Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) It might have to eat more whatever's too grow more goo but is there any reason a Kandra couldnt use an exoskeleton the way it eats an Endoskeleton? Edited March 9, 2016 by Bryce Carmony
Bowiespoon he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) probably Edited March 9, 2016 by Bowiespoon
hoidhunter he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Well...the endoskeleton is the one part of an organism that a kandra DOESN'T eat...or reporduce...but I know what you're going for. Thus far...I don't think we've been given anything specific to suggest that a kandra couldn't eat and reproduce a chasmfiend's guts, then crawl inside like some kind of weird hermit crab. The only thing that gives me pause...is in BoM, we learn that if a kandra trys to take a form that is too SMALL, it has some issues with having enough mass to still be intelligent.
Windrunner he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 My biggest concern with this would be the fact that greatshells seem to make use of spren bonds in order to sustain sizes that should be physically impossible. I am uncertain that a kandra can bond to a spren in the same way or that it could make mimic a functioning chasmfiend without that bond.
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 My biggest concern with this would be the fact that greatshells seem to make use of spren bonds in order to sustain sizes that should be physically impossible. I am uncertain that a kandra can bond to a spren in the same way or that it could make mimic a functioning chasmfiend without that bond. Maybe those that have a blessing of potency could.
natc Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Depends. Past a certain point you'll be so heavy that your organs are crushed by gravity, and strength won't stop that.
little wilson she/her Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I can't speak for all the Kendra's in the world, but perhaps if it were made of chocolate, I'd be able to eat a chasmfiend.....maybe. Pretty sure I wouldn't want to attempt it though.... If you're wondering what in the world I'm talking about, look at the title. If the typo in the title has been fixed, allow me to provide this screenshot I've got of it: Sorry. On-topic, I have literally no idea if a kandra could eat a chasmfiend. I'm only here for my name. I'll go now. 5
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Depends. Past a certain point you'll be so heavy that your organs are crushed by gravity, and strength won't stop that. Sure but chasmfiends aren't that large, they'd mostly be faced with mobility and breathing problems without spren.
hoidhunter he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I didn't consider the fact that a chasmfiend has a gem heart...which is in some unknown wat vital to it's survival...hhhmmmm....
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Well...the endoskeleton is the one part of an organism that a kandra DOESN'T eat...or reporduce...but I know what you're going for. Thus far...I don't think we've been given anything specific to suggest that a kandra couldn't eat and reproduce a chasmfiend's guts, then crawl inside like some kind of weird hermit crab. The only thing that gives me pause...is in BoM, we learn that if a kandra trys to take a form that is too SMALL, it has some issues with having enough mass to still be intelligent. so not only would it be super huge and strong but huge so it'd be super strong. even cooler!!!!
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 My biggest concern with this would be the fact that greatshells seem to make use of spren bonds in order to sustain sizes that should be physically impossible. I am uncertain that a kandra can bond to a spren in the same way or that it could make mimic a functioning chasmfiend without that bond. I don't think this would be a problem. Kandra don't breath even though they animate bodies that require breath to sustain them. so whatever function a gemheart performs I think a kandra could do without.
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I don't think this would be a problem. Kandra don't breath even though they animate bodies that require breath to sustain them. so whatever function a gemheart performs I think a kandra could do without. Well actually lifting themselves up would still present a problem.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Well actually lifting themselves up would still present a problem. That's why they grow muscles.
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 That's why they grow muscles. You can't just keep growing more muscles, you wouldn't fit in the exoskeleton. 1
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah but once you're full of muscles you're strong enough to lift the shell, plus gravity is weaker on Roshar
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Yeah but once you're full of muscles you're strong enough to lift the shell, plus gravity is weaker on Roshar It is but the chasmfiends still need magical assistance even with slightly lower gravity.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Because they aren't Kandra. a kandra isn't natural selection it's intelligent design. Why do you think tensoon can turn into an animal stronger than any horse?
Voidus Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Because they aren't Kandra. a kandra isn't natural selection it's intelligent design. Why do you think tensoon can turn into an animal stronger than any horse? Magic spikes that give him enhanced strength? That's one of his two blessings.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 But the body they make isn't ( or at least dOesn't have to be ) an exact replica of the animal. Likely a Kandra Fiend would be even stronger than A Chasm Fiend
natc Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) A blessing of potency is two strength spikes somehow paired together. Four strength spikes on a human gives koloss strength. The bulking up probably helps, but I think you're underestimating how much of his performance as a horse is totally supernatural. SoS spoiler And from MeLaan trying to hang herself, it's clear that they do need to breath. Edited March 9, 2016 by natc
Pathfinder Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) A blessing of potency is two strength spikes somehow paired together. Four strength spikes on a human gives koloss strength. The bulking up probably helps, but I think you're underestimating how much of his performance as a horse is totally supernatural. SoS spoiler And from MeLaan trying to hang herself, it's clear that they do need to breath. In that quote: MeLann mentions creating a tracheal system instead of lungs, which most invertebrates do use. So if she could alter her body that way, would changing outside mammalian be so far fetched? edit: to clarify, not mentioning that in response to size issue, but to species issue. So although chasmfiend is debatable, it looks like axehound or whitespine is quite possible Edited March 9, 2016 by Pathfinder
natc Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 In that quote: MeLann mentions creating a tracheal system instead of lungs, which most invertebrates do use. So if she could alter her body that way, would changing outside mammalian be so far fetched? edit: to clarify, not mentioning that in response to size issue, but to species issue. So although chasmfiend is debatable, it looks like axehound or whitespine is quite possible Well, I just wanted to correct him that they do need to breath. Otherwise I'm fine with all this really. How big was a chasmfiend again? Tai-na is definitely too extreme, but chasmfiend I'm not sure on.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 TaI-Na would be even easier since they're in water
natc Posted March 10, 2016 Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah, let's find a mostly submerged isla-yeah, no. If you can see its limbs shift as it moves, most of it is going to be up top in the non-submerged region. The things are islands, this is beyond the range of whales.
Bryce Carmony he/him Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 Yeah, let's find a mostly submerged isla-yeah, no. If you can see its limbs shift as it moves, most of it is going to be up top in the non-submerged region. The things are islands, this is beyond the range of whales. The reshi sea is really clear (and only 60 feet deep so why wouldn't it be I guess) so seeing the legs isn't because they're sticking out of the water. a Kandra could easily become a Ta-nai 1
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