Happy Boxings Day!

[Turos]

Free boxings for everyone! Don't let those filthy Lurchers steal yours.

[Stormgate he/him]

Why is today Boxings day?

[Turos]

There must be Mistborn fans in Canada or something.

 

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi3mqHQtPvJAhXE4CYKHe62DcgQFggyMAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FBoxing_Day&usg=AFQjCNHZBrKQMkzCruY6GoAIyoDBTszdQQ&sig2=jxrbF94FYov_9ut35oyVFw

[Delightful]

U.S. Doesn't have boxing day?

[Stormgate he/him]

Apparently not.

[Kaymyth she/her]

U.S. Doesn't have boxing day?

 

No, we do not.

[Chaos he/him]

Yeah, it is very much a tradition that is British in origin.

[Stormgate he/him]

And America generally doesn't like British traditions.

[Ookla the Absent]

Sucks for Americans, then.

'Course, my family's traditions come from the US, Brittan, Japan, a bit of Ecuador...

[The Sovereign]

Yeah, it is very much a tradition that is British in origin.

 

And America generally doesn't like British traditions.

 

Technically speaking, America as we currently know it is British in Origin...

[Stormgate he/him]

We changed the side of the road we drive on because we didn't like Britain. Yes, we come from Britain, and that makes us much less likely to be agreeable to British traditions.

[The Sovereign]

[Stormgate he/him]

And that, class, is America in one meme.

Edited December 28, 2015 by Stormgate

[Citadel16 he/him]

And America generally doesn't like British traditions.

we kinda dumped them into the harbor when we ran out of tea.

[Plaeggs he/him]

I don't get it. No boxing day? Everyone has boxing day I thought. What happened to "The sun never sets on the British Empire" and all? What do the Americans have in its stead? Wrestling day?

 

And since when did Oosa "Throw out" Britain? Britain withdrew; the cost of supporting them was so high that when they had their revolution, Britain dropped them and ran.

 

Kappa. I'm Canadian by the way. And I dare you to point out the holes in my jesting. About to get yelled at by a bunch of angry Americans. 

Edited December 29, 2015 by Plaeggs

[Ookla the Absent]

I don't get it. No boxing day? Everyone has boxing day I thought. What happened to "The sun never sets on the British Empire" and all? What do the Americans have in its stead? Wrestling day?

Um, Christmas Hangover day? Nothing on the calendars...

[Plaeggs he/him]

We changed the side of the road we drive on because we didn't like Britain. Yes, we come from Britain, and that makes us much less likely to be agreeable to British traditions.

The only reason that America drives on the right side of the road is because of a dispute with the union of carriage drivers; it was more convenient for them to drive on the right side of the road due to the position of their whips. Now, this sentiment is true for France, as Napoleon, when he took power, wanted to distinguish himself from Britain, so on a whim he changed the side of the road that they drove on. Just saying. Thought you  should know in case it comes up on a trivia game. Fun fact, defenestration is "the act of throwing someone out of a window." My English teacher once won a trivia game that way.

Edited December 29, 2015 by Plaeggs

[Zathoth]

Me thinks defenestration is a great way to win everything, especially arguments.

[skaa he/him]

Americans drive on the right side of the road because they don't want to drive on the wrong side.

(I live in the Philippines. We drive on the correct side of the road as well...at least most of the time.)

Edit: Where I live, the only Boxing Day we know is when Manny Pacquiao has a fight and everyone stops what they're doing just to watch. Seriously, those days are when the roads are empty and the crime rate goes down. Now that's what I call a holiday!

Edited December 30, 2015 by skaa

[Blaze1616 he/him]

I don't get it. No boxing day? Everyone has boxing day I thought. What happened to "The sun never sets on the British Empire" and all? What do the Americans have in its stead? Wrestling day?

 

And since when did Oosa "Throw out" Britain? Britain withdrew; the cost of supporting them was so high that when they had their revolution, Britain dropped them and ran.

 

Kappa. I'm Canadian by the way. And I dare you to point out the holes in my jesting. About to get yelled at by a bunch of angry Americans. 

 

Though I am American, I'm not really angry that you got it wrong. After all, it really depends on the education system you went through that decides the level of detail that the American Revolution is given. For example, a buddy who went to school in the UK said that their history classes covers the entire war in about a paragraph. Something along the lines of "Oh and then the Yanks decided they wanted to be their own country, and after a short tiff we gave it to them."

 

To mildly correct you, for accuracy's sake, the British gave up only after a 7 year war (fighting effectively stopped 1781, treaty signed 1783 which would be 9 years) which also involved the French and Spanish. In fact, if it wasn't for the French fleet in Yorktown, the war could have lasted much longer. Regardless, Britain likely gave up due to the frustration of fighting guerrilla warfare and saving wartime resources such as soldiers and preservable food. Keep in mind that the colonies didn't provide much, but what they did provide was valuable (essentially free tobacco and money from taxes).

 

Interestingly, had the British sent over a third army after the surrender at Yorktown, they likely would have won. The French just sort of left, and the US's treasury was empty, so the 1782 year was very nail-biting in regards to whether the British would return or not. But the didn't, and as a result the US got all the land east of the Mississippi River, Britain retained Canada while giving the US rights to fish off the Canadian shore, and Spain retained Florida.

 

Let's also not forget the impact on Britain as a whole. They didn't merely retreat and continue on as though nothing happened, but rather suffered an intense crisis. The country had to come to terms with the fact that their military wasn't as mighty as they thought, as well as the fact that they had virtually no allies. In addition, political antagonism was on the rise, and parliament shifted their concerns from an overly powerful monarch to representation and reform, with reformers looking to oust "institutional corruption." Luckily for the British, Prime Minister Shelburne, who was in charge of British affairs at the Paris Peace Treaty in 1783, was a very smart man. He recognized how powerful an ally the US would become, economically, should they be allowed to flourish. So he gave them the described conditions above, and removed the blockade on trade. As a result of the American market rapidly growing, the British economy boomed too, and the crisis ended by 1784. In the end, it's believed that the loss of the American colonies, and the ensuing crisis, put Britain in a place that enabled it to handle the French Revolution and later form the Second British Empire.

[Stormgate he/him]

I'm American, and I didn't know that much. Upvotes for your history lesson!

[Plaeggs he/him]

Though I am American, I'm not really angry that you got it wrong. After all, it really depends on the education system you went through that decides the level of detail that the American Revolution is given. For example, a buddy who went to school in the UK said that their history classes covers the entire war in about a paragraph. Something along the lines of "Oh and then the Yanks decided they wanted to be their own country, and after a short tiff we gave it to them."

 

To mildly correct you, for accuracy's sake, the British gave up only after a 7 year war (fighting effectively stopped 1781, treaty signed 1783 which would be 9 years) which also involved the French and Spanish. In fact, if it wasn't for the French fleet in Yorktown, the war could have lasted much longer. Regardless, Britain likely gave up due to the frustration of fighting guerrilla warfare and saving wartime resources such as soldiers and preservable food. Keep in mind that the colonies didn't provide much, but what they did provide was valuable (essentially free tobacco and money from taxes).

 

Interestingly, had the British sent over a third army after the surrender at Yorktown, they likely would have won. The French just sort of left, and the US's treasury was empty, so the 1782 year was very nail-biting in regards to whether the British would return or not. But the didn't, and as a result the US got all the land east of the Mississippi River, Britain retained Canada while giving the US rights to fish off the Canadian shore, and Spain retained Florida.

 

Let's also not forget the impact on Britain as a whole. They didn't merely retreat and continue on as though nothing happened, but rather suffered an intense crisis. The country had to come to terms with the fact that their military wasn't as mighty as they thought, as well as the fact that they had virtually no allies. In addition, political antagonism was on the rise, and parliament shifted their concerns from an overly powerful monarch to representation and reform, with reformers looking to oust "institutional corruption." Luckily for the British, Prime Minister Shelburne, who was in charge of British affairs at the Paris Peace Treaty in 1783, was a very smart man. He recognized how powerful an ally the US would become, economically, should they be allowed to flourish. So he gave them the described conditions above, and removed the blockade on trade. As a result of the American market rapidly growing, the British economy boomed too, and the crisis ended by 1784. In the end, it's believed that the loss of the American colonies, and the ensuing crisis, put Britain in a place that enabled it to handle the French Revolution and later form the Second British Empire.

That is entirely correct (according to wikipedia). Both the history lesson and the statement about non-US schools. We have learned almost nothing about it. Thus the Kappa. It seems that your buddy had the same education as my British socials teacher. She's pretty abrasive, too, so attempting to ask her to further explain the whole "Britain was never defeated" deal, what with the American Civil War and all, is invariably met with a backlash not worth the value of the information. I was just poking the bear, in a sense, with that comment straight from Mrs. G's lips. Anyways, thank you for setting me straight, I applaud your patriotism, though with your attitude, you would do well as a Canadian. I stand by my comment about the sides of the road, though.

Edited January 7, 2016 by Plaeggs

[Blaze1616 he/him]

 

That is entirely correct (according to wikipedia). Both the history lesson and the statement about non-US schools. We have learned almost nothing about it. Thus the Kappa. It seems that your buddy had the same education as my British socials teacher. She's pretty abrasive, too, so attempting to ask her to further explain the whole "Britain was never defeated" deal, what with the American Civil War and all, is invariably met with a backlash not worth the value of the information. I was just poking the bear, in a sense, with that comment straight from Mrs. B's lips. Anyways, thank you for setting me straight, I applaud your patriotism, though with your attitude, you would do well as a Canadian. I stand by my comment about the sides of the road, though.

 

It does surprise me that you didn't learn much about it, being in Canada. Our histories are so tied together that I figured you'd learn something about it, particularly since US independence is the spark that would eventually become the raging fire if independent colonies around the world. Plus, the end of the war brought an influx of British loyalists into Canada, as well as the War of 1812 leading to rebellions within Canada, so the American Revolution had some rather large effects up there.

 

My apologies if my response seemed unnecessary, I knew your comments were in jest. But better a cool head respond than a hot one, if you ask me. Plus, history is incredibly interesting. 

 

To be fair to your abrasive instructor, the British weren't really defeated, per say. As noted, they only sent two armies, and after the failed rescue attempt of the second army in Yorktown, the British just never bothered to come back with a third. One could hardly say the Colonies had fought back the British at full strength. So, paying attention to terminology, were the British defeated? No, only two of their armies were defeated, but as a whole they were held off for 7 years worth of fighting by a rag-tag group of 13 colonies, of which not 100% of the population were against the British. It's an astounding feat that, in all honesty, shouldn't have happened, so to deny the effort the British put into retaining the colonies would be foolish, but I can't necessarily say she's wrong.

[Stormgate he/him]

Don't apologize for your response, most of us are nerds on one level or another, and I appreciated a summary of the Revolutionary War from a history nerd. Note that I mean 'nerd' as a compliment of intelligence.

[Plaeggs he/him]

 

It does surprise me that you didn't learn much about it, being in Canada. Our histories are so tied together that I figured you'd learn something about it, particularly since US independence is the spark that would eventually become the raging fire if independent colonies around the world. Plus, the end of the war brought an influx of British loyalists into Canada, as well as the War of 1812 leading to rebellions within Canada, so the American Revolution had some rather large effects up there.

 

My record with history teachers has been kinda shifty. Grade 8 was fine. My teacher, he was the best. Super cool, everyone loved him. An amazing guy, and straight with you too. Even made up a game called embarrassment and humiliation, like an elimination trivia where you are shamed if you get a wrong answer. Downhill from there, though. Grade 9, my teacher spent 6 months on the French revolution. It was awful. We watched a bugs life to demonstrate the industrial revolution, then skipped the last 20 minutes, but included all of the hero's dilemma fluff in the middle. During that year, we skipped half of the curriculum, including the war of 1812. Thus my lack of information. My current socials teacher, who I have had for a couple of years now, is make no mistake, while abrasive at times, an amazing teacher. She prepares you for stuff like no one else. Super in-depth classes, and very knowledgeable, just very hard to talk to when she sets her mind to it. 

 

You though, deserve a gluten free, non-GMO, vegan, low fat, vaccine free, politically correct cookie (or whatever's trendy these days) for that lesson. Non-hemalurgic too. Or just have a full Irish Breakfast. Those are good too. Mmm. I'm hungry now. There's some cold bacon in the fridge. I'm gonna go make a sandwich.