Question 16

[Edgedancer he/him]

Edge and I could take the edge (hahaha) off with a hypothetical Jack and Autumn date sometime in the future....

Maybe they need a romantic walk to the HQ instead of waiting in RP limbo.

 

@Edge

Do you value practicality or logic more? If you value practicality, you're an ST, if you value logic, you're an NT.

Both (or neither depending how you look at it, I guess) and I don't mean that in the logic is practical way but in the those two aren't mutally exclusive way.

 

 

 

 

 

Then Revolution saw his update and assumed Max had a crush on her. Wacky sitcom hijinks ensued.

 

And thus started the first oregonese flamewar.

 

Can Voidgaze get the subforum for adorable stuff like pug pictures?

I have 14.   And I'm not sure if that is counting all of Dragoon and his horsemen as 1 or as 5.

Isn't Dragoon the only one that you gave a POV at this point? Cause by definition that would mean the horsemen don't count.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Maybe they need a romantic walk to the HQ instead of waiting in RP limbo.

 

Because talking about the very real possibility one half of the pairing might go back to prison is so romantic.  

[Mailliw73 he/him]

I have 14.   And I'm not sure if that is counting all of Dragoon and his horsemen as 1 or as 5. 

I've got a whole bunch if you count each Destructor and all the TT members I control.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Because talking about the very real possibility one half of the pairing might go back to prison is so romantic.

I know, right? Still we have Nighthound now, so we need something now and progress in the Dalles might need a bit more time.

[Voidus]

If I count the MEE members who have had multiple posts I've probably got upwards of twenty, if I count all the MEE members then I just have very very many, if I can't count the MEE at all then probably somewhere in the low-mid teens.

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

Iconoclast would be the churchy political guy alternately posting links to church websites and criticizing Obama.

Later on he deletes his account, and emerges later ranting about the government, linking to anarchist sites and asking if anyone wants to sell him a copy of The Anarchist's Cookbook.

I actually own that Book. Very fascinating stuff in it.

[Voidus]

I actually own that Book. Very fascinating stuff in it.

I did when I was in High School because I wanted to be a rebel

Then I found out it had little to nothing to do with actual anarchism, it's all about hacking phones and blowing stuff up and how to extract hallucinogens from banana peels.

[Blackhoof]

I did when I was in High School because I wanted to be a rebel

Then I found out it had little to nothing to do with actual anarchism, it's all about hacking phones and blowing stuff up and how to extract hallucinogens from banana peels.

 

but isn't that what anarchism is all about?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

but isn't that what anarchism is all about?

I once saw a picture of a wall where someone had painted SPREAD ANARCHY. Beneath that, in a different color, were the words DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!

It makes me giggle.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Red is the only one who replies to every single Nighthound post. With emoticons.

"Hello, Red. My name is Autumn, and I'm here to counsel you against your will."

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

So Edge, I was wondering: Does Jack's turn-to-smoke power allow him to pass through solid objects like walls, or just avoid being hit by projectiles? 

[Edgedancer he/him]

So Edge, I was wondering: Does Jack's turn-to-smoke power allow him to pass through solid objects like walls, or just avoid being hit by projectiles? 

It doesn't allow him to phase through full on solid objects but he can move through cracks and just about anything real smoke could get through.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

It doesn't allow him to phase through full on solid objects but he can move through cracks and just about anything real smoke could get through.

 

Good to know, since Autumn is definitely going to play around with the powers she's gifted.  

[Edgedancer he/him]

Good to know, since Autumn is definitely going to play around with the powers she's gifted.

Does he need to waggle a finger at her and hold a speach about them not being a toy?

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Does he need to waggle a finger at her and hold a speach about them not being a toy?

 

Nah, if she's busy dropping paperweights through her arm after sticking her foot through the crack beneath the door and looks up to see him standing there, that'll be enough.  

[Edgedancer he/him]

Nah, if she's busy dropping paperweights through her arm after sticking her foot through the crack beneath the door and looks up to see him standing there, that'll be enough.

Ah, the good old eyebrow of shame.

[Kobold King he/him]

Here's a random question for y'all. Out of all the Oregon characters in the game thus far, which ones would be the most suited / qualified for running dictatorship as large and successful as Newcago?

 

I mean, anyone with enough power can subjugate the vanillas and become monarch, but as Steelheart proved it takes a lot of prudence and careful management to actually create a city state capable of weathering attacks from other Epics and providing flawlessly through the people.

 

Lucentia is the first person to come to mind for me, scary as that is, but there's not a lot of evidence that she provides for the people of Astoria with the same "care" that Steelheart provides. The average citizen of Newcago has electricity, running water, a halfway decent job, and readily available entertainment; unless I'm forgetting something, Lucentia supplies none of those amenities directly to her subjects, and she only has roughly ten thousand people under her compared to Steelheart's two million.

 

Rainmaker's probably a better candidate, but she relies too heavily on a mental Epic to keep the people serene and complacent while Steelheart could let his city's quality of life speak for itself. Not to mention the fact that life in Newcago was stable enough that many actively protested Steelheart's fall, while Rainmaker hasn't gone one week with her mental Epic gone without a ballerina rebel threatening to engulf the city in turmoil.

 

Vondra is a different kind of dictator, but he still counts as one. The Dalles tend to be a somewhat dismal military town, not unlike Newcago, and with Arsenal's aide he's managed to supply electricity and running water to the whole city. Like Steelheart he relies on surrounding farms to produce food, but it's been seen that he has trouble keeping the agriculture running well enough to feed the entire population equally. It's debatable whether his regime could conquer the logistics challenge of supplying a city as large as Newcago, and he certainly wouldn't be able to fend off even a fraction of the invaders Steelheart has been forced to deal with.

 

Doctor Funtimes would put everyone in fluffy bunny suits and gorge everyone on jelly bean pies. Rioters and tooth decay would be rampant within a week.

 

 

Anyone have anything they'd like to add?

[Jo and the Bush all/any]

I actually think Corpsemaker would be a pretty good ruler. He doesn't need everyone to fear him like Steelheatt does, so only kills to prove a point. With his cancellation power being well known, epics would be less likely to attack a city he ruled, making it safer. All he wants is to be the top. He wants to know that Humanity is united under him. So if the easiest way to do that is to provide for them, he'll take that route.

All my other charatcers either don't want to rule, or would actively cause anarchy.

[Edgedancer he/him]

Lucentia is the first person to come to mind for me, scary as that is, but there's not a lot of evidence that she provides for the people of Astoria with the same "care" that Steelheart provides. The average citizen of Newcago has electricity, running water, a halfway decent job, and readily available entertainment; unless I'm forgetting something, Lucentia supplies none of those amenities directly to her subjects, and she only has roughly ten thousand people under her compared to Steelheart's two million.

 

We haven't really been focusing on the vanillas in Astoria but restaurants, cafes and a distribution center for commodities have already shown up in the cities, so I can go ahead and spell it out, if you'd like me to.

Edited October 14, 2015 by Edgedancer

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

Here's a random question for y'all. Out of all the Oregon characters in the game thus far, which ones would be the most suited / qualified for running dictatorship as large and successful as Newcago?

 

I mean, anyone with enough power can subjugate the vanillas and become monarch, but as Steelheart proved it takes a lot of prudence and careful management to actually create a city state capable of weathering attacks from other Epics and providing flawlessly through the people.

 

Lucentia is the first person to come to mind for me, scary as that is, but there's not a lot of evidence that she provides for the people of Astoria with the same "care" that Steelheart provides. The average citizen of Newcago has electricity, running water, a halfway decent job, and readily available entertainment; unless I'm forgetting something, Lucentia supplies none of those amenities directly to her subjects, and she only has roughly ten thousand people under her compared to Steelheart's two million.

 

Rainmaker's probably a better candidate, but she relies too heavily on a mental Epic to keep the people serene and complacent while Steelheart could let his city's quality of life speak for itself. Not to mention the fact that life in Newcago was stable enough that many actively protested Steelheart's fall, while Rainmaker hasn't gone one week with her mental Epic gone without a ballerina rebel threatening to engulf the city in turmoil.

 

Vondra is a different kind of dictator, but he still counts as one. The Dalles tend to be a somewhat dismal military town, not unlike Newcago, and with Arsenal's aide he's managed to supply electricity and running water to the whole city. Like Steelheart he relies on surrounding farms to produce food, but it's been seen that he has trouble keeping the agriculture running well enough to feed the entire population equally. It's debatable whether his regime could conquer the logistics challenge of supplying a city as large as Newcago, and he certainly wouldn't be able to fend off even a fraction of the invaders Steelheart has been forced to deal with.

 

Doctor Funtimes would put everyone in fluffy bunny suits and gorge everyone on jelly bean pies. Rioters and tooth decay would be rampant within a week.

 

 

Anyone have anything they'd like to add?

 

Lightwards would have the fear thing down pat, what with the constant threat of wayward citizens having themselves or their loved ones dragged off and turned into mindless zombies. If he managed to deceive a large enough portion of the population about his zombie limit, he could keep them all subjugated quite well. However, he seems to think entertainment is for the weak, food is fuel and should be treated with the same respect and care as gasoline, and happiness is something you get when you kill random bystanders. His people would be extremely dissatisfied, and I can see a rumor about his zombie limit being substantially lower than claimed taking root and spreading until he was overthrown. 

 

I don't see Nighthound as the type to pursue a dictatorship, but if he did, I imagine him as a Roman emperor the likes of Caligula or Tiberius, caring more for the luxury his job provided than the responsibilities of it. He would be extremely feared, but also hated, and I can see a rebellion taking root quickly. 

[Edgedancer he/him]

I don't see Nighthound as the type to pursue a dictatorship, but if he did, I imagine him as a Roman emperor the likes of Caligula or Tiberius, caring more for the luxury his job provided than the responsibilities of it. He would be extremely feared, but also hated, and I can see a rebellion taking root quickly. 

You're pretty much right on that accord. He's smart enough to realize both what a dictatorship would need and that it would be too much of a bother for him.

[TwiLyghtSansSparkles she/her]

You're pretty much right on that accord. He's smart enough to realize both what a dictatorship would need and that it would be too much of a bother for him.

 

He strikes me more as the type to benefit from the rule of others, making himself indispensable (and even harder to get rid of) and soaking up the luxury without having to worry about the drawbacks of actually leading. 

[Edgedancer he/him]

He strikes me more as the type to benefit from the rule of others, making himself indispensable (and even harder to get rid of) and soaking up the luxury without having to worry about the drawbacks of actually leading. 

That probably would be his MO if it came down to it but given his relatioship with Lucentia he can go and soak up the luxury when he feels like it and the other times just prowl the country side.

[Kobold King he/him]

I actually think Corpsemaker would be a pretty good ruler. He doesn't need everyone to fear him like Steelheatt does, so only kills to prove a point. With his cancellation power being well known, epics would be less likely to attack a city he ruled, making it safer. All he wants is to be the top. He wants to know that Humanity is united under him. So if the easiest way to do that is to provide for them, he'll take that route.

All my other charatcers either don't want to rule, or would actively cause anarchy.

 

 

CorpseMaker was actually the Epic that got me thinking about this. Somehow I forgot to add him to my analysis, though. His part of Portland appears to be the most well-maintained quarter of the city, in some ways even better off than Thoughttown. (There's more indiscriminate murder of vanillas under CorpseMaker and the Trifecta, but Newcago proved that people will flock to a well-supplied city even with those kinds of atrocities rampant.)

 

 

We haven't really been focusing on the vanillas in Astoria but restaurants, cafes and a distribution center for commodities have already shown up in the cities, so I can go ahead and spell it out, if you'd like me to.

 

 

I got the impression that the restaurants and the cafes were specifically stocked for the Epics and might not be indicative of the people's resources... but then, who am I to argue with the city's chief worldbuilder?

 

Does she supply power or running water to the citizens?

[Voidus]

Soulcaster could pretty easily control enough people and Epics to get the required resources but he'd have little to no inclination in doing so, he's already set up fine where he is so he wouldn't bother trying to expand really.
PP probably wouldn't do a terrible job, he's usually not too homicidal, he's smart and is used to self-sustaining and knows what would be required from that, he'd have Epic-tech created from any Epics he defeated so the cities security would grow pretty strong as long as someone like Obliteration didn't hit them up straight away and Saccharine would be around to make sure no female Epics tried to seduce him for power Problem is that 1 day in three he'd wake up as a sociopath and is only going to get more unstable as time goes on so I guess he's out too

But of course I must point out that Metronome the Great would have absolutely no problems at all running a city. Plus the trains would all be on time. Or else.