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Favorite/Most Interesting Shard of Adonalsium ( included the splintered and used to be individual shards)  

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  1. 1. Shard of Adonalsium

    • Harmony
      8
    • Odium
      1
    • Honor
      2
    • Cultivation
      6
    • Ruin
      7
    • Preservation
      1
    • Endowment
      3
    • Dominion
      0
    • Devotion
      0
    • Autonomy
      6
    • That rumored shard that just wants to live and stay away from Odium
      8
    • Trell (? if he/she was actually a shard not a fabrication by another shard)
      3

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goody153

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SPOILER ALL COSMERE related possibly

Shards are considered as "gods" and most powerful thing in the cosmere as of the moment but out of all the shards that have been revealed through the cosmere novels Mistborn, Stormlight Archives, Elantris, Warbreaker, White Sand, even WoB's and whatever form of story that i missed that Mr. Sanderson produced that is cosmere related.

So out of the limited information and exposure we had with the shards who did you find most interesting whether it'd be due to the intent, the vessel behind it, the shardworld he/she/it resides or interaction with the other shards, even the ire from Hoid counts too and/or just the things that shard has done so far ?

Also some questions i'm curious about

  1. Do you guys think Odium has a big opposite shard not Honor and doesn't have to be like perfect opposite kinda like preservation/ruin ?
  2. Apparently Bavadin(Autonomy) is Mr. Sanderson's favorite shard, thoughts on the dude especially for White Sand readers ? Do you agree that he's a menace like Hoid suggests in his letter grouping him up with Rayse ? Would you count him as ally or enemy in general ?
  3. It seems that Tanavast mentioned in one of Dalinar's dreams that Odium tasted defeat too many times and would not wanna taste defeat again. Do you think that means that Rayse was actually losing between him and Tanavast before Honor got rekt ? Or it was just a stalemate.
  4. How many other malevolent shards are there apart from Ruin and Odium ? Possibly Chaos maybe :D

Though we have limited knowledge about shards my favorite is probably Ruin, he seems earnestly thinking he could help people by ending them lol . I would've said Harmony but if only the dude acts more like Ruin than preservation, he feels like a caretaker more than somebody who is actually half Ruin tbh, i wish he was more malevolent since he still represents enthrophy/change/death/destruction.

Well that's all . Thoughts? 

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Mine is Cultivation. Almost simply because shes still a mystery, but not such a mystery that we know nothing about her, like the rumored survival shard. And shes one of the shards in my favorite Cosmere series. I guess you could say shes a mystery thats within in reach. Next is Bav. Hes just beyond Cultivation on my mystery spectrum. But I really wanna know how Cultivation survived while Honor didnt.

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5 hours ago, goody153 said:

Do you guys think Odium has a big opposite shard not Honor and doesn't have to be like perfect opposite kinda like preservation/ruin ?

It can be argued that it would be Devotion. Since Devotion contains love and Odium contains hatred (in fact, those two attributes were the Shard's name before they were canonised).

Or it could be argued that it's Honor, since Honor seeks to bind while Odium seeks to separate...

Not every Shard has direct counterpart. They are really balanced when all sixteen are together. For example, Cultivation, Preservation and Ruin actually exist as a trio, balancing each other out (there is a WoB that Ruin is the most compatible with Cultivation, IIRC).

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I find Autonomy to be the most interesting of the bunch, for pretty much the same reason the OP outlined in point 2. Having not read prose White Sand, I don't know if much is said about Bavadin there, but I find him fascinating. On one hand, he's said to be Brandon's favourite Shardholder, and created a world that, for all its shortcomings, does work. On the other, Hoid has some beef with him (also, people that annoy Hoid are sure to be interesting fellows!) and then there's the wild speculation here whether or not he's behind Trell. I'm really curious to finally see him in person. Or in avatar, or something.

Considering question number 3, perhaps Tanavast is talking about Rosharans managing to resist the Desolations time and time again, for 99 times. That's gotta count as failure in Odium's eyes.

Regarding the number of malevolent Shards, I suppose half of them are benevolent-ish and half malevolent-ish, so they'd be eight of both, with some being closer to gray zone between good and bad than others (for example, you could say that Autonomy sits right in the centre of morality wheel). Not sure what those evil-ish shards would be, though. We've got destruction, hatred and dictatorship, Chaos is a good idea, maybe Despair? I mean, would a divine being like Adonalsium even have Despair in its portfolio?

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12 hours ago, djammmer said:

Endowment.  Created a planet (AFAWK) that with only one shard.  People on that planet (compared to others) are the most stable and most at peace. 

Yeah so far indeed Endowment has the least messy world that any shard are involved. Though she's a solo shard on that planet and she's not accompanied with malevolent shards like in Scadrial with Ruin and Roshar with Odium.

8 hours ago, Rasarr said:

I find Autonomy to be the most interesting of the bunch, for pretty much the same reason the OP outlined in point 2. Having not read prose White Sand, I don't know if much is said about Bavadin there, but I find him fascinating. On one hand, he's said to be Brandon's favourite Shardholder, and created a world that, for all its shortcomings, does work. On the other, Hoid has some beef with him (also, people that annoy Hoid are sure to be interesting fellows!) and then there's the wild speculation here whether or not he's behind Trell. I'm really curious to finally see him in person. Or in avatar, or something.

Considering question number 3, perhaps Tanavast is talking about Rosharans managing to resist the Desolations time and time again, for 99 times. That's gotta count as failure in Odium's eyes.

Regarding the number of malevolent Shards, I suppose half of them are benevolent-ish and half malevolent-ish, so they'd be eight of both, with some being closer to gray zone between good and bad than others (for example, you could say that Autonomy sits right in the centre of morality wheel). Not sure what those evil-ish shards would be, though. We've got destruction, hatred and dictatorship, Chaos is a good idea, maybe Despair? I mean, would a divine being like Adonalsium even have Despair in its portfolio?

So far there are more neutral~ish and benevolent than plain malevolent like Ruin/Odiun.

That would interesting if Rayse was actually losing to Tanavast before the Heralds abandoned Honor, and Tanavast death was not caused by Rayse being cunning but rather the heralds/knight radiants were the ones who stormed up why Tanavast died.

Yeah about Bavadin his intent is pretty interesting at least, maybe as interesting as Endowment and Harmony(balance to preserve and destroy is pretty cool). I mean independence/freedom can be presented as good or evil depending on the situation. And this totally can make sense to that theory that if Bavadin and Rayse worked together before, it was probably to kill Devotion/Dominion since Devotion is kinda like Odium's closest opposite like Honor as @Oversleep mentioned and since Dominion is kinda the opposite of Autonomy which may be they tag teamed up and rekt them both.

I suspect Autonomy may not be as evil nor outright good as he is right now even if his Vessel was formerly despicable as Hoid seems to imply.

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9 hours ago, Chull #445 said:

Ruin has swag. I love him.

No seriously, he's my favorite. I like the fact that he thinks he is justified. He had a certain charm to him as well.

Indeed, one of the big reasons why i loved mistborn trilogy in general. I just love some the lines he says like

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This process we are engaged in, the end of all things—-it's not a fight, but a simple culmination of inevitability. Can any man make a pocket watch that won't eventually wind down? Can you imagine a lantern that won't eventually burn out? All things end. Think of me as a caretaker—-the one who watches the shop and makes certain that the lights are turned out, that everything is cleaned up, once closing time arrives. 

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You realize the forces I can bring to bear against you, child? You realize the power I have, the destruction I represent? I am mountains that crush. I am waves that crash. I am storms that shatter. I am the end.

he just personifies himself in some things he says

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9 minutes ago, Chull #445 said:

What is Autonomys intent anyway? If someone bothers to answer, reply in spoiler tag (I guess).

Um... Autonomy? Just kidding, you probably mean something else, but Autonomy has to do with independence, if that's what you mean.

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14 hours ago, Chull #445 said:

Ruin has swag. I love him.

No seriously, he's my favorite. I like the fact that he thinks he is justified. He had a certain charm to him as well.

And he's gay. With his opposite. 

I know it's only fannon, but it's beautiful.

Also he's a beautiful evil red head. 

 

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On 8/8/2016 at 3:26 PM, Rasarr said:

Regarding the number of malevolent Shards, I suppose half of them are benevolent-ish and half malevolent-ish, so they'd be eight of both, with some being closer to gray zone between good and bad than others (for example, you could say that Autonomy sits right in the centre of morality wheel). Not sure what those evil-ish shards would be, though. We've got destruction, hatred and dictatorship, Chaos is a good idea, maybe Despair? I mean, would a divine being like Adonalsium even have Despair in its portfolio?

I'm still betting we eventually see a Shard called something like Judgment. If Odium is divine hatred absent things like love and honor, a Shard that was essentially divine judgment absent forgiveness or compassion would be pretty freaking terrifying IMO.

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On 8/10/2016 at 6:32 AM, Vallano-dad-dad-szeth said:

I'm intrigued about the shard that's running away and how far they'll go to save their own skin and their other motives etc.

Cultivation also looks like she's interesting and I'm wondering (if and) how she's involved with the Old Magic on roshar

I believe the confirmation is that the Shard's Intent isn't why they're hiding, so that could make for some even more interesting possibilities.  It's also possible we basically won't see that Shard until something forces it to become involved somewhere.

10 hours ago, ROSHtaFARian2.0 said:

I'm still betting we eventually see a Shard called something like Judgment. If Odium is divine hatred absent things like love and honor, a Shard that was essentially divine judgment absent forgiveness or compassion would be pretty freaking terrifying IMO.

That's…absolutely horrific to think about.  Wow. Good job making Odium look tame.

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On 11 augusti 2016 at 6:47 AM, ROSHtaFARian2.0 said:

I'm still betting we eventually see a Shard called something like Judgment. If Odium is divine hatred absent things like love and honor, a Shard that was essentially divine judgment absent forgiveness or compassion would be pretty freaking terrifying IMO.

This sounds a bit like Darkness. Maybe he is a shard :-D

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On ‎2016‎-‎08‎-‎11 at 0:47 AM, ROSHtaFARian2.0 said:

I'm still betting we eventually see a Shard called something like Judgment. If Odium is divine hatred absent things like love and honor, a Shard that was essentially divine judgment absent forgiveness or compassion would be pretty freaking terrifying IMO

It'll be like 'And Then There Were None' by Agatha Christy all over again

On ‎2016‎-‎08‎-‎13 at 9:20 AM, RYANHOME said:

Take comfort in knowing we will be protected once TRELL smites all these non-believers.

thanks, at least we will be safe, well at least until Nalt finds out, then I'm pretty sure we are more likely dead than the rest...

 

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Also so far as curiosity goes I vote Trell all the way, he seems like a very major player, he has been confirmed as being on 2 of the worlds and is still a huge mystery but not one that we know absolutely nothing about. For example does the Fact that Trells metal can be found on Scadrial mean that he had a hand in creating it? What happened between him and Nalt, as I assume that he didn't just leave his brother somewhere, and which shard is he as seems to be based around the stars and not so much a way of thinking/life as the others are?

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What happened between him and Nalt, as I assume that he didn't just leave his brother somewhere, and which shard is he as seems to be based around the stars and not so much a way of thinking/life as the others are?

I'm not entirely certain that's the same Trell. There are some noticeable differences between Trelagism in Era 1 and Trellism in Era 2.

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On ‎2016‎-‎08‎-‎15 at 11:04 AM, PallonianFire said:

I'm not entirely certain that's the same Trell. There are some noticeable differences between Trelagism in Era 1 and Trellism in Era 2.

no one seems to really know, some people think another shard is using that name, some think he just a shard and nobody really has much proof either way, seeing as he has only been mentioned a few times, I think that's fairly intriguing along with the fact that I have a gut feeling he is going to be hopping around different planets much like odium is doing and I'm curious as to why, maybe he is the shard hiding from odium, it would explain why he might have stolen the name Trell, and also why he might have gone to see Harmony, hoping that maybe he could get help from some one who has twice the strength of a shard, and together defeat odium, not really likely considering Trell seems to just be messing up Scadril, but still possible

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