Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 That's generally my solution, the problem is with how her powers did work that it's practically impossible, I've already had her pushing continuously outwards from her body and I think I mentioned that that includes air, and since air is gaseous that means it has to work at an atomic level. I could alter her ability so it effects entire objects rather than just the surface that touches her but then I run into the aforementioned problem of shifting the earths orbit and I'd have to retcon certain scenes, like the fight with Deathwish and also the scene where she became corrupted. Not really. Just because she can affect it doesn't mean she can do it with atomic presicion, nor does it mean that she can convey the momentum as strong on it as she could on solids. 1
Mestiv he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Well, the scale doesn't have to be that small to reach interesting effects. Let's see. I haven't read the Dalles thread so I don't know if she needs to touch an object to take its' momentum, but that doesn't matter. She takes momentum from a driving car. The car weights 1500kg and is going 50km/h. Now, she gives this momentum to a small metal ball that weights 100g (that's not that small). The car's momentum was: 75 000 kg*km/h. That gives this metal ball the velocity of 750 000 km/h. That's around 208 km/s... Hmm... That's fast. The ball would probably evaporate almost instantly and generate a powerful shockwave. Make the ball 100kg and the speed is now 208m/s, that's more or less the speed of a bullet when leaving the gun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_velocity). Cool, 100kg bullet, that's like what big cannons shoot As we can see here meteorites enter Earth atmosphere with speed ranging from from 11 km/sec (25,000 mph), to 72 km/sec (160,000 mph!). Edited January 12, 2016 by Mestiv 1
Blaze1616 he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Hello guys, I'm back from an extended brake from the org, and getting caught back up with the story. Welcome back! I hope my post with her actions wasn't too unbelievable for the character. Looking forward to your posts again!
TheSilverDragon he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Welcome back! I hope my post with her actions wasn't too unbelievable for the character. Looking forward to your posts again!They were pretty aligned with what I had in mind for her.Also, when is the next big fight with the possibility of an exploration in any of the threads so Converter could reincarnate there when she dies.
Blaze1616 he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 We just finished a large-ish conflict with the ghouls, so it's unknown when the next skirmish will go down.
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 So, I have a collection of minor Epics that I want to use, but I should probably clear their powers with everyone here. Any thoughts on how to do this? (I have 10 Epics.)
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 So, I have a collection of minor Epics that I want to use, but I should probably clear their powers with everyone here. Any thoughts on how to do this? (I have 10 Epics.) Well, the best way would be to tell us their powers.
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 Just a line or two for each one. You can go into more detail as questions are asked.
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Freezerburn: Can make fire that freezes instead of heats up. Causes frostbite. Can only be put out with heat and by Freezerburn. Red Light: By hitting any object, he sets its velocity relative to the Earth to zero. He is insane and wants to punch the moon, destroying the world. I have to go now, more later. 1
Mestiv he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Freezerburn: Can make fire that freezes instead of heats up. Causes frostbite. Can only be put out with heat and by Freezerburn. Red Light: By hitting any object, he sets its velocity relative to the Earth to zero. He is insane and wants to punch the moon, destroying the world. I have to go now, more later. Feezerburn: Does this fire spread in any way? Does he have to touch something to "light it"? Red Light: I like this one If he touch me, would he stop my heart? Will continous touch cause my whole body (including heart) to freeze motionless? If he "hit" the ocean would he stop the currents? Does he have to *hit* or a touch is enough?
RippleGylf she/her Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Freezerburn: Can make fire that freezes instead of heats up. Causes frostbite. Can only be put out with heat and by Freezerburn. Red Light: By hitting any object, he sets its velocity relative to the Earth to zero. He is insane and wants to punch the moon, destroying the world. I have to go now, more later. For Red Light, how long does the object's velocity remain 0? Are all of the forces affecting the object temporarily nullified? By punching a person's chest, will it set his entire body's velocity to zero, including internal organs?
Kobold King he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Freezerburn: Can make fire that freezes instead of heats up. Causes frostbite. Can only be put out with heat and by Freezerburn. Red Light: By hitting any object, he sets its velocity relative to the Earth to zero. He is insane and wants to punch the moon, destroying the world. I have to go now, more later. I like them both, but you should know that if you want to use the name "Red Light" you have to fight a duel with Redlight, who's already freezing people in their tracks in The Dalles. 1
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Freezerburn: Can make fire that freezes instead of heats up. Causes frostbite. Can only be put out with heat and by Freezerburn. Red Light: By hitting any object, he sets its velocity relative to the Earth to zero. He is insane and wants to punch the moon, destroying the world. I have to go now, more later. For RL, what happens if something, like a bullet, hits him, without him knowing? Also, could he actually affect something as large as the moon? If you don't mind me asking, what do you want to do with them? I like them both, but you should know that if you want to use the name "Red Light" you have to fight a duel with Redlight, who's already freezing people in their tracks in The Dalles. Alternative names would include Mr. Stop and Punch as well as Knockout and Standstill.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Has anyone set up a base in the middle school? I'd like to take it. This is also my first RP post. What do people think? I don't think anyone has taken the middle school directly but it is nect to Shively Park, which has been taken, so you might want to talk with RippleGylf about that. Apart from that, I'd have to say that traveling a mile if not more by power plus a big fight is probably well above the "could supress the corruption" threshold.
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Not really. Just because she can affect it doesn't mean she can do it with atomic presicion, nor does it mean that she can convey the momentum as strong on it as she could on solids. I'd need to do some maths to be sure but she wouldn't need to use it on individual atoms, more like if she just concentrated on the area between two fingers, might not be at fusion levels then but it would still do some bad things. Well, the scale doesn't have to be that small to reach interesting effects. Let's see. I haven't read the Dalles thread so I don't know if she needs to touch an object to take its' momentum, but that doesn't matter. She takes momentum from a driving car. The car weights 1500kg and is going 50km/h. Now, she gives this momentum to a small metal ball that weights 100g (that's not that small). The car's momentum was: 75 000 kg*km/h. That gives this metal ball the velocity of 750 000 km/h. That's around 208 km/s... Hmm... That's fast. The ball would probably evaporate almost instantly and generate a powerful shockwave. Make the ball 100kg and the speed is now 208m/s, that's more or less the speed of a bullet when leaving the gun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_velocity). Cool, 100kg bullet, that's like what big cannons shoot As we can see here meteorites enter Earth atmosphere with speed ranging from from 11 km/sec (25,000 mph), to 72 km/sec (160,000 mph!). Impact just imparts momentum, her sister MV is the one who steals it. But yeah, that's one of the reasons I state that she's one of my most OP Epics. Also: Has anyone set up a base in the middle school? I'd like to take it. This is also my first RP post. What do people think? Stormgate posted this at the end of his post, moving here so everyone can see it and to keep OOC stuff out of the RP thread.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 I'd need to do some maths to be sure but she wouldn't need to use it on individual atoms, more like if she just concentrated on the area between two fingers, might not be at fusion levels then but it would still do some bad things. Impact just imparts momentum, her sister MV is the one who steals it. But yeah, that's one of the reasons I state that she's one of my most OP Epics. Also: Stormgate posted this at the end of his post, moving here so everyone can see it and to keep OOC stuff out of the RP thread. Let me reiterate part of what I said. nor does it mean that she can convey the momentum as strong on it as she could on solids. or heck, just make it so that there's an upper limit to the speed she can cause, even if the overall amount of momentum is tecnically lower than what she could create. This ain't science, you can add all kind of caveats. You are my new hero. (any chance you could clean up the old Portland sections? )
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Let me reiterate part of what I said. or heck, just make it so that there's an upper limit to the speed she can cause, even if the overall amount of momentum is tecnically lower than what she could create. This ain't science, you can add all kind of caveats. You are my new hero. (any chance you could clean up the old Portland sections? ) Yeah I obviously don't intend to just leave her capable of that but there are some cool but less apocalypse ushering uses that I wouldn't mind being able to play with. So I'm trying to think of what the best caveat would be. I think your idea of limiting maximum speed is probably a good one, either that or change her power to affect speed rather than momentum but then I can't call them the 'momentum twins' Anything specific? I'll have a quick look but I don't know of any recent OOC stuff.
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Red Light can only affect the stuff his hands touch, which completely nullifies all forces for one second. He could hit the moon and have it destroy the Earth, but he's very forward about wanting to destroy the Earth. Strangely, very few Epics want to help him. BTW, he's called Red Light because the things he hit glow red. Freezerburn's flames do indeed spread like normal fire. And Freezerburn is a girl. Also, she has extreme resistance to the cold. I'm planning to make an Epic Army of sorts. Okay, new Epics. Timekeeper: When he touches a clock, it is repaired, the battery is charged, and it is synchronized to the correct time. If he changes the time on a clock, it is still correct, he just travels through time. Unless the clock has an option for a calendar, he can't travel outside of the day he is in. Unless it has a year option, he can't travel outside the year he is in. The Unstoppable Force: Superspeed and minor superstrength. Can't touch this. The Immovable Object: When he uses his powers, he cannot be moved relative to what he is on at the time. If he is in a plane, he isn't getting out of that seat. He also has invulnerability only when he is Immovable. He is friends with the Unstoppable Force. Bugger: This guy is evil. His two abilities are to annoy anyone he wants and to be unable to be killed by someone who is upset at him. Phaseshift: can heat up or cool down an object to the point of its phase change as long as she is touching it. Can turn solids to liquids, liquids to gases or solids, and gases to liquids. If an object would burn before being liquefied or evaporated, or cannot exist as that state of matter, the power doesn't work. Has a range for control about 5 cm for gases, a yard for liquids, and she can do basically what she wants with solids except turn the Earth's surface into lava. Has heat and cold resistance to let her touch stuff like magma or liquid nitrogen and be unharmed. Diagnosis: If he gives someone a diagnosis, they have the condition he described for the next two hours. Can only do physical problems, however. Slapshot: can turn his hand into a gun barrel by holding a bullet and fire it by slapping the back of the hand barrel Wear'n'Tear: can make any object turn into what it would be after a long period of wear and tear. Athlete: has enhanced speed, strength, agility, accuracy, etc. only when doing something similar to what would be done in a sport. Can also make sporting equipment for any game from objects of similar size and shape. Vector: when he focuses on an object, he instinctively knows all the vectors influencing it at any time, and can change the direction of one of those vectors for five minutes. The maximum mass he can influence is a tank. He hates Despicable Me. Locator: He can know where something/someone is as long as he has previously set a 'tag' on them. Accuracy increases with proximity. For example, he can only know the continent if it's on a different continent, city if it's in the same state, etc.
Edgedancer he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Red Light can only affect the stuff his hands touch, which completely nullifies all forces for one second. He could hit the moon and have it destroy the Earth, but he's very forward about wanting to destroy the Earth. Strangely, very few Epics want to help him. BTW, he's called Red Light because the things he hit glow red. Freezerburn's flames do indeed spread like normal fire. And Freezerburn is a girl. Also, she has extreme resistance to the cold. I'm planning to make an Epic Army of sorts. Okay, new Epics. Timekeeper: When he touches a clock, it is repaired, the battery is charged, and it is synchronized to the correct time. If he changes the time on a clock, it is still correct, he just travels through time. Unless the clock has an option for a calendar, he can't travel outside of the day he is in. Unless it has a year option, he can't travel outside the year he is in. The Unstoppable Force: Superspeed and minor superstrength. Can't touch this. The Immovable Object: When he uses his powers, he cannot be moved relative to what he is on at the time. If he is in a plane, he isn't getting out of that seat. He also has invulnerability only when he is Immovable. He is friends with the Unstoppable Force. Bugger: This guy is evil. His two abilities are to annoy anyone he wants and to be unable to be killed by someone who is upset at him. Phaseshift: can heat up or cool down an object to the point of its phase change as long as she is touching it. Can turn solids to liquids, liquids to gases or solids, and gases to liquids. If an object would burn before being liquefied or evaporated, or cannot exist as that state of matter, the power doesn't work. Has a range for control about 5 cm for gases, a yard for liquids, and she can do basically what she wants with solids except turn the Earth's surface into lava. Has heat and cold resistance to let her touch stuff like magma or liquid nitrogen and be unharmed. Diagnosis: If he gives someone a diagnosis, they have the condition he described for the next two hours. Can only do physical problems, however. Slapshot: can turn his hand into a gun barrel by holding a bullet and fire it by slapping the back of the hand barrel Wear'n'Tear: can make any object turn into what it would be after a long period of wear and tear. Athlete: has enhanced speed, strength, agility, accuracy, etc. only when doing something similar to what would be done in a sport. Can also make sporting equipment for any game from objects of similar size and shape. Vector: when he focuses on an object, he instinctively knows all the vectors influencing it at any time, and can change the direction of one of those vectors for five minutes. The maximum mass he can influence is a tank. He hates Despicable Me. Locator: He can know where something/someone is as long as he has previously set a 'tag' on them. Accuracy increases with proximity. For example, he can only know the continent if it's on a different continent, city if it's in the same state, etc. Okay, I'm too tired right now for commentary on all the Epics, so that'll have to wait, so just two things: 1) Were you planing on recruiting those in Astoria? 2)No backwards timetravel for Timekeeper.
Stormgate he/him Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) Timekeeper can go back in time, just not to the previous day. 12:01 that morning is about as far as he can go without being very precise. Is there a problem with putting them all in Astoria? I'm dabbling with the idea. Edited January 12, 2016 by Stormgate
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Timekeeper can go back in time, just not to the previous day. 12:01 that morning is about as far as he can go without being very precise. Is there a problem with putting them all in Astoria? I'm dabbling with the idea. I don't think that was a question, we're not allowing any backwards time travel in the RP right now (Except for a very brief, limited burst from two Epics who worked in concert but that's probably not going to happen again either)
TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her Posted January 12, 2016 Author Posted January 12, 2016 I don't think that was a question, we're not allowing any backwards time travel in the RP right now (Except for a very brief, limited burst from two Epics who worked in concert but that's probably not going to happen again either) Right. The potential for screwing with canon events is just too great. The event Voidus mentioned was the exception, and that's because it was a stable time loop affecting a single character's timeline.
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Right. The potential for screwing with canon events is just too great. The event Voidus mentioned was the exception, and that's because it was a stable time loop affecting a single character's timeline. After a certain discussion in a different thread, I'm now suffering from a compulsion to append 'but with more dragon slaying' to every post I see.
Voidus Posted January 12, 2016 Posted January 12, 2016 Uh, guys… This is a problem. This basically vitiates the entire premise of Clarence's story. Backtrack didn't flee, like my faulty memory told me, and it doesn't make sense that the Guard would send someone to bring back/terminate an Epic that the City Guard willingly let go. I really don't know what to do… My second Clarence post is coming along, but since there's only one active and he hasn't really made any influence on the plot, I could just hide the post. I'm really sorry about this mistake. What should I do? Well with the addition of Impact trying to kill one of the main Epics in town, perhaps his orders could be changed to tracking down her twin sister whom they let go before they knew about that?
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