poisonedbite Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 like a baseball player cracking a home run, redirecting the ball. Prof basically used his shields like Newton did to bounce from buildings, albeit on a much greater scale.
Voidus Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 like a baseball player cracking a home run, redirecting the ball. Prof basically used his shields like Newton did to bounce from buildings, albeit on a much greater scale. You can redirect a ball without putting in any force at all in an elastic collision, certainly doesn't mean prof produced the same amount of energy. And again even if he did that doesn't necessarily make him more powerful. Going purely by energy the most powerful Epic we know of is Curveball. Creating matter out of nothing for his gun is orders of magnitude more powerful than Regalia, Steelheart and Obliteration put together if you were strictly taking energy into account.
poisonedbite Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 well no. elastic collisions could only work if both objects had the same amount of energy AFTER they meet as before the collision. I'd say both prof and the bomb expended quite a lot of energy. Unless he's also a nuclear reactor and can instantly replenish his energy. But alas, like most high epics after a massive release of energy, prof had a small moment of weakness where all he could manage was a small forcefield.
Voidus Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 well no. elastic collisions could only work if both objects had the same amount of energy AFTER they meet as before the collision. I'd say both prof and the bomb expended quite a lot of energy. Unless he's also a nuclear reactor and can instantly replenish his energy. But alas, like most high epics after a massive release of energy, prof had a small moment of weakness where all he could manage was a small forcefield. That's kinda my point, the bomb didn't diminish in energy in any way, the energy was just redirected.
WayneSpren he/him Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 There is a theory that Prof's weakness is gambling/luck.
Quiver he/him Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 There is a theory that Prof's weakness is gambling/luck. Wouldn't the climax of Steelheart work against that? They were guessing -gambling- on what Steelhearts weakness was, but Prof still had his powers...
Blackhoof Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 What I wonder is if Phaedrus would even need to wait Steelheart out. At his full power, with two Prime Invincibilities and possibly abilities we haven't yet seen (like the physical ones David wonders about)... would he even still fear Steelheart? Actually the only way I see him not being able to kill Steelheart is if how Epic powers/weaknesses stem from fear would have prevented any Epic from killing Steelheart. Which might explain why Faultline couldn't kill him. I assumed before that it was because she really did fear him, despite what she might have told herself, but I suppose it could also be that Epics are naturally fearful. Faultline is just so stupid. She couldn't kill him because her power is to sink things. Which is cool. But Steelheart can fly! And shoot energy blasts! And is invincible! And fly! Goddamit Faultline.... @natc It's hard to be afraid of somebody who's helplessly trapped in one of your supremely powerful force fields... Epics are naturally fearful. Despite their rhetoric they are legitimately scared like, all the time. Fear rules their actions. They are even more fearful than normal people, certainly willing to go to greater and more extreme ends simply to protect themselves from the mere possibility of harm than normal people. No matter how superior they claim to be (with Epics like Faultline challenging Steelheart), Epics are still deeply insecure about their safety. They will fear Steelheart no matter where he is, even if they have come specifically to kill him, and are consciously 100% sure (but subconsciously unsure) that they can beat him. Prof himself feared Steelheart, despite being invincible. You can redirect a ball without putting in any force at all in an elastic collision, certainly doesn't mean prof produced the same amount of energy. And again even if he did that doesn't necessarily make him more powerful. Going purely by energy the most powerful Epic we know of is Curveball. Creating matter out of nothing for his gun is orders of magnitude more powerful than Regalia, Steelheart and Obliteration put together if you were strictly taking energy into account. Well actually Steelheart's energy blasts look like they consist of lots of energy, lots of heat certainly, and it is all coming out of nowhere. Same with Sourcefield, Conflux and Mitosis (creating lots of energy, lots of energy, and entire new selves, respectively). If anything, going by power, Conflux or Mitosis take the cake (mitosis because all the new matter of his clones probably have lots more energy (e=mc^2 and all) than Conflux can produce.
Voidus Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Well actually Steelheart's energy blasts look like they consist of lots of energy, lots of heat certainly, and it is all coming out of nowhere. Same with Sourcefield, Conflux and Mitosis (creating lots of energy, lots of energy, and entire new selves, respectively). If anything, going by power, Conflux or Mitosis take the cake (mitosis because all the new matter of his clones probably have lots more energy (e=mc^2 and all) than Conflux can produce. 1 bullet contains roughly 1.8*10^15 J of energy, that's about 30 times the energy of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima. That's leagues beyond what Obliterations city-leveling ability that takes several days to charge can do, let alone Steelhearts energy balls. Mitosis it was said caused his clones to be less dense somehow to conserve matter. By firing less than 100 bullets a day Curveball would create enough energy to power the entire planet, Conflux manages to power some of Chicago and that only after a severe population reduction.
natc Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Shame we don't have a way to annihilate Curveball's bullets.
Voidus Posted August 19, 2015 Posted August 19, 2015 Shame we don't have a way to annihilate Curveball's bullets. Until Calamity when Firefight will summon a Curveball from the universe made of antimatter 1
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