Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Wasn't it that they only target High Epics but not those that are too important? Otherwise him predicting their attack on Fortuity (a High Epic) would make very little sense. I thought they targeted Epics who were chull-holes, and so David theorized they'd target Fortuity. Maybe you're right. I was thinking Corvallis after a discussion with Edgedancer about joining Astoria, because there are more people that he'd be able to take stuff from. He doesn't care about ruling--he thinks it's too much effort. Instead, he just floats through an area, taking what he wants then moving on. However, after whatever happens when he heads into Corvallis, he would be sucked into staying, probably because Rainmaker & co. want to beat him up. Oh you didn't need to justify choosing Corvallis, I'm just wanting to know why a High Epic would choose Corvallis. If he's come to the city with plans to not stay long term, he'd likely sneak in rather than "legally" enter, because getting a home and servants doesn't sound like the thief style. And if he did enter through "legal" means, how much of his powers does he divulge to the city? You're welcome to write his entrance as a post, but he'll be answering some questions regarding his power set prior to entrance if he enters "legally".
The Swan Dragon he/him Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Oh you didn't need to justify choosing Corvallis, I'm just wanting to know why a High Epic would choose Corvallis. If he's come to the city with plans to not stay long term, he'd likely sneak in rather than "legally" enter, because getting a home and servants doesn't sound like the thief style. And if he did enter through "legal" means, how much of his powers does he divulge to the city? You're welcome to write his entrance as a post, but he'll be answering some questions regarding his power set prior to entrance if he enters "legally". Ah. He's not really a thief though, at least he doesn't think of it as such. He is an Epic, and he should be able to just take something. So...what questions should I put in him being asked for the "legal" entrance? Oh, and I'm planning on using Beazell Checkpoint, if no one minds. Thanks! Bai! ~Wpx
Citadel16 he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Please don't take this as rude, but this is so wrong it actually hurts. Have you held different types of swords? A Claymore vs a Katana vs a Rapier? I can't speak to gunplay, but swords are massively different. Even not accounting for which edges are bladed, the varying weights of the blades is enough to make them completely different. I didn't bother looking up any of the weapons that Bridge Boy listed, but if we're being realistic, by the age of 35 a person who has dedicated their lives to swordplay would be "master level" in one or two, but likely proficient in three or four. Im not saying the swords are different, they are. I am merely pointing out that a swordsmen is a thought process, not a title. He picks up a random blade and he will immediately understand how to use it. That's what being a sword master is all about. There is a great difference between claymores and rapiers. I agree. but Im just trying to point out that he would understand blades and how to use them no matter what he grew up training with. it might take some getting used to, but most blades will be able to be used with roughly the same fighting style.
Voidus Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 On the subject of sword mastery while it might sound cool, in game there's really not much of a way to differentiate between someone with reasonable proficiency and a master, to show off mastery you'd need to fight other people with swords which very few characters use, the way I see this progressing in most fights is just walking up to the enemy, portals opening and closing as they absorb bullets being fired then stab the enemy who can do very little to defend themselves. Not a great deal of skill necessary. 1
Comatose he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 The mods have been watching us since day one and they haven't stepped in, so we're assuming we're doing fine. Personally, I tend to give RPs a little more leeway, and from what I've read, Edgedancer (since it's usually Nighthound) seems to do an excellent job of writing those scenes sensitively, while still showing us how despicable the character is. If someone ever reported that the scenes made them feel bad, then we might need to have a conversation, but I think it would be a conversation rather than an ultimatum, unless the scene was especially bad, and the reaction was extreme. Did that make sense? That's just my personal philosophy when it comes to such things, and I'm generally anti-censorship, so if an issue arose, it would have to be discussed with the rest of the staff. I don't really foresee any of this being an issue, so right now the conversation is purely academic. Ah. He's not really a thief though, at least he doesn't think of it as such. He is an Epic, and he should be able to just take something. So...what questions should I put in him being asked for the "legal" entrance? Oh, and I'm planning on using Beazell Checkpoint, if no one minds. Thanks! Bai! ~Wpx So, here's the thing, Corvallis isn't a really "High Epics take what they want" kind of place. It's more of a "Rainmaker gets whatever she wants, and then she gives stuff to people she likes or who are useful to her" kind of place. What ThunderSpear thinks of as stealing or not stealing is irrelevant to whether or not he will run into trouble with Corvallis law enforcement if he tries to upset the status quo. As a high epic, he could expect to be treated well and given most things he would want, but it would be on Rainmaker's terms. If he had a problem with that, he would be forced to leave. I've been thinking more about the immigration process in Corvallis and High Epics. Since High Epics aren't super common, would it make sense for Rainmaker to meet with them personally? Thinking of the character, it would make sense for her to keep tabs on potential rivals, and make sure they will behave. That could set up some fun scenes with some of our newcomers anyways. ALSO, RE: The Dalles - I totally forgot that Frostfire's energy sense can differentiate epics. Should I wait for Emma to post before doing Taylor's reaction?
Blackhoof Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 It isn't necessarily the amount of weapons he has access to, just the simple idea that he is a master at all/most of them. As Voidus said, being a capital M Master is not necessary. simply being proficient with a wide variety of weapons, and perhaps a master at his one chosen one, would be more than enough to guarantee his survival in fights with other Epics. We do want you to play this character, there is no need to put him aside You have obviously devoted a lot of time to him
The Swan Dragon he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 So, here's the thing, Corvallis isn't a really "High Epics take what they want" kind of place. It's more of a "Rainmaker gets whatever she wants, and then she gives stuff to people she likes or who are useful to her" kind of place. What ThunderSpear thinks of as stealing or not stealing is irrelevant to whether or not he will run into trouble with Corvallis law enforcement if he tries to upset the status quo. As a high epic, he could expect to be treated well and given most things he would want, but it would be on Rainmaker's terms. If he had a problem with that, he would be forced to leave. I've been thinking more about the immigration process in Corvallis and High Epics. Since High Epics aren't super common, would it make sense for Rainmaker to meet with them personally? Thinking of the character, it would make sense for her to keep tabs on potential rivals, and make sure they will behave. That could set up some fun scenes with some of our newcomers anyways. He...wouldn't really care. He sees himself as immortal (I'll send you his weakness), though meeting with Rainmaker sounds good. It would be an...interesting discussion. You're Rainmaker, right? Would we use Google Docs for that or PM's? Thanks! Bai! ~Wpx
Comatose he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 You guys, I just realized that Calamity will already be out a week from now! We're so close to having those key secrets revealed!! Also, RE: Falchion (nice FE reference): From what I am seeing, it seems like you would like to utilize your knowledge of swords in the writing of your character, which is a great idea, since it's always good to write about things that excite you. The criticisms you are getting are not because you want to write a powerful or a cool character, its because it seems like you are bending reality with the amount of cool you are cramming into your character. My advice (if it counts for anything) would be to keep the powerset, since that's been approved, and make him an expert with one or two types of swords, and then have him be proficient at using others. Give him a favorite weapon or two that he has really focused on using, but have him experiment with others to diversify his fighting style. If that option doesn't appeal to you, and you really want him to be good at everything, I think the best way to include him without bending reality would be to include some sort of skill improvement power, though that will have to go through the whole approval process. If you are worried that giving your character expertise with just a few weapons, and mere proficiency with the rest, will hamper your ability to write about the different weapons that interest you, I'd suggest writing more than one character. I've had loads of RP characters fail because I was trying to do too many things with one character. It seems to me like you have a lot of good ideas that would all make great characters, and there's no reason you can't use them all if you split them up a bit. Just my two cents:) EDIT: And Ninja'd He...wouldn't really care. He sees himself as immortal (I'll send you his weakness), though meeting with Rainmaker sounds good. It would be an...interesting discussion. You're Rainmaker, right? Would we use Google Docs for that or PM's? Thanks! Bai! ~Wpx If he doesn't care, would that mean he would follow the rules out of indifference? Or would he break them? Because the result would be totally different. That being said, it could make for an interesting RP, so if you are willing to live with the consequences, I'm happy to try things out. And yes, I play Rainmaker. There's a link to my epic profiles in my sig, the letters are just small so it's hard to see. For the conversation, we could do a Google Doc or PM to plan, or we could play it out post by post. With my schedule, I tend to prefer to play post by post, but I'm willing to accommodate other preferences. 1
Mestiv he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Weirdpersonx: Drainer can have whatever you feel like is worth stealing all I've established so far is that he has "collected" a bunch of pretty girls as his servants and that he lives quite luxurious life, despite being not really that powerful. He's just really good at blackmailing. As for the "official" way of entering Corvallis: I came up with a process and some questions for newcomers to answer and everyone seem to be OK with that, so look at my second Argon post for description of his entry. Of course, you want to use different checkpoint, so you'll change this and that Comatose: Rainmaker meeting with new high epics seems cool. However, if Argon and Rainmaker will meet depends on Buttercup now I wonder if she'll find a way to confirm Argons status without risking a new conflict. I'm very curious how their conversation will go.
RippleGylf she/her Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Just got a short Heartsleeve post up in Salem. Hopefully it's okay. Also, are there any good opportunities for vanilla characters anywhere, or any that need adopting? Astoria? Sure. Any ideas for the character itself already? Well, I was thinking of maybe seeing how family relationships would work while there's Epics around, so perhaps a couple of twins? Would that be alright? This got kind of lost... One thing that I'll need to know is how the vanillas would live in Astoria. Where they would stay, how they would get food, etc.
Blackhoof Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah that sounds super interesting From what I have heard and what we've discussed, vanillas get to do pretty much whatever they like in Astoria. The Financier provides supplies for everyone, but gangs tend to control and vie for power in the city itself. Lucentia is a hands-off ruler.
Edgedancer he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Yeah that sounds super interesting From what I have heard and what we've discussed, vanillas get to do pretty much whatever they like in Astoria. The Financier provides supplies for everyone, but gangs tend to control and vie for power in the city itself. Lucentia is a hands-off ruler. This pretty much. Although the general rule of Epics killing vanillas still counts, as long as it is in "reasonable" amounts. Details might vary depending on which part of the City with which Epics they are in.
The Swan Dragon he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Weirdpersonx: Drainer can have whatever you feel like is worth stealing all I've established so far is that he has "collected" a bunch of pretty girls as his servants and that he lives quite luxurious life, despite being not really that powerful. He's just really good at blackmailing. As for the "official" way of entering Corvallis: I came up with a process and some questions for newcomers to answer and everyone seem to be OK with that, so look at my second Argon post for description of his entry. Of course, you want to use different checkpoint, so you'll change this and that Comatose: Rainmaker meeting with new high epics seems cool. However, if Argon and Rainmaker will meet depends on Buttercup now I wonder if she'll find a way to confirm Argons status without risking a new conflict. I'm very curious how their conversation will go. Ok...so should I wait to do a collab post with Comatose?
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Well, I was thinking of maybe seeing how family relationships would work while there's Epics around, so perhaps a couple of twins? Would that be alright? Great idea. Would you mind maybe me playing the other twin, just to get different perspectives? Edited February 10, 2016 by Anamaximder
Mestiv he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Ok...so should I wait to do a collab post with Comatose? I don't think so. Write the scene of your character crossing the checkpoint first (Rainmaker is too busy to greet everyone coming and she's not there, so you don't have to collab with Comatose). That would be a good place to start, then we'll see what next Edited February 10, 2016 by Mestiv
Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Im not saying the swords are different, they are. I am merely pointing out that a swordsmen is a thought process, not a title. He picks up a random blade and he will immediately understand how to use it. That's what being a sword master is all about. There is a great difference between claymores and rapiers. I agree. but Im just trying to point out that he would understand blades and how to use them no matter what he grew up training with. it might take some getting used to, but most blades will be able to be used with roughly the same fighting style. That's what I'm trying to say, the fighting styles are different. Sword skills are far more than merely being able to swing with speed. Rapiers require finesse, accuracy, and minuscule movements, while claymores are more about pure strength due to their weight making finesse nearly impossible. Mastering one type of sword does not automatically give you skills with all types of swords. They are vastly different. I've been thinking more about the immigration process in Corvallis and High Epics. Since High Epics aren't super common, would it make sense for Rainmaker to meet with them personally? Thinking of the character, it would make sense for her to keep tabs on potential rivals, and make sure they will behave. That could set up some fun scenes with some of our newcomers anyways. I was hoping you would suggest this, as I feel it makes the most sense, particularly since Buttercup's lack of a PI makes fighting High Epics rather difficult for her. So with that said, there's two High Epics that have recently entered the city; Chasmfiend and Thunderspear (once Thunderspear's post goes live). Buttercup hasn't notified Rainmaker about Argon just yet. Comatose: Rainmaker meeting with new high epics seems cool. However, if Argon and Rainmaker will meet depends on Buttercup now I wonder if she'll find a way to confirm Argons status without risking a new conflict. I'm very curious how their conversation will go. Yeah I'm dreading this right now. I still can't think of a good approach other than outright attacking him, which isn't wise for obvious reasons. But I'll get there!
Mestiv he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 When you approach you can notice that Argon is just walking by someone, talking. That might suggest Buttercup, that maybe a fist to the facet is not the best greeting for someone capable of verbal communication Argon didn't display aggressive behaviour so far...
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted February 10, 2016 Author Posted February 10, 2016 Nice intro, Weirdpersonx! Would you mind taking out the OOC stuff, though? It distracts from the story.
Edgedancer he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Personally, I tend to give RPs a little more leeway, and from what I've read, Edgedancer (since it's usually Nighthound) seems to do an excellent job of writing those scenes sensitively, while still showing us how despicable the character is. If someone ever reported that the scenes made them feel bad, then we might need to have a conversation, but I think it would be a conversation rather than an ultimatum, unless the scene was especially bad, and the reaction was extreme. Did that make sense? That's just my personal philosophy when it comes to such things, and I'm generally anti-censorship, so if an issue arose, it would have to be discussed with the rest of the staff. I don't really foresee any of this being an issue, so right now the conversation is purely academic. I'll distract myself from being singled out by concentrating on the praise. Anyway, in case anyone does feel I'm going overboard do go ahead and tell me. Great idea. Would you mind maybe me playing the other twin, just to get different perspectives? Persoanlly, I'd advise against splitting up characters that closely connected to each other unless you have a lot of confidence/experience RPing together with that person. Yeah I'm dreading this right now. I still can't think of a good approach other than outright attacking him, which isn't wise for obvious reasons. But I'll get there! If talking fails he could always happen to just step into a bunch of caltrops that just so happened to fall out of somebody's pants.
Mestiv he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 We're gonna have fun with ThunderSpear Blowing up bystanders is always good to push the action forward
Curious Anamaximder he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Persoanlly, I'd advise against splitting up characters that closely connected to each other unless you have a lot of confidence/experience RPing together with that person. I do have experience with Ripple, from Salem, but your point is good. Let's just see how Ripple replies.
Elithanathile he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Also, RE: Falchion (nice FE reference): From what I am seeing, it seems like you would like to utilize your knowledge of swords in the writing of your character, which is a great idea, since it's always good to write about things that excite you. The criticisms you are getting are not because you want to write a powerful or a cool character, its because it seems like you are bending reality with the amount of cool you are cramming into your character. My advice (if it counts for anything) would be to keep the powerset, since that's been approved, and make him an expert with one or two types of swords, and then have him be proficient at using others. Give him a favorite weapon or two that he has really focused on using, but have him experiment with others to diversify his fighting style. If that option doesn't appeal to you, and you really want him to be good at everything, I think the best way to include him without bending reality would be to include some sort of skill improvement power, though that will have to go through the whole approval process. If you are worried that giving your character expertise with just a few weapons, and mere proficiency with the rest, will hamper your ability to write about the different weapons that interest you, I'd suggest writing more than one character. I've had loads of RP characters fail because I was trying to do too many things with one character. It seems to me like you have a lot of good ideas that would all make great characters, and there's no reason you can't use them all if you split them up a bit. Okay, I'll thin it down to a couple weapons. (Crying here guys. So many cool swords D': (that's a weird emoticon, but I kinda think it fits. Kinda. Okay, maybe not so much, but I'm keepin' it.)) I do plan to make another character, with an idea that I got from my research, but I want the two to be different, so the way he uses swords will be radically different from Falchion. P.S. What's FE?
Blaze1616 he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) If talking fails he could always happen to just step into a bunch of caltrops that just so happened to fall out of somebody's pants. Very subtle. I actually laughed out loud. Weirdpersonx nice intro. Just so you're aware of the entry standards, new immigrants are ushered into a viewing plaza where a video of Rainmaker welcomes everyone to Corvallis and lays out the ground rules (vanillas work for Epics, Epics get homes and servants, etc.). At this point Tunderspear will likely be given keys to his new home, as well as said home's location, which is where his servants will be waiting for him. At that point he'd be free to wander wherever (and you can of course skip this part, but then you'd be kind of homeless). And as Twi mentioned, OOC is a bit of a faux pa here in the Reckoners RP. Any OOC we want to portray to the other players we just post in the Question Threads. Most, if not all, of the players that started the Reckoners RP had never partaken in an online RP before, and so common practices such as OOC didn't take hold. It was a bit off-putting for me too when I first joined P.S. What's FE? Fire Emblem, a SRPG video game series. The main character of the very first game (and subsequently the common mascot for the series) uses a Falchion as their special weapon. In a later sequel this character's descendants are still using the sword. You might know them if you play Super Smash Bros. (Marth and Lucina are the characters). The game series treats "Falchion" as the name of that specific sword, and not as a generic type of sword. Edited February 10, 2016 by Blaze1616
Voidus Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 Okay, I'll thin it down to a couple weapons. (Crying here guys. So many cool swords D': (that's a weird emoticon, but I kinda think it fits. Kinda. Okay, maybe not so much, but I'm keepin' it.)) I do plan to make another character, with an idea that I got from my research, but I want the two to be different, so the way he uses swords will be radically different from Falchion. P.S. What's FE? No reason he can't still have the swords, even be reasonably decent at using them, it's just the claiming that he has mastery over them all that was problematic. As I mentioned before for practical purposes he doesn't need to be a master of a weapon in order to use it effectively against opponents who are mostly completely unarmed or at most have a gun (Which doesn't do well against defending against swords however ineptly wielded they are) Very subtle. I actually laughed out loud. Weirdpersonx nice intro. Just so you're aware of the entry standards, new immigrants are ushered into a viewing plaza where a video of Rainmaker welcomes everyone to Corvallis and lays out the ground rules (vanillas work for Epics, Epics get homes and servants, etc.). At this point Tunderspear will likely be given keys to his new home, as well as said home's location, which is where his servants will be waiting for him. At that point he'd be free to wander wherever (and you can of course skip this part, but then you'd be kind of homeless). And as Twi mentioned, OOC is a bit of a faux pa here in the Reckoners RP. Any OOC we want to portray to the other players we just post in the Question Threads. Most, if not all, of the players that started the Reckoners RP had never partaken in an online RP before, and so common practices such as OOC didn't take hold. It was a bit off-putting for me too when I first joined I really prefer it this way, keeping OOC stuff in another thread. It makes the story flow a lot better. I read a lot of light novel translations too and I always get annoyed when the translators insert stuff in the middle of the text rather than just referencing it and listing the notes at the end.
The Swan Dragon he/him Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Alright! Thanks for all the feedback! I'll cut the OOC's (I'm just used to a much faster RP style, so they were a lot more important), and start working on his break-in with Drainer. Thanks! Bai! ~Wpx EDIT: Should I keep the ones at the end, or does that go in Questions as well? Edited February 10, 2016 by Weirdpersonx 1
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