thegatorgirl00 she/her Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Rereading WoR, I noticed the chapter 55 epigraph. Quote The considerable abilities of the Skybreakers for making such amounted to an almost divine skill, for which no specific Surge or spren grants capacity, but however the order came to such an aptitude, the fact of it was real and acknowledged even by their rivals. From Words of Radiance , chapter 28, page 3 I believe this quote refers to the special effect of the Skybreakers. Unfortunately, the special effect is never actually said. There is another quote from this same page and chapter. Quote There came also sixteen of the order of Windrunners, and with them a considerable number of squires, and finding in that place the Skybreakers dividing the innocent from the guilty, there ensued a great debate. From Words of Radiance , chapter 28, page 3 This epigraph is for the chapter directly before the other one, which leads me to believe that it is before the other quote. Perhaps there are clues to the special effect in these quotes. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argent he/him Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I think I've seen theories about the Skybreakers being able to see innocence/guilt, or something to that effect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 he/him Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 We know that Aon Kii has a visible effect on the guilty (by WoB), so the obvious assumption to make is that the same mechanic is in play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa he/him Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Or it is even to separate good from evil. Makes szeth's new sword much more ominous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eki Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 8 hours ago, Alfa said: Or it is even to separate good from evil. Makes szeth's new sword much more ominous I don't think so... Darkness (though possibly different from spren-Skybreakers) seemed to be able to assert that Ym was guilty, but then seemingly spent a long time searching out why he was guilty - and I don't think anyone would agree that Ym was evil. Skybreakers seem to care about the letter of the law. Nightblood makes his own judgements of what evil is, without regard for laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 15 hours ago, Argent said: I think I've seen theories about the Skybreakers being able to see innocence/guilt, or something to that effect. That would certainly explain why Nale would be so excited about unleashing Nightblood. It struck me as a little absurd that a fanatic for the law would possess a weapon that has previously been known to encourage and prod its owner to kill strangers without concern for their guilt. If Skybreakers have a legitimate way of identifying guilt or evil then Nightblood could effectively transformed from a sadistic killing machine to a well-regulated tool of "justice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenod Posted June 15, 2016 Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 Well, Nale is basically insane, and there are theories that his Skybreakers are just some group that have the same name, but are nothing like the old order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 she/her Posted June 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2016 17 hours ago, Landis963 said: We know that Aon Kii has a visible effect on the guilty (by WoB), so the obvious assumption to make is that the same mechanic is in play here. The quote says an almost divine skill. I suspect that a visible effect on the guilty would be considered divine. It also says making. I suppose this could mean making judgements, but the wording leads me to think otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 he/him Posted June 16, 2016 Report Share Posted June 16, 2016 5 hours ago, thegatorgirl00 said: The quote says an almost divine skill. I suspect that a visible effect on the guilty would be considered divine. It also says making. I suppose this could mean making judgements, but the wording leads me to think otherwise. The WoB I'm thinking of says that Aon Kii causes the guilty to feel pain. Skybreakers probably don't have the effect, but probably do leverage the same Connections that Aon Kii does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdiYum Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 On June 15, 2016 at 2:33 AM, Alfa said: Or it is even to separate good from evil. Makes szeth's new sword much more ominous This actually made me shiver a little bit. Isn't Nightblood's biggest fault that he doesn't know good from evil? So wouldn't a Skybreaker give him the framework he requires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magestar he/him Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Yep. Cool, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrolGenhald Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 If Szeth considers breaking a law to be evil I think I'll stay as far away from him as possible. In fact, I think I'll just avoid all Skybreakers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegatorgirl00 she/her Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 2 hours ago, AndrolGenhald said: If Szeth considers breaking a law to be evil I think I'll stay as far away from him as possible. In fact, I think I'll just avoid all Skybreakers. Die you evil jaywalkers! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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