Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 As I said, Normal Epics can be blown up, shot, poisoned, burned, etc. It's the High Epics that make the difference.
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Are people waiting on me? Statistically they probably are, but I seem to vaguely remember waiting on a Taylor post. How far behind the times am I? I'm not too sure on this but I was waiting for something on the Arsenal/Quicksilver front, with such a massive influence it's kind of hard to just write ahead since whatever happens next will likely be visible from most of the city.
Blackhoof Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 And I will echo Voidus' concerns about another necromancer- as cool as undead and liches are. I also think that since you are so new Chasm, it is better to focus on the Epic you currently have and integrate them into the story, before worrying about introducing new Epics.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 As I said, Normal Epics can be blown up, shot, poisoned, burned, etc. It's the High Epics that make the difference. Look, I'm running on not a lot of sleep here, so I'm just going to be blunt: When I said to keep his kill count under ten, I did not mean "Please argue this point until I relent." I meant "Keep it under ten." Yes, many Epics are fragile, and yes, many Epics can be killed with a bullet to the head. But they aren't. They have powers that allow them to skirt, slip, and cheat death to terrorize the populace another day. And even if it weren't for their powers, look at the infrastructure of cities like Newcago. Technically, David could have just shot Curveball anytime he wanted; Curveball had lame powers and he was a lousy shot. But when Epics are in charge, killing Epics carries serious consequences. This is why the Reckoners cherry-picked the Epics they were going to kill and then got the heck out of Dodge: Because they knew they'd only have time for one, maybe two, and they wanted to make those kills count. I feel like giving a character 32 confirmed Epic kills diminishes the significance of killing an Epic, and I don't want to argue this further. 2
Chandrian Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I've decided to join on to Corvallis, anything I should know as background?
Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) Look, I'm running on not a lot of sleep here, so I'm just going to be blunt: When I said to keep his kill count under ten, I did not mean "Please argue this point until I relent." I meant "Keep it under ten." Yes, many Epics are fragile, and yes, many Epics can be killed with a bullet to the head. But they aren't. They have powers that allow them to skirt, slip, and cheat death to terrorize the populace another day. And even if it weren't for their powers, look at the infrastructure of cities like Newcago. Technically, David could have just shot Curveball anytime he wanted; Curveball had lame powers and he was a lousy shot. But when Epics are in charge, killing Epics carries serious consequences. This is why the Reckoners cherry-picked the Epics they were going to kill and then got the heck out of Dodge: Because they knew they'd only have time for one, maybe two, and they wanted to make those kills count. I feel like giving a character 32 confirmed Epic kills diminishes the significance of killing an Epic, and I don't want to argue this further. Four High Epics and 6 Normal Epics. Blackhoof- OK, I'll put him on hold, but I think I modified his powers to avoid true necromancy. He could change and animate a grain of rice if he wanted to. Edited March 1, 2016 by Chasmfiend
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 Four High Epics and 6 Normal Epics. Two High Epics and eight normal Epics.
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I've decided to join on to Corvallis, anything I should know as background? Woo! Comatose, maybe Rainmaker could insist on Cornucopia having him as a guard? Their powers would work nicely and she is a bit fragile, someone with defensive oriented powers would be pretty handy. 1
Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Two High Epics and eight normal Epics. Yes, Master.
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Yes, Master. I doubt you meant it that way but this could be construed as pretty offensive. Twi's just trying to make the character fit a bit better in the universe. We have exactly one regular character who's killed a High Epic before and they became a local legend because of it.
Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 One... Person...? Oh... Sorry... 'Bout That... TwiLyght...
Comatose he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Woo! Comatose, maybe Rainmaker could insist on Cornucopia having him as a guard? Their powers would work nicely and she is a bit fragile, someone with defensive oriented powers would be pretty handy. That sounds good to me! For simplicity's sake, could we say that Lifebringer has been in Corvallis for a while? We've already had a lot of "new immigrant" scenes, and since we already have a role in mind perhaps it would be best to say he's been around for a while, and then he can start RPing with Cornucopia right away, instead of waiting to go through the immigration process. How, exactly, did one guy kill 4 High Epics? Getting through a prime invincibility is hardly a small feat. I honestly think that 1 High Epic kill is enough. It's also important to keep in mind that he's just one guy. The Reckoners, who David sees as the best (and only) force capable of taking on epics and winning, does things as a team. Even as the best of the best when it comes to epic-killing, the Reckoners usually choose low level high epics like Fortuity, and never go for power houses like Steelheart. Even though Fortuity's power set was extremely limited, and the Reckoners knew (or at least partially knew) his weakness, they still dedicated an entire team to his assassination. Considering the best epic fighting force in the country committed an entire team to the assassination of a single High Epic whose only offensive powers were enhanced reflexes, I think it's safe to say that having one person killing even two high epics on his own is pretty fantastic.
Nashan’Elin he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 What should I do if I want to get my character more involved in a thread? PM someone to do a collab?
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 That sounds good to me! For simplicity's sake, could we say that Lifebringer has been in Corvallis for a while? We've already had a lot of "new immigrant" scenes, and since we already have a role in mind perhaps it would be best to say he's been around for a while, and then he can start RPing with Cornucopia right away, instead of waiting to go through the immigration process. Sound good to you Bluefingers? What should I do if I want to get my character more involved in a thread? PM someone to do a collab? Generally yeah, I have a character free in Salem if you'd like?
Comatose he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 OK, OK, 1 High Epic, 9 Normal Epics. Sorry, I was not trying to imply that there was anything wrong with two (though I do feel one is more reasonable). I just wanted to draw attention to how difficult it is to kill high epics in the books even as a well organized well supplied team (with a gifter supplying them), and that in order to do the same as a lone individual is pretty incredible. Whether you do one or two high epics, you'll need to think about Cog's question - how were those high epics killed? What did your character discover their weakness? What resources was he able to draw on to supply himself during the mission, and how was he able to acquire the information he needed to carry out the plan successfully?
Kobold King he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 OK, OK, 1 High Epic, 9 Normal Epics. Is killing so many Epics really so integral to the backstory? Killing an Epic in the backstory is by far the most boring way to kill an Epic, especially if it's so many as to sound like a comical boast. Letting a character kill one Epic in their backstory, and making that event he most terrifying, death-defying experiences of their life, is waaaaaay more interesting in my opinion. 3
Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 They won't be mentioned much, other than the High Epic who will be mentioned once or twice.
Kobold King he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 They won't be mentioned much, other than the High Epic who will be mentioned once or twice. Then... respectfully I must ask what is the point? If it will not be mentioned, if it does nothing to define the character and make them more interesting, does it have a purpose other than to make the character seem more badchull? Forgive me for being blunt, but I am uncertain what narrative goal you are wishing to accomplish here.
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 They won't be mentioned much, other than the High Epic who will be mentioned once or twice. Kind of further makes the point, if they're not going to be mentioned why are they in the backstory? Is it just so the character has a reputation? Or is it just to make them seem more capable or violent? My favorite piece of advice on the subject of writing is 'is this the most interesting period of my characters life? And if not, why aren't I writing about that?' if you'd like them to have a reputation of an Epic killer why not try that in-game and see how it unfolds?
Clockwork he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Kind of further makes the point, if they're not going to be mentioned why are they in the backstory? Is it just so the character has a reputation? Or is it just to make them seem more capable or violent? My favorite piece of advice on the subject of writing is 'is this the most interesting period of my characters life? And if not, why aren't I writing about that?' if you'd like them to have a reputation of an Epic killer why not try that in-game and see how it unfolds? The reason I went through all this was just because TwiLyght asked. Only the one will really be mentioned. I notice this thread has been very active today compared to normal.
Nashan’Elin he/him Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Generally yeah, I have a character free in Salem if you'd like? I just re-read the Salem thread, so do you mean Savannah or Mel?
Voidus Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I just re-read the Salem thread, so do you mean Savannah or Mel? Either, but I was thinking Mel.
Blackhoof Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 And if they were killed with the goal of getting revenge on his brother, then why were their deaths necessary towards that? What is his plan to kill his brother?
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 The reason I went through all this was just because TwiLyght asked. Only the one will really be mentioned. I notice this thread has been very active today compared to normal. The main reason I asked was to see how low or high the number was, for the reasons Kobold and Voidus mentioned--if the number is too high it'll seem improbable compared to the rest of the world; if only a handful are mentioned, the others don't have much reason to exist. It's the law of conservation of detail: include only what is necessary to the story and world.
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