Navy Seon he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 What the flip is curveballs power. Never running out of bullets doesn't make sense! Does he clone the bullets, teleport them, what? Never running out of bullets is not a power?! So what was his power? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mestiv he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I think it was very specific matter creation, adding bullets to his guns. It makes just as much sense as Mitosis powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Big-time spoilers for Firefight: Seriously. Go no further. Maybe Calamity was really drunk when he gave Curveball his power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Seon he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Haha hilarious. When david said that curveballs one and only super power was never running out of bullets from any gun, i thought that no, there must be more, maybe later it will explain. Although your explanation would make the power distribution a lot more amusing. But on a more serious note, i asked brandon and never got an answer, so i am very very curious. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Haha hilarious. When david said that curveballs one and only super power was never running out of bullets from any gun, i thought that no, there must be more, maybe later it will explain. Although your explanation would make the power distribution a lot more amusing. But on a more serious note, i asked brandon and never got an answer, so i am very very curious. It's probably of the same nonsensical class as Nightweilder's—he can attack with shadows, which aren't solid, but he makes them solid, and he can block out the sun with it, which works but still doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Epic powers do interact with physics, but they run the gamut from merely bending physics to making physics cry. I assumed it was an unconscious and ridiculously specific form of matter creation/duplication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 It's probably of the same nonsensical class as Nightweilder's—he can attack with shadows, which aren't solid, but he makes them solid, and he can block out the sun with it, which works but still doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Epic powers do interact with physics, but they run the gamut from merely bending physics to making physics cry. I assumed it was an unconscious and ridiculously specific form of matter creation/duplication. Actually I believe that Nightwielders powers were somewhat explained, he doesn't actually manipulate shadows he can just control a mist-like substance that looks shadowy. On Curveball I'm also assuming that it's simple matter creation. Brandon said that an Epic who could only pull Hamburgers out of his pockets was possible so something more simple like a bullet would definitely be within the realms of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Seon he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 (edited) So no one is arguing that his power is in fact never running out of bullets and not that its the effects of the power? Edited February 9, 2016 by Navy Seon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Curveball would actually be a really powerful epic if his power applied to all weapons. Can you imagine him with that giant explosive rifle that the reckoners got, except with no ammo limit or reload time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kynedath Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Curveball would actually be a really powerful epic if his power applied to all weapons. Can you imagine him with that giant explosive rifle that the reckoners got, except with no ammo limit or reload time? Gauss gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Curveball would actually be a really powerful epic if his power applied to all weapons. Can you imagine him with that giant explosive rifle that the reckoners got, except with no ammo limit or reload time? The ammo's not the problem its the amount of energy it needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPlague he/him Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Someone should give Curveball a Gauss revolver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 (edited) Infinite ammo is no less nonsensical than Steelheart's generic energy bolts and being simply invulnerable. I mean, really, how do you draw the line for "harm"? How does shouting of all things turn everything into an alloy of iron and carbon? Why can't it make anything else? Why does it not work on living animals, but does on dead ones, yet it steel-ifies plants regardless of the state of their vital signs? At what point in the process of death is the thing considered dead? Why is Conflux seemingly able to charge anything indefinitely beyond what their actual containment capacities would allow, but never has been mentioned to be able to just discharge into air or something? Edited February 13, 2016 by natc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Infinite ammo is no less nonsensical than Steelheart's generic energy bolts and being simply invulnerable. I mean, really, how do you draw the line for "harm"? How does shouting of all things turn everything into an alloy of iron and carbon? Why can't it make anything else? Why does it not work on living animals, but does on dead ones, yet it steel-ifies plants regardless of the state of their vital signs? At what point in the process of death is the thing considered dead? Why is Conflux seemingly able to charge anything indefinitely beyond what their actual containment capacities would allow, but never has been mentioned to be able to just discharge into air or something? Energy bolts are just not understood, although arguably the same could be said for bullet generation. Shouting doesn't, anger is just the trigger for this particular power, nothing implicitly weird about that compared to all the other powers with mental triggers. Not the air but he did kill his wife through a counter I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPlague he/him Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 The ammo's not the problem its the amount of energy it needs. So would his powers not work on a flintlock pistol? They use gunpowder and that's not ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 The ammo's not the problem its the amount of energy it needs. If his power applied to all weapons, he'd just be able to create power for it, since power is basically its ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightshade the Cunning Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 The ammo's not the problem its the amount of energy it needs. The energy is technically the ammunition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 The energy is technically the ammunition Not really, it fires a projectile not energy, energy is a power source for the mechanisms inside the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightshade the Cunning Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Not really, it fires a projectile not energy, energy is a power source for the mechanisms inside the gun. It could be argued that the energy while powering the gauss gun might also be the projectile in a different form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Star Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Energy weapons would fall under all weapons, so he'd be able to generate the energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 If Curveball can create not just the portion of the bullet that actually gets fired, but the gunpowder in the casing that fires it as well, shouldn't it be possible to create both the projectile and the energy for the gauss gun? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 Energy weapons would fall under all weapons, so he'd be able to generate the energy. But the energy isn't fired, his power is restricted to ammunition not the gun itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irkutsk he/him Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 But the energy isn't fired, his power is restricted to ammunition not the gun itself.Bullets contain the gunpowder that fires them, which is just an efficient form of storage for chemical energy. Assuming Curveball's power applies to all projectile weapons and not just handguns, I see no reason it wouldn't work on the Gauss gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Bullets contain the gunpowder that fires them, which is just an efficient form of storage for chemical energy. Assuming Curveball's power applies to all projectile weapons and not just handguns, I see no reason it wouldn't work on the Gauss gun. Because the bullets contain the gunpoder, not the gun itself. You strap the energy pack onto the gun not the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natc Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 But by that logic, Curveball can't auto-reload those guns from the old days where you added powder manually. I call false advertising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 But by that logic, Curveball can't auto-reload those guns from the old days where you added powder manually. I call false advertising! Well we never saw him do so, so there's no reason to believe he could. But again that gunpowder is at least stuffed into the barrel, one could argue that his power is to replicate anything placed in the barrel of a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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