Moogle Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Note: Massive, wild, speculation. “Then it is the second ability,” Jasnah said. “Come in and close that door. I should speak to Captain Tozbek; it won’t latch properly.”Shallan stepped in, pushing the door closed, though the latch didn’t catch. She stepped forward, hands clasped, feeling embarrassed. The chapter ends with a CLIFFHANGER. Wild speculation: the Ghostbloods slipped a spy onto Shallan's ship (the new guy Yalb has been playing with?) and he's been sabotaging the ship over time. Sabotaging a latch so that it couldn't be locked would make it easier for an abduction and/or attack to happen, since they don't have to bash down the door. FURTHER 'EVIDENCE': “Lies,” Pattern said. “Lies from the Yalb.”“Yes,” Shallan said with a sigh. “Yalb is far too skilled at persuasion for his own good, sometimes.”Pattern hummed softly. He seemed pleased.“You like lies?” Shallan asked.“Good lies,” Pattern said. “That lie. Good lie.” Pattern could be referring to 'lying' done by the new guy. Sanderson could be throwing a twist in here with Shallan and us thinking the spren was referring to Yalb's lie as a good lie. Well, no. The spren refers to 'that lie', and Yalb has 'lies'. One lie vs multiple. Cliffhangers are the worst. Now I want to know what happened. This theory has very little to go on, but suffice it to say that I am extremely suspicious of the new guy that got hired on the ship. Jasnah did the 'slip an assassin in disguised as a new employee' trick before, and I suspect we're seeing it now. There's no way the Ghostbloods have given up on her. Edited January 21, 2014 by Moogle 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shardbearer Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Good observation about the latch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodfalcon Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Love it, Moog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dionysus Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I also thought the latch was significant, especially if you believe no word should be wasted in a book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateRob Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Ah but would it have to be a new guy? The ship's captain worked with her father, her father worked with the ghostbloods, the ship was 'luckily' still in the port after she missed her escape window, the broken latch is on the captain's room. Edited January 21, 2014 by ChocolateRob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morsk Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I expected this thread to be about Navani and Jasnah shipping Shallan with the wrong brother. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natans Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I also got the impression that tis will be a assassination atempt agaist Jasnah soor she die or she kick chull. They jumped thje chapter that would aswer this question so maybe we will have less one atheist in the future =( Shallan will arrive at the Shattered Plain but now I'm worried about her master, Brandon you devil are you taking some classes with Mr. Martin =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cromptj Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The chapter does not necessarily end on a cliffhanger, we don't know what happens in chapter 7. It is probably a flashback but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kersplattle Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sorry, but where do the quotes come from in the first post ? They're not in the 5 chapters released on Tor (or not in the versions I can access), are there more out there to read ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringWarmCold Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 it is likely sabotage, but i don't think we can rule out an accident. my first thought was that something having to do with Shallan's Lightweaving. She leaves off not reading the book about her abilities and is told to always keep stormlight-infused spheres with her. i remember how Kaladin would accidentally draw in the stormlight when he is unconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windrunner Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sorry, but where do the quotes come from in the first post ? They're not in the 5 chapters released on Tor (or not in the versions I can access), are there more out there to read ?There's a few new chapters out, Kersplattle. You can find them here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogle Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Sorry, but where do the quotes come from in the first post ? They're not in the 5 chapters released on Tor (or not in the versions I can access), are there more out there to read ? Yes, there's another three out. Enjoy. Edit: Darnit Windy. Too fast for me. Edited January 21, 2014 by Moogle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringWarmCold Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sorry, but where do the quotes come from in the first post ? They're not in the 5 chapters released on Tor (or not in the versions I can access), are there more out there to read ? Chapters Six, Eight and Nine were released earlier today: http://www.tor.com/stories/2014/01/excerpt-brandon-sanderson-words-of-radiance-chapter-six-eight-and-nine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kersplattle Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Got it, thanks to all respondents ! Hmm a bit more meat to consider....how does one find time to do enough WORK these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
askthepaperclip Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Totally agree about the latch. Big red flag for me. (Stolen from another of my posts) "I should speak to Captain Tozbek; it won't latch properly." SABOTAGE?!?! There is NO WAY that a Captain would allow his own (or any!) door not to latch properly on his ship, especially when we now know that they must sometimes weather Highstorms at sea. Again, NO WAY they would not be fully able to "baton down the hatches" so to speak. Something is definitely fishy! EDIT: Oh snap, Yalb is the spy and is going to betray her, just like Kasbal did. If he kills Jasnah, I think that might break Shallan Unfortunately, that would fit in nicely with the blurb from the back cover about cracks and broken minds, etc. She already has a Shardblade...is Shallan going to be the one to say "LET'S BURN THIS MUTHA DOWN!!!" ???? Edited January 22, 2014 by askthepaperclip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Ninja Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hmm, I'm blaming the new guy for the moment, but I can't decide if he's also responsible for the latch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fistsofrage Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Hmm, I'm blaming the new guy for the moment, but I can't decide if he's also responsible for the latch. I find him really suspicious too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksiel Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 It would be too obvious for the new guy to be a spy or sabotage anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBaka Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Wild speculation: the Ghostbloods slipped a spy onto Shallan's ship (the new guy Yalb has been playing with?) and he's been sabotaging the ship over time. Sabotaging a latch so that it couldn't be locked would make it easier for an abduction and/or attack to happen, since they don't have to bash down the door. ... This theory has very little to go on, but suffice it to say that I am extremely suspicious of the new guy that got hired on the ship. Jasnah did the 'slip an assassin in disguised as a new employee' trick before, and I suspect we're seeing it now. There's no way the Ghostbloods have given up on her. This is almost exactly what I thought when I read it. After Kabsal attempted to kill Jasnah, she says something to Shallan about him not being the first assassin, IIRC. Seems the Ghostbloods have been trying to get her for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kersplattle Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hmm, I wonder if the "fire and smoke" is the result of Jasnah soulcasting someone into oblivion. And I agree that the broken latch is extremely "fishy", no way the captain would allow a broken latch on his cabin. So unless Jasnah has not requested that it be fixed for some reason, then it remains unfixed because the captain wishes it so. So the captain is quite possibly part of a ghostblood plot. Someone above linked that to the fact that the captain has done a lot of business in the past with Shallan's family, and her father did have contacts with the ghostbloods; that makes sense also. But Jasnah was probably forewarned by her spren, no doubt all will be revealed in March... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marianmi Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 We've seen that Jasnah was very very tired, so probably she was quite unable to do anything :-S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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