DeadFencer Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 So while holding the power of the well of Ascension, Rashek changed the nobles to be taller in the balance. But didn't Rashek's allies come from after the well, when he was taking over the world? Those were the ones who received the Lerasium beads after all. Alendi may have had some allies before he died, but if some of those didn't support Rashek they would appear as nobles but be skaa, especially early on when the balance was more apparent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pechvarry Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Oh, that's easy! It's because uh... hmm. Good point. All of his friends were other wild frontiersman ice climbers that he turned into goo-people. Maybe it's more like he "damaged" everyone else' genome (made skaa) and the Lerasium bead would undo this damage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ninja Yodeler he/him Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) From what I remember, he turned all of his Terrisman buds into the first gen Kendra, then gave Lerasium to the nobles to keep them dependant on him, maybe. Gonna have to check that bit out again, but I don't recall him giving Lerasium Terrisman who could use Feruchemy, because he didn't want anyone matching him in strength. I mean he did initiate the breeding programs to try to curtail Feruchemy being passed on. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but I'm pretty sure he was no friend to the nobles. EDIT-Wow, stupid auto correct made Terrisman to Terry's man and Lerasium to Persimmon. Very annoying. Edited January 19, 2016 by The Ninja Yodeler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa he/him Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Being ascended for a short time he probably figured out, which people will support him and made them the first nobles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 Being ascended for a short time he probably figured out, which people will support him and made them the first nobles Also to keep up the ruse that he was indeed Alendi the hero rather than some random Terris packman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit he/him Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) Hadn't Alendi conquered most of what became the Final Empire before he even went to the Well? Maybe Rashek knew that it would be much easier to just appropriate the power structure that was under Alendi, rather than try and set up a completely new one. Then there would already be a clear aristocracy for him to turn into the modified nobles and a proletariat to become the Skaa. Edited January 19, 2016 by King's Twit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of nowhere Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 I think it wass clearly stated somewhere (if not in book, maybe in a annotation or something?) that rashek, while holding the power of the well, talked in the mind to some kings and offered them the power of allomancy for their support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King's Twit he/him Posted January 19, 2016 Report Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) I think it wass clearly stated somewhere (if not in book, maybe in a annotation or something?) that rashek, while holding the power of the well, talked in the mind to some kings and offered them the power of allomancy for their support. You're probably thinking of the Feruchemists who became the first generation of Kandra. He may have also talked to the original nobles while he held the power, but AFAIK it is not stated in the books or the annotations that he did so. Edited January 19, 2016 by King's Twit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFox Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) That's the exact question I want to ask. Maybe he set up a "opinion poll" in everyone's mind. 口 I endorse Rashek as my ruler. 口 damnation you, Rashek 口 Send me to the south Edited January 21, 2016 by StarFox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecohansen Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 We can be pretty sure that he didn't tell everyone he was Rashek: if they knew he was a Terrisman, that would give them a clue about the powers of ferruchemy, and encourage challengers. So the only people who knew he was Rashek were the Kandra and maybe the Inquisitors. For everyone else, he would have pretended to be Alendi. Alendi's friend network would have already helped Alendi conquer the world, and would be the most powerful people around. They would be useful tools. So, I think the in-text origin story for the nobles is correct: they are descended from the people who helped Alendi rise to power. Rashek just had to remain powerful and aloof, so they would think that Alendi had changed at the Well, rather than realizing he was someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa he/him Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) We can be pretty sure that he didn't tell everyone he was Rashek: if they knew he was a Terrisman, that would give them a clue about the powers of ferruchemy, and encourage challengers. So the only people who knew he was Rashek were the Kandra and maybe the Inquisitors. For everyone else, he would have pretended to be Alendi. Alendi's friend network would have already helped Alendi conquer the world, and would be the most powerful people around. They would be useful tools. So, I think the in-text origin story for the nobles is correct: they are descended from the people who helped Alendi rise to power. Rashek just had to remain powerful and aloof, so they would think that Alendi had changed at the Well, rather than realizing he was someone else. That seems likely. Also, am I the only who noticed how much Alendi and Rashek resembled each other? (probably a reason why Rashek kept Alendi's diary in Kredik Shaw) Edited January 21, 2016 by Alfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFox Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 That seems likely. Also, am I the only who noticed how much Alendi and Rashek resembled each other? (probably a reason why Rashek kept Alendi's diary in Kredik Shaw) Terrismen should have dark skin(like some kind of Africans or Indians?), and other people should look like western European people(?). Any way, as he got the power, plastic surgery should be just a piece of cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaIadin he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 They might have actually been his offspring perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoidhunter he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I may be wrong (I'm just using my feeble memory) but I don't think that he made his friends into nobles and then gave some of them allomancy...I think he just divided the populace for survival purposes...and then later gave allomancy to his strongest supporters (who were nobles). Edited January 22, 2016 by hoidhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfa he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Terrismen should have dark skin(like some kind of Africans or Indians?), and other people should look like western European people(?). Any way, as he got the power, plastic surgery should be just a piece of cake. I meant on behavior Level. Edited January 22, 2016 by Alfa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) They might have actually been his offspring perhaps? it's impossible, he feared the mix of Allomancy and Feruchemy. He enslaved his own people to avoid that. Edited January 22, 2016 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 it's impossible, he feared the mix of Allomancy and Feruchemy. He enslaved his own people to avoid that. Well he did have children (Or at least a child) at some point. But yeah, I doubt he would have given them Lerasium and allowed them to keep breeding unchecked. I also think it's incredibly unlikely that people wouldn't know that. And also no feruchemist Nobles have been born so far as we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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