distress other than that they no longer have a ship. Edited January 31, 2014 by The Count 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilKetchupCow Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I vote for pirates. Because as far as I can tell there has been no mention of pirates in the entire book. And lets face it, Darkness is basically a ninja. We got to balance it out right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eveorjoy Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 The Pirate Captain boards the ship. "Rrrgh, this be my boat now." "Lie." Pattern zips under his boots. "Correct," says Jasnah. In a flash of light, the Captain poofs into smoke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 We only know at this point that Shallan wakes up to fire and smoke. Other than that we are speculating that Jasnah was attacked. For all we know, the fire could have been from Jasnah killing her would be assassin and causing the ship to catch fire. They may not be in distress other than that they no longer have a ship. Or maybe the ship's cook had just burned the dinner. Joking aside, The Count has a point. While theorizing is fun, we do not have particularly extensive information to go on here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morsk Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 "I will find a way where there is none" Second Ideal of the Order of Elsecallers And then the explosion when she says it destroys the boat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 If my prediction that Kaladin's explosion was just an unwittingly use of a Force Push type of Windrunner ability, I do not believe that Jasnah's second/third ideal would produce a similar effect. Though a similar reaction from an Elsecaller could maybe end up transporting the entire ship somewhere random. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duskshard Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I reckon that we'll see Shallan expose the fact that she'd a Shardbearer in Chapter 7, Maybe saving Jasnah's life. At which point she'll be like, Hmm... is there something you forgot to tell me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardlight Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I think Jasnah will be the one to do the saving. She is further along in with her surges. Do Shallan's surges depend on Pattern? He is so un-developed still. Will that matter, or can she do things no matter what state pattern is in? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rooster Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 I reckon that we'll see Shallan expose the fact that she'd a Shardbearer in Chapter 7, Maybe saving Jasnah's life. At which point she'll be like, Hmm... is there something you forgot to tell me? Hahaha , yeah. "I said no more lies, what is wrong with you!?" "Let me show you brightness"... Cue video flashback. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoser Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 Nice! Hahaha , yeah. "I said no more lies, what is wrong with you!?" "Let me show you brightness"... Cue video flashback. and maybe "Well, I technically didn't lie and I need to tell 'true lies' to develop my spren bond. " 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorna Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 (edited) The "new kid", or ship's cook, is definitelly going to play a role, IMHO. Sanderson really shoves him in your face there. Bad or good, I cannot say. Edited January 31, 2014 by Lorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccgus Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 My first thought was that they were going to be rescued by the santhid from chapter 1. Though it might take a while to get to shore if it takes them on a tour first. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chlehrma Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) The "new kid", or ship's cook, is definitelly going to play a role, IMHO. Sanderson really shoves him in your face there. Bad or good, I cannot say.Classic misdirection. The real villain is Yalb. He pinches Jasnah in the rear, she turns him into a pillar of flames, boat sinks.On a semi serious note, I think Jasnah and Shallan will get separated. Jasnah will travel and find herself trapped on solid land in the cognitive realm and have to go beg some stormlight off a spren to get out, Shallan, meanwhile, will be rein acting the scene from titanic with Yalb as she floats off into the sunset on her bedroom door and he sinks to the ocean's depths. (Cue emotional music). Edited February 1, 2014 by Chlehrma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eveorjoy Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Classic misdirection. The real villain is Yalb. He pinches Jasnah in the rear, she turns him into a pillar of flames, boat sinks. On a semi serious note, I think Jasnah and Shallan will get separated. Jasnah will travel and find herself trapped on solid land in the cognitive realm and have to go beg some stormlight off a spren to get out, Shallan, meanwhile, will be rein acting the scene from titanic with Yalb as she floats off into the sunset on her bedroom door and he sinks to the ocean's depths. (Cue emotional music). Shallah: I'll never let go Yalb. Gag, I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FollowYourMuse Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 Classic misdirection. The real villain is Yalb. He pinches Jasnah in the rear, she turns him into a pillar of flames, boat sinks. On a semi serious note, I think Jasnah and Shallan will get separated. Jasnah will travel and find herself trapped on solid land in the cognitive realm and have to go beg some stormlight off a spren to get out, Shallan, meanwhile, will be rein acting the scene from titanic with Yalb as she floats off into the sunset on her bedroom door and he sinks to the ocean's depths. (Cue emotional music). I like this one, only instead of her door they float off on the Santhid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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