Question 18

[Nashan’Elin he/him]

Hahaha! Chef was mine, and I used him for only a few posts. He wasn't involved in any other groups, so feel free to grab him and change the backstory around. By all means.

Thanks! I've been rereading the Dalles for a while, seeing what Chef appeared in

[Blackhoof]

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your ageing.

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

[mail-mi he/him]

Give me about a hour and it'll be your turn in Portland. Apart from that, is Reader involved in anything right now?

Nope.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your ageing.

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

I thought about this when I got to that revelation, but Funtimes doesn't create, not exactly. She just manipulates the matter that's already there. I could have her creations revert after a set time limit, but since Nathan has been wearing his suit and duster for four days already and it hasn't shown any indication that it's going back to the stuff she turned it from, the limit would have to be pretty big. A week at least.

[Blackhoof]

I don't think that's an issue for her- after all, she changes instead of creating like Larcener.

[Vikro he/him]

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your age.

That's the reason why I want him to be young, I want him to be this whiney kid who has pillow powers. I currently live with people around that age, so I kind of know how they think.

[Voidus]

I thought about this when I got to that revelation, but Funtimes doesn't create, not exactly. She just manipulates the matter that's already there. I could have her creations revert after a set time limit, but since Nathan has been wearing his suit and duster for four days already and it hasn't shown any indication that it's going back to the stuff she turned it from, the limit would have to be pretty big. A week at least.

Cornucopia is much the same, that's why I had it be through growing plants, the idea being that just like normal plants they extract nutrients from the soil, just in this case they put it towards some very specific structures

[Comatose he/him]

So, I ended up changing my mind about making The Alchemist. I grateful for the suggestions, but unfortunately, this Epic was mostly plagiarized from anime Fullmetal Alchemist, and I want to make something that's my own. On the bright side, I have. Here he is.

Name: Pillowfight

Age: 9

Primary Power: can transform any material that's the size of a semitrailer or smaller into a pillow.

Secondary: Can control any pillow within 200 meter sphere(100 meter radius) centered around him.

MO: he's very non-violent, trying to solve stuff by detaining his opponent through pillow squish, or preferably by persuasion. However, if someone takes something of his he will smother them to death.

Personality: Courtesy of being over to float on a pillow everywhere, he is lazy. He's also whiney. When he wants something though, he will try his hardest to attain it.

Backstory: he turned into an epic when he was 5, and during his rending smothered his brother. This broke him, but his single mom forgave him and accepted him. However, when he was 8 a low epic killed his mother. He entered a fit a rage upon hearing this, and brutally smothers the man with pillows. He then traveled around, searching for a new mother. When he heard about a city ruled by women, he decided that they would take him in. So, he left for Corvallis.

Feel free to ask or voice anything.

 

I'm a little concerned about the back story, but I can't find anything specifically wrong with it.  I think its just because its hard to know how Calamity effects such a young person, or what an epic like that's rending would be like.  Normal epics are usually compelled to kill those closest to them during the rending, so would the mom survive?  Then again, if he's only five, then his risk assessment would be very different than an adult, and he would likely respond to the fear from Calamity in a different way.  

 

I know Sandman is a child Epic, though I think he's closer to 12. 

 

Prankster is quite young too, if I recall correctly.  I think my concerns lie more with how he will be RP'd, and the difficulty with combining a child's POV with Calamity's corruption than the plausibility, but if you think you are up to writing him, I'd personally not have any objections.  

 

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your ageing.

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

 

I agree with Twi and Voidus on this one - I think they are changing or manipulating matter, rather than creating it.   Steelheart was able to transform things to steel permanently, as was whoever Larcener got the salt-city power from.  The epics I think it effects more are epics like Arsenal, the Financier, or Lucentia (and others), whose powers actually create objects from nothing.  Maybe the Financier gets around that since he's technically copying things, but I'm not sure.  Since Lucentia's powers are so specific (she only creates one thing) I don't think its much of an issue for her either.  I can't recall the specific limits on Arsenal's powers, but that might be more of an issue.  

[Vikro he/him]

I going to put Pillowfights corruption as him getting very upset/angry when he doesn't get what he wants. I think I'm also going to make his timeline happen 2 years later.

[Voidus]

My main concern with extremely young Epics is that we don't know how their aging is affected, Epics physically age a lot slower but what about their mental and emotional development? Let alone how that would be influenced by the corruption.

I have a pretty young Epic in Salem but she's very new so I was hoping to skirt around the issues somewhat with her.

[Vikro he/him]

My main concern with extremely young Epics is that we don't know how their aging is affected, Epics physically age a lot slower but what about their mental and emotional development? Let alone how that would be influenced by the corruption.

I have a pretty young Epic in Salem but she's very new so I was hoping to skirt around the issues somewhat with her.

I was going to have him be 11, and if all epics age slower then he physically would probably look to be about 8. I don't see any reason why their mental and emotional stage would age any different. As far as I know, that is unaffected unless either their powers or corruption interfered. And I assume that their corruption would be the same as an adult, just seen through the eyes of a child, and they would be less able to control it, having much less experience than adults in withholding their desires.

[Nashan’Elin he/him]

My main concern with extremely young Epics is that we don't know how their aging is affected, Epics physically age a lot slower but what about their mental and emotional development? Let alone how that would be influenced by the corruption.

I have a pretty young Epic in Salem but she's very new so I was hoping to skirt around the issues somewhat with her.

Oh yeah, so should I just PM you about doing a Salem post potentially involving Mel?

[Voidus]

I was going to have him be 11, and if all epics age slower then he physically would probably look to be about 8. I don't see any reason why their mental and emotional stage would age any different. As far as I know, that is unaffected unless either their powers or corruption interfered. And I assume that their corruption would be the same as an adult, just seen through the eyes of a child, and they would be less able to control it, having much less experience than adults in withholding their desires.

Well your mental stage is partially dependant not only upon your experience but also upon the actual physical state of your brain, not to mention how not going through puberty might affect things.

 

 

Oh yeah, so should I just PM you about doing a Salem post potentially involving Mel?

Yeah if you start one up that'd probably be good, not sure how much time I have today but we could outline something at least.

[Clockwork he/him]

In Corvallis,

are the ghouls mindless, or can they use weapons?

 

(Wasn't certain whether to put this in a spoiler box or not. Went the safe way.)

This is important to Chasmfiend (Epic).

[RippleGylf she/her]

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your ageing.

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

Would this apply to Lightwood?

[Blackhoof]

In Corvallis,

are the ghouls mindless, or can they use weapons?

 

(Wasn't certain whether to put this in a spoiler box or not. Went the safe way.)

This is important to Chasmfiend (Epic).

 

no need for spoilerbox when discussing RP stuff

 

They occasionally pick up objects to bludgeon/stab people with if they are close at hand, but they don't hold onto them for long, preferring to rip into their prey with teeth and nails. They are filled with rage and single-minded in their killing, but they are also cunning, so they can lay traps and ambushes. In fact I think I depicted some ghouls ambushing a minor Epic with a knife one time. They typically charge towards their prey and try to kill it in a manic, berserk rage. They are also fearless and feel no pain.

 

 

I agree with Twi and Voidus on this one - I think they are changing or manipulating matter, rather than creating it.   Steelheart was able to transform things to steel permanently, as was whoever Larcener got the salt-city power from.  The epics I think it effects more are epics like Arsenal, the Financier, or Lucentia (and others), whose powers actually create objects from nothing.  Maybe the Financier gets around that since he's technically copying things, but I'm not sure.  Since Lucentia's powers are so specific (she only creates one thing) I don't think its much of an issue for her either.  I can't recall the specific limits on Arsenal's powers, but that might be more of an issue.  

 

Fair enough, that makes sense to me.

Arsenal does have a bit of a problem though, doesn't he? We could always retcon it so that his creations only last a few days/a week. Although that might make him too busy, in the sense that if the guard get almost all their equipment from him he has to replace it all on a weekly basis.

[Chandrian]

Just an FYI for the future, after I flesh out Lifebringer some more, I would be interested in adopting Event Horizon.

[Blackhoof]

Good to hear

[Curious Anamaximder he/him]

Wait, who left for adoption? Is Ripple taking Candyflame?

[Edgedancer he/him]

Sounds awesome character-wise, but wouldn't it be hard RPing with a child so young? You could always have someone older who just looks quite young fir their age, given how being an Epic slows down your ageing.

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

I wouldn't really say that the limitations on one Epic count as "almost canon" Especially given that there was no indication of the crystals made with that one motivator tec inherently decay. Now, I'd agree that this type of power should be generally restricted in a reasonable way and that we may have acouple too much of them but bending over with retcons seems a bit extreme.

 

Would this apply to Lightwood?

Nope.

 

Wait, who left for adoption? Is Ripple taking Candyflame?

Seems like it. Actually, we may already have to update the list.

Lemme think, there still should be Parity and Mundivore in Portland, Florist in the Dalles and Timelock in Astoria to name a couple that come to mind.

 

Blaze, a Kenshin post would probably be ridiculously short at this rate, so could you give me some info on what Buttercup would do after Kenshin opens the door for her, so I have a bit more to go on?

[ChickenPlague he/him]

Also, unrelated minor Calamity spoilers that relate to a character/s:

Given that it is almost canon that Epics with creation abilities can only make temporary things, perhaps we should slightly retcon the powers of several of our creator-epics? For instance, the changes Funtimes makes could revert to normal in a few days. Cornucopia's grown items (with the exception of normal food which she just accelerates the growth of Stormwind-style) could fade away after a few days/a week, which makes sense given that the field workers would need to be very numerous and replace everyone's stuff on a weekly basis. It just justifies the sheer amount of stuff we see growing.

Just pondering.

Lucentia?

[Blaze1616 he/him]

I wouldn't really say that the limitations on one Epic count as "almost canon" Especially given that there was no indication of the crystals made with that one motivator tec inherently decay. Now, I'd agree that this type of power should be generally restricted in a reasonable way and that we may have acouple too much of them but bending over with retcons seems a bit extreme.

 

Nope.

 

Seems like it. Actually, we may already have to update the list.

Lemme think, there still should be Parity and Mundivore in Portland, Florist in the Dalles and Timelock in Astoria to name a couple that come to mind.

 

Blaze, a Kenshin post would probably be ridiculously short at this rate, so could you give me some info on what Buttercup would do after Kenshin opens the door for her, so I have a bit more to go on?

 

I was wondering what GOOD is up to, and if it would make more sense for a collab between Comatose, you, and myself? I've got a feeling we'll need to collab with Mestiv as well when that time comes.

[Mestiv he/him]

I was wondering what GOOD is up to, and if it would make more sense for a collab between Comatose, you, and myself? I've got a feeling we'll need to collab with Mestiv as well when that time comes.

 

I'm ready when you are 

[Kobold King he/him]

Yeah, I think we're jumping the gun a bit with wanting to retcon matter manipulation / creation powers.

 

Steelheart's steel never changed back and there was no note about Curveball's bullets disappearing after a while. Most importantly to me, Brandon Sanderson personally commented on Big Al's powerset and said nothing about why the Sausage McMuffins would disappear over time.

 

I think forming temporary constructs only is a specific Epic's limitation, not a defining feature of Epic creation powers as a whole.

[Vikro he/him]

Well your mental stage is partially dependant not only upon your experience but also upon the actual physical state of your brain, not to mention how not going through puberty might affect things.

I guess then he would think something along. 9-10 year old, but I don't think puberty would be a problem. I think he's young enough both physically and mentally enough that we can say for sure that he just hasn't started it.