JosephOfHathsin Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 So I know everyone's invested on OneSpike-OneEye man being Kelsier or Spook, but I was wondering if anyone else wondered if it could possibly be Walin. My main reason for thinking this, is Walins seemingly sudden disappearance after his one chapter in Final Empire. Could it be possible that he made his way to the most southern of Scandriel after fleeing the Pitts the night of its destruction? Going and finding some secrets connecting to Trell. Other reasons are just the vague description of One eye. 1. He has Pitts of Hathsin Scars 2. He says the last Word Kelsier told him 3. The way he speaks this word to the masked people seems like he understands the hope it can give them. Maybe cause he had the words spoken to him by a certain survivor?(I know this 3rd one is kind of just a stretch of my 2nd but I read into things that likely aren't there most times lol) 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Have an upvote for totally blowing my mind; definitely adopting this theory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Was Walin a Mistborn? I remember him training Kelsier, but can't remember if he was full, or just a Misting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hwiles Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Was Walin a Mistborn? I remember him training Kelsier, but can't remember if he was full, or just a Misting. I think you're thinking of Gemmel, who was the mistborn that trained Kelsier. Walin was just a prisoner who was at the Pits when Kelsier destroyed them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I think you're thinking of Gemmel, who was the mistborn that trained Kelsier. Walin was just a prisoner who was at the Pits when Kelsier destroyed them. OK okm OK I gotcha. Yea was definitely mixing the two. I was gonna say I thought Gemmel had died, but that doesn't matter now lol. Oh BTW, how on earth did you remember his name lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 So I know everyone's invested on OneSpike-OneEye man being Kelsier or Spook, but I was wondering if anyone else wondered if it could possibly be Walin. My main reason for thinking this, is Walins seemingly sudden disappearance after his one chapter in Final Empire. Could it be possible that he made his way to the most southern of Scadrial after fleeing the Pitts the night of its destruction? Going and finding some secrets connecting to Trell. Other reasons are just the vague description of One eye. 1. He has Pitts of Hathsin Scars 2. He says the last Word Kelsier told him 3. The way he speaks this word to the masked people seems like he understands the hope it can give them. Maybe cause he had the words spoken to him by a certain survivor?(I know this 3rd one is kind of just a stretch of my 2nd but I read into things that likely aren't there most times lol) Why the spike in the eye, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Maybe to communicate to the Survivor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Maybe to communicate to the Survivor? Seems a bit hardcore. Earring would be much simpler and less crippling if removed. (There's a reason why Harmony uses earrings in a similar function) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emailanimal Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Do we have *any reason whatsoever* beyond the scars on his hands, to believe that based on his experiences in the Pits, and the chance encounter with Kelsier, Walin, over the process of the next 10 years or so (12 years, to be more exact) is able to acquire not just the spike in his eye, but also the apparent knowledge of Freuchemy and Allomancy sufficient to save the south polers? Why is this theory any better than a theory that a random Terris Freuchemist escaped the paws of Inquisitors with a spike in his eye, went to the Pits to scar his hands and then made it to the South Pole? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Feesh Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Do we have *any reason whatsoever* beyond the scars on his hands, to believe that based on his experiences in the Pits, and the chance encounter with Kelsier, Walin, over the process of the next 10 years or so (12 years, to be more exact) is able to acquire not just the spike in his eye, but also the apparent knowledge of Freuchemy and Allomancy sufficient to save the south polers? Why is this theory any better than a theory that a random Terris Freuchemist escaped the paws of Inquisitors with a spike in his eye, went to the Pits to scar his hands and then made it to the South Pole? ^This. Random speculation is fun, but let's use Occam's Razor guys. As emailanimal points out: How likely is it? Why is that theory any more likely to be true than any other? Less scientific, but more true to laws of narrative and drama (and we ARE dealing with literature): How many people will remember Walin? Would that be a satisfying conclusion? Would there be any payoff for the fans? I can understand the "Spook is the Sovereign" camp. Spook was a believer in Kelsier's church, I could see him having taken up the Scars like some of the more devout Survivorists as a mark of piety even, plus a few other things which I don't want to post here because it's the BoM board not the SH board, but even I think it's far more likely to be Kelsier. Not to suggest Brandon hasn't thrown us off with false leads before, but I don't believe that's what's happening here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Good points gentlemen, good points. I barely started/finished Hidden Secrets yesterday and I'm a little less sure of Walin now. I can't imagine a lot of people really missed Walin so yea, but I'm not still sure about Spook being spike controlled seeing how the Sovriegn and Spooks timelines after the catacandre run parallel. I know it's defiantly Kelsier now but I think with Spook in Elendale and Demoux being a worldhopper, he must've got his 'thread' from another person with a strong connection to Kel, and well I can still see Walin possibly being another person with a strong connection to Kelsier. At this points It's more so not the evidence, but the lack of it. Who knows, maybe Walin went crazy after Kel saved him and that left him cracked and open to Kels influence, that and the fact Kel saved him might make him even worship Kel like Demoux does. But like I said not so sure, just more interested in seeing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFencer Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 The One-Eye Spike Man is obviously Allomancer Jak. It's so clear. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Rusts I forgot about Allomancer Jak! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 The real question now is, who is Allomancer Jak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landis963 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 The real question now is, who is Allomancer Jak? The "gentleman adventurer" from the Broadsheet pulp stories. Bombastic, reckless moron in a mistcoat and a cowboy hat. Has (in the grand tradition of these tales) a sidekick who is much smarter than he (his "trusty editor" Handerwym) and a love interest playing the role of perpetual damsel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 The "gentleman adventurer" from the Broadsheet pulp stories. Bombastic, reckless moron in a mistcoat and a cowboy hat. Has (in the grand tradition of these tales) a sidekick who is much smarter than he (his "trusty editor" Handerwym) and a love interest playing the role of perpetual damsel. Interestingly, he's also openly criticized Wax within the pages of one of his broadsheet stories as a reckless gun-toting killer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Yes I'm more so wondering Who he is really, as cool as a name as Allomacer Jak is in pretty sure it's not the one he was born with. Lol isn't he a Mistborn? Cause I've been confused if he uses different allomantic powers in his various broadsheet articles. For the first two Wax and Wayne novels I thought he was a fictional character someone wrote (like a meta Mistborn Sherlock Holmes being written by a Mistborn version of Arthur Doyle who lived in Elendale then moved to the roughs). It wasn't till BoM when I read from Wax where he thinks to himself "at least that fella Jak actually went out". That thought he has to himself made me think that, the reason why Allomacer Jak hates Wax so much isn't simply just the author of Allomancer Jak name dropping a Famously known Lawman who embodies 'gentlemen adventures', but because Wax and Jak have actually met before. Honestly Allomancer Jak's identity and possible existence was already a bother to me the past two books, now it's just gonna torment me all year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor Feesh Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 He's a tineye. I don't think he's ever used anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Interestingly, he's also openly criticized Wax within the pages of one of his broadsheet stories as a reckless gun-toting killer. That's uncalled for! His motivations may be slightly reckless at times but he plans very carefully about how to bring people down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 People do tend to blow up more than usual around him though natc... So it holds some merit Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Hey, I'm only defending him for accusations of recklessness. The part where people tend to die near him is completely true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecohansen Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 The real question now is, who is Allomancer Jak? Nah, Allomancer Jak is Earless Jaks from Kaladin's crew in WOK. He's a worldhopper. Yup yup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephOfHathsin Posted February 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Yup yup I love that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormgate Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I thought Allomancer Jak was female? Am I completely wrong? Also, why do we call people from other Cosmere planets worldhoppers? They are clearly aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 (edited) Because they hop from world to world. Obviously. You're better off just asking why we call every investiture user by their technical name instead of insisting that they are magicians or wizards. Edited February 16, 2016 by natc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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