The voice of God

[Darkness Ascendant]

I am currently reading the Mistborn series for the first time. I am up to Hero of Ages

But I am reading the series in a strange way. Simultaneously.

I started reading Final Empire and Well of Ascension simultaneously. I then finished WoA and started HoA. In fact I still have 30 pages to read of Final Empire. 

Anyway, I noticed something strange. Zane hears the mysterious voice called God (Perhaps Ruin?) who tells him to kill everyone (mostly) he sees. And when Zane died the voice tells him he was never insane which reinforces my thoughts that the voice was Ruin and not a figment of his imagination.

 

Well. Vin' mother also heard voices, remember. I don't know much about her but from what the book has told me she heard voices and killed Vin's baby sister. Perhaps Vin's mother succumbed to the voice and finally did it's bidding and killed Vin's sister. Then before she could kill Vin, perhaps Preservation interfered and showed Vin's mother a glimpse of her future which is why Vin's mother proclaimed her a queen and gave her the earring. 

 

Maybe Zane was strong enough to resist but the Inquisitors and Vin's mother were not?

Perhaps Ruin cannot read minds but manipulate your thoughts and control your body like how he controls the Inquisitors?

What do u guys think?

[skaa]

What an interesting way to read the trilogy!

HoA spoilers

You are correct that Ruin cannot read people's minds. He can only send messages those who've been Hemalurgically spiked and those who are mentally unstable. The more spikes one has, or the more insane he is, the easier it is for Ruin to control him.

 

Even if Zane wasn't in fact insane, he did have a Hemalurgic spike, which is why Ruin could talk to him in the first place.

 

Vin's mother was quite insane, and Ruin manipulated her into sacrificing her baby (who was a Seeker) so that her other daughter Vin (who Ruin intended to use in his plan to free himself) could have a Hemalurgically-enhanced Seeking ability that would be useful in finding the Well of Ascension.

 

I'll stop right there in case you don't want to be spoiled about the rest of HoA. Have fun reading!

Edited February 16, 2016 by Voidus
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[Cephandrius]

That's not exactly how it happened, but I will say this (minimal spoiler):

ruin cannot read minds, but he can talk to the insane and those who have been spiked. Zane may have been a little insane in the membrane, so he may have heard enough as a child to spike himself and ruin gained more control. I prefer to think a real whackjob got to him when he was younger, because he had a rough childhood, and because ruin says he was never insane in the first place.

Preservation cannot talk to people, but he can read minds and see the future.

PS why did you decide to read it like that, especially for the first time?

Edit: ninja'd by skaa. I need to get off the phone

 

Edit2:  Found the spoiler tag.  

Edited February 16, 2016 by Cephandrius

[Observer]

Skaa, if they haven't finished HoA then that's kind of a big spoiler? I'm guessing they don't know because of how they phrased their post.

 

But yes, it's confirmed Zane was hearing Ruin, because we've seen him do something similar near the beginning-ish of HoA. And Vin's mother almost certainly did as well. It's similar to what emotional allomancy does to Kolos and Kandra, except Ruin can do it to people if they're broken enough.

[Darkness Ascendant]

That's not exactly how it happened, but I will say this (minimal spoiler):

ruin cannot read minds, but he can talk to the insane and those who have been spiked. Zane may have been a little insane in the membrane, so he may have heard enough as a child to spike himself and ruin gained more control. I prefer to think a real whackjob got to him when he was younger, because he had a rough childhood, and because ruin says he was never insane in the first place.

Preservation cannot talk to people, but he can read minds and see the future.

PS why did you decide to read it like that, especially for the first time?

Edit: ninja'd by skaa. I need to get off the phone

 

Edit2:  Found the spoiler tag.  

Ahh.. you see I have Final Empire as an ePub and the other two I borrowed from the library. So when I was on my comp I would read Final Empire and read the other two in my spare time.

 

Preservation's a guy?. huh didn't expect that. 

 

So I guess I was kinda right with Preservation and seeing the future.

 

 

 Ruin can do it to people if they're broken enough.

if they're 'ruined' enough. hehehehehhehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehehhehehehhehehehshduhuehehhehehehioiSJLDJJJJLEJRJLH.

 

What an interesting way to read the trilogy!

HoA spoilers

You are correct that Ruin cannot read people's minds. He can only send messages those who've been Hemalurgically spiked and those who are mentally unstable. The more spikes one has, or the more insane he is, the easier it is for Ruin to control him.

 

Even if Zane wasn't in fact insane, he did have a Hemalurgic spike, which is why Ruin could talk to him in the first place.

 

Vin's mother was quite insane, and Ruin manipulated her into sacrificing her baby (who was a Seeker) so that her other daughter Vin (who Ruin intended to use in his plan to free himself) could have a Hemalurgically-enhanced Seeking ability that would be useful in finding the Well of Ascension.

 

I'll stop right there in case you don't want to be spoiled about the rest of HoA. Have fun reading!

Don't worry about the spoiler I thought it would be something like that

[natc]

People that are broken are actually just easier to talk to by those kinds of entities in general, apparently.

Except Preservation, since his power automatically tries to fix them if he gets close for obvious reasons.

That be Secret History content though, but not exactly plot-important.

[Stormgate]

I'm personally struggling with this concerning Calamity, but wow, guys. I realize nobody likes them, but RAFOS have a purpose. Use them.